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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 00:24 GMT
#141
On October 29 2010 09:22 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 09:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 29 2010 09:13 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I think if it came down to it I would vote for Pandain. Bumatlarge is mafia at least 3 out of every 4 games. He's just as likely to be mafia as you, DrH.

the past is the past!


people don't forget :>

You gotta admit the mods always have fascinations with keeping the usual suspects on the mafia side. I wouldn't be surprised if either of you turned red.

i wouldn't be surprised if anyone turned red since we're all equally likely to be red
RIP Aaliyah
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 29 2010 00:27 GMT
#142
On October 29 2010 09:16 LunarDestiny wrote:
I am indecisive between bumatlarge and Pandain.

As of now, my opinion of these two are:
bumatlarge
Kind of experienced
Claimed he has a way of proving his innocence
Ran and voted himself as mayor 1:22 after the game started. Either he is a blue role or a mafia who wish to steal mayor without much discussing with his teammates.

Pandain

Experienced
Demonstrated good plays in mafia games

EVERYONE IS A BLUE ROLE(except for reds)

I think I will go with Pandain as I don't know too much about bumatlarge as he was killed early and too lazy to read previous games. So far, I like Pandain's playstyle.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 29 2010 00:28 GMT
#143
DoctorHelvetica voting for Bumatlarge did give out some information about their alignment.

If DoctorHelvetica is Town, then Bumatlarge is Town or Mafia
If DoctorHelvetica is Mafia, then Bumatlarge is Mafia
If Bumatlarge is Town, then DoctorHelvetica is Town
If Bumatlarge is Mafia, then DoctorHelvetica can be Town or Mafia
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 29 2010 00:28 GMT
#144
On October 29 2010 09:13 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 08:44 orgolove wrote:
If I am voted the town mayor, I will setup a new spreadsheet. It should be much easier to maintain since it's 40 people.

This is enough for me to keep from voting for you. >_<. That damn spreadsheet caused quite a bit of trouble last game...


Yeah, because it revealed you as the mafia huh. -_-



On October 29 2010 09:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

orgolove is bad and shouldn't be mayor either



Mhmm. I think I had about 70% hit rate of weeding out the reds, with my only mistakes coming from people who acted real scummy that game. I'd return it to you - mistakenly killing 1 out of the 3 remaining mafia and heavily favoring the vampire's victory? -_- pretty "bad" as a host I'd say.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 29 2010 00:30 GMT
#145
Orgolove, I don't think you can stand scrutiny as a mayor, that is why I am not voting for you.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 29 2010 00:30 GMT
#146
On October 29 2010 09:28 LunarDestiny wrote:
DoctorHelvetica voting for Bumatlarge did give out some information about their alignment.

If DoctorHelvetica is Town, then Bumatlarge is Town or Mafia
If DoctorHelvetica is Mafia, then Bumatlarge is Mafia
If Bumatlarge is Town, then DoctorHelvetica is Town
If Bumatlarge is Mafia, then DoctorHelvetica can be Town or Mafia


So in other words, we won't really know anything.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 00:35:20
October 29 2010 00:34 GMT
#147
On October 29 2010 09:28 orgolove wrote:
I'd return it to you - mistakenly killing 1 out of the 3 remaining mafia and heavily favoring the vampire's victory? -_- pretty "bad" as a host I'd say.

Please none of this. It's fine to point out different behavior from different games, but supposed bias in terms of game hosting is off limits and not relevant here. I'd hate to see this derail the game.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 29 2010 00:34 GMT
#148
On October 29 2010 09:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 09:22 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On October 29 2010 09:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 29 2010 09:13 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I think if it came down to it I would vote for Pandain. Bumatlarge is mafia at least 3 out of every 4 games. He's just as likely to be mafia as you, DrH.

the past is the past!


people don't forget :>

You gotta admit the mods always have fascinations with keeping the usual suspects on the mafia side. I wouldn't be surprised if either of you turned red.

i wouldn't be surprised if anyone turned red since we're all equally likely to be red


All wifom. Speculation on what the host did, and how he chose stuff. Theres even a likely chance he just RNG'd all the roles, meaning every discussion we have about this is leading us away from real discussion. For all intents and purposes, there is a 9/39 chance he is mafia.

In addition, I think we can rule out the possibility of a third party based on this.

On October 29 2010 09:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 09:14 annul wrote:
"This is an open setup. Roles will not be disclosed. There may or may not be a third party active in the game. The basic setup however will be 19 town-aligned players against 6 mafia players."


theres more than 25 players now

do you want to update this "basic setup" count?

ps where was it announced that there are to be no PMs in this game?

Thanks for pointing that out. Player amount updated: It is 30 town-aligned players versus 9 mafia-aligned players. As for the PM thing, it is in the OP.


Mafia aligned, not just anti town or w/e. does this mean something, or is this just a general term?


On October 29 2010 09:28 LunarDestiny wrote:
DoctorHelvetica voting for Bumatlarge did give out some information about their alignment.

If DoctorHelvetica is Town, then Bumatlarge is Town or Mafia
If DoctorHelvetica is Mafia, then Bumatlarge is Mafia
If Bumatlarge is Town, then DoctorHelvetica is Town
If Bumatlarge is Mafia, then DoctorHelvetica can be Town or Mafia


Don't fall into this trap. Townies easily make mistakes all the time, and mafia routinely bus people if they feel like it. Really the only time something like this would have a serious effect on the player's role is if
1. He was fervently supporting him
2. He cast a deciding vote on them
Even then, it could still be a townie.

He just voted for him, that's all he's done.

(Vote for Pandain. Cool, calm, and collected. Sponsered by Chill.)
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 29 2010 00:34 GMT
#149
Well, the information is important if one of them dies and their roles revealed or when a detective checks their alignments (throwing out the possibility of being a Godfather of course).
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 29 2010 00:35 GMT
#150
All right -_- my bad about that.


Anyway, I'm highly suspicious of bumatlarge immediately voting for himself so soon after the game started, and DrH also quickly bandwagoning for him.

초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 00:36 GMT
#151
On October 29 2010 09:28 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 09:13 Aeres wrote:
On October 29 2010 08:44 orgolove wrote:
If I am voted the town mayor, I will setup a new spreadsheet. It should be much easier to maintain since it's 40 people.

This is enough for me to keep from voting for you. >_<. That damn spreadsheet caused quite a bit of trouble last game...


Yeah, because it revealed you as the mafia huh. -_-



Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 09:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

orgolove is bad and shouldn't be mayor either



Mhmm. I think I had about 70% hit rate of weeding out the reds, with my only mistakes coming from people who acted real scummy that game. I'd return it to you - mistakenly killing 1 out of the 3 remaining mafia and heavily favoring the vampire's victory? -_- pretty "bad" as a host I'd say.


ok host a game with 61 people and make no mistakes. seeing as your spreadsheet was rifled with errors from day 1 maybe you shouldn't criticize me so much
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 00:37 GMT
#152
On October 29 2010 09:35 orgolove wrote:
All right -_- my bad about that.


Anyway, I'm highly suspicious of bumatlarge immediately voting for himself so soon after the game started, and DrH also quickly bandwagoning for him.



>bandwagoning

no i'm voting for him because he is currently the best/most experienced player running

who should I vote for instead? the worst player running? the most mediocre player running? the one with the coolest name?
RIP Aaliyah
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 29 2010 00:37 GMT
#153
my opinion on who should get to be major:
if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day
in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day.
Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3....

Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#154
I don't agree with the idea that the first supporting vote doesn't mean anything. If someone accumulates just a few votes, a bandwagon will start. The mafia would not want to help starting a bandwagon where a blue role becomes the mayor.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#155
Remember that people who actively try to be voted mayor are somewhat more likely to be mafia... mafia would love to get into a position where they are generally assumed to be more town-aligned.
SUNSFANNED
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#156
On October 29 2010 09:37 NB wrote:
my opinion on who should get to be major:
if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day
in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day.
Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3....

Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one.

no

mayor has bodyguards, the bodyguards must first be killed before the mayor can die at night. lynching the mayor because he didn't die isn't the right way to go about it

typically you don't vote for a new mayor and he only chooses the first lynch and after that his only power is his votes are worth 3-5 votes
RIP Aaliyah
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 00:39 GMT
#157
On October 29 2010 09:37 NB wrote:
my opinion on who should get to be major:
if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day
in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day.
Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3....

Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one.


I'm pretty sure mafia can't kill mayor until the bodygaurds are dead. However, the mayor can be lynched.
Whaaaa?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 00:39 GMT
#158
On October 29 2010 09:38 LunarDestiny wrote:
I don't agree with the idea that the first supporting vote doesn't mean anything. If someone accumulates just a few votes, a bandwagon will start. The mafia would not want to help starting a bandwagon where a blue role becomes the mayor.

This is true. It's kinda hard to interpret day 1 votes without more information gained later in the game or without really analysing posting behavior well. Right now there isn't much to say but you did well pointing out the alignment probabilities if either myself or bumatlarge die.
RIP Aaliyah
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 29 2010 00:39 GMT
#159
I have voted for myself, but please note that it's a placeholder. It will be changed upon me deciding one candidate is likely not scum, or if I think they're all scum, it won't change.

But I wanted it on the books, because it's World Series season, and I've almost forgotten to vote day 1 several times in the past
SUNSFANNED
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 29 2010 00:45 GMT
#160
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Roles

I suggest sifting through that and if you are not sure how to make use of yours, search about what you can do. No role is useless! Fairly safe to say we have doctor(s), vet(s), DT(s) and vigi(s). And I think it's roughly 15%(?) of players are mafia in a standard game. Mafia should have a bunch of complimentary roles considering every towny has some special ability.
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