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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 30 2010 23:41 GMT
#1041
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.

i asked the GM... he said mayor get to lynch 1 person day1, from day2 on its voting
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 30 2010 23:42 GMT
#1042
On October 31 2010 08:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When Orgolove died this is how I felt immediately.

Fishball is more than likely a town player.

Mafia bandwagoners are likely the ones that switched their votes from Fishball to me, knowing that his role was very powerful as mayor and that other townies were already attacking me doing their work for them.

But part of me feels very uncomfortable about it. I'm not going to drop out of the election. I do think my voters should seriously reconsider voting for Fishball.

Just wondering, have you given any thought to this situation?


On October 31 2010 08:27 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:22 Fishball wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
also the mafia just voted for me

On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica


Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote.


If this is true (Artanis please confirm), then you should stop and think.

Why does the Mafia want me to be Mayor instead of the others? Why not Fishball? (2nd closest candidate) What do they have up their sleeves?
You should rally your votes over to me imo.

It's possible that the scum voter in question wasn't aware that his alignment would be revealed upon voting, and simply thought that taking the confirmed election winner as a vote would be the least suspicious action. This could really mean nothing, especially since this announcement seems to be confined to a single scum role; otherwise, we'd have nine [red] statements in that voting thread instead of the one. Given the isolation of the vote, it's not unreasonable to think that this event is a fluke that was not expected by the voter.

Of course, it's best not to rule out any possibilities. You're right in that the Doc needs to evaluate why the Mafia would vote for him, but perhaps shifting votes to you is a bit rash. Not saying I'm against you being Mayor, but we shouldn't be hasty over something we don't yet understand.

It seems kinda defeatist to willingly cede votes to another when you've all but clinched the election. I can't really think of any way that Mafia could manipulate the Mayor, short of having some crazy-ass "remote-control" role that allows the user to choose the night action the target does. That possibility is unlikely anyway, so I don't feel it warrants surrendering your lead.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 30 2010 23:46 GMT
#1043
On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

check this out.... it seems like 1 mafia has been spotted :D
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 30 2010 23:46 GMT
#1044
On October 31 2010 08:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.


SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.

I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.


There is some truth to this, I've been looking through the thread and I've noticed a little something relevant. I think a few of us have suggested lynching a candidate. If there was no mafia candidate, I'd imagine a few scum would say that would seem like a good idea. But it was basically you, fishball and myself who have hinted at doing this. No one commented on it. I think it's likely one of the candidates are scum. Though we only really mentioned it when we were looking like we were gaining soe ground in the race. Kill Pandain I say :D
Together but separate, like oatmeal
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 30 2010 23:47 GMT
#1045
On October 31 2010 08:46 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

check this out.... it seems like 1 mafia has been spotted :D

I think it's more like someone has the role of negating a vote
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SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
October 30 2010 23:47 GMT
#1046
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

This isn't insane, this is stupid -_-
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 30 2010 23:47 GMT
#1047
On October 31 2010 08:46 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.


SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.

I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.


There is some truth to this, I've been looking through the thread and I've noticed a little something relevant. I think a few of us have suggested lynching a candidate. If there was no mafia candidate, I'd imagine a few scum would say that would seem like a good idea. But it was basically you, fishball and myself who have hinted at doing this. No one commented on it. I think it's likely one of the candidates are scum. Though we only really mentioned it when we were looking like we were gaining soe ground in the race. Kill Pandain I say :D

Not the panda again... =(

In all seriousness, you make a good point. It's not as solid a clue as I would prefer, but it's something, and we don't have much time to make a decision anyway.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 30 2010 23:48 GMT
#1048
On October 31 2010 08:41 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.

i asked the GM... he said mayor get to lynch 1 person day1, from day2 on its voting

Yeah I know but Doc said that he wanted to hear from the town about who they thought was a good target.
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 30 2010 23:48 GMT
#1049
btw guys

On October 31 2010 07:59 infinitestory wrote:
WHAT THE-

things I note: #1 the circle DEFINITELY exists
#2 Artanis is very much capable of lying in the role PM
#3 fuck.


any thoughts? Read artanis' orgolove-modkill post carefully: he notes that even thought the role PM states a 10% chance of killing the target, he reveals that it's actually a 0% chance.
Translator:3
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 30 2010 23:49 GMT
#1050
On October 31 2010 08:46 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

check this out.... it seems like 1 mafia has been spotted :D


wait... so would this person not have to vote, would their vote not count, or if it came own to it, would it not influence the winner?
Together but separate, like oatmeal
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:49 GMT
#1051
On October 31 2010 08:42 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When Orgolove died this is how I felt immediately.

Fishball is more than likely a town player.

Mafia bandwagoners are likely the ones that switched their votes from Fishball to me, knowing that his role was very powerful as mayor and that other townies were already attacking me doing their work for them.

But part of me feels very uncomfortable about it. I'm not going to drop out of the election. I do think my voters should seriously reconsider voting for Fishball.

Just wondering, have you given any thought to this situation?


Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:27 Aeres wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:22 Fishball wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
also the mafia just voted for me

On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica


Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote.


If this is true (Artanis please confirm), then you should stop and think.

Why does the Mafia want me to be Mayor instead of the others? Why not Fishball? (2nd closest candidate) What do they have up their sleeves?
You should rally your votes over to me imo.

It's possible that the scum voter in question wasn't aware that his alignment would be revealed upon voting, and simply thought that taking the confirmed election winner as a vote would be the least suspicious action. This could really mean nothing, especially since this announcement seems to be confined to a single scum role; otherwise, we'd have nine [red] statements in that voting thread instead of the one. Given the isolation of the vote, it's not unreasonable to think that this event is a fluke that was not expected by the voter.

Of course, it's best not to rule out any possibilities. You're right in that the Doc needs to evaluate why the Mafia would vote for him, but perhaps shifting votes to you is a bit rash. Not saying I'm against you being Mayor, but we shouldn't be hasty over something we don't yet understand.

It seems kinda defeatist to willingly cede votes to another when you've all but clinched the election. I can't really think of any way that Mafia could manipulate the Mayor, short of having some crazy-ass "remote-control" role that allows the user to choose the night action the target does. That possibility is unlikely anyway, so I don't feel it warrants surrendering your lead.


I am considering the situation you just brought up and considering this booger thing there might be something to it.

I'm not conceding to Fishball, I'm recognizing his legitimacy as a candidate. I feel people should really evaluate their vote and make a decision.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:50 GMT
#1052
On October 31 2010 08:46 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.


SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.

I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.


There is some truth to this, I've been looking through the thread and I've noticed a little something relevant. I think a few of us have suggested lynching a candidate. If there was no mafia candidate, I'd imagine a few scum would say that would seem like a good idea. But it was basically you, fishball and myself who have hinted at doing this. No one commented on it. I think it's likely one of the candidates are scum. Though we only really mentioned it when we were looking like we were gaining soe ground in the race. Kill Pandain I say :D

Pandain is my second choice for now but I'm not sure since he claims to have an uber important role. But how important can it be if it's less important than mine that is mostly important on its ability to confirm itself?

I have a weird feeling about Nemesis. his vote is for pandain but iirc he supported me mostly in this thread. correct me if I'm wrong maybe I'm thinking about someone else.

Also if the boogerthrower knows the identity of the mafia voter somehow, come out and claim. You'll be medic protected 100%.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:51 GMT
#1053
On October 31 2010 08:48 infinitestory wrote:
btw guys

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 07:59 infinitestory wrote:
WHAT THE-

things I note: #1 the circle DEFINITELY exists
#2 Artanis is very much capable of lying in the role PM
#3 fuck.


any thoughts? Read artanis' orgolove-modkill post carefully: he notes that even thought the role PM states a 10% chance of killing the target, he reveals that it's actually a 0% chance.

this puts us all under equal suspicion of insanity though does it not?
RIP Aaliyah
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 30 2010 23:51 GMT
#1054
On October 31 2010 08:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:48 infinitestory wrote:
btw guys

On October 31 2010 07:59 infinitestory wrote:
WHAT THE-

things I note: #1 the circle DEFINITELY exists
#2 Artanis is very much capable of lying in the role PM
#3 fuck.


any thoughts? Read artanis' orgolove-modkill post carefully: he notes that even thought the role PM states a 10% chance of killing the target, he reveals that it's actually a 0% chance.

this puts us all under equal suspicion of insanity though does it not?

yeah :/ I guess

this is really INSANE
Translator:3
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 30 2010 23:53 GMT
#1055
LOL THE BOOGER THROWER
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 30 2010 23:56 GMT
#1056
So, we got one more hour of the extension to go, and none of the modkill-able people have voted or even posted. -.- Cool stuff.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 31 2010 00:01 GMT
#1057
On October 31 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:46 bumatlarge wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.


SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.

I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.


There is some truth to this, I've been looking through the thread and I've noticed a little something relevant. I think a few of us have suggested lynching a candidate. If there was no mafia candidate, I'd imagine a few scum would say that would seem like a good idea. But it was basically you, fishball and myself who have hinted at doing this. No one commented on it. I think it's likely one of the candidates are scum. Though we only really mentioned it when we were looking like we were gaining soe ground in the race. Kill Pandain I say :D

Pandain is my second choice for now but I'm not sure since he claims to have an uber important role. But how important can it be if it's less important than mine that is mostly important on its ability to confirm itself?

I have a weird feeling about Nemesis. his vote is for pandain but iirc he supported me mostly in this thread. correct me if I'm wrong maybe I'm thinking about someone else.

Also if the boogerthrower knows the identity of the mafia voter somehow, come out and claim. You'll be medic protected 100%.


I don't understand why I'm under suspicion except for a couple facts:
1.Like 5 people voted me without a "sufficient" explanation.
2.I'm one of the running canidates.

Obviously the second one is the most convincing one, as I severely doubt that mafia could just sit back and let town take the election. So that leaves Dr. H(to be confirmed), Fishball, Bumatlarge, and Me.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 31 2010 00:06 GMT
#1058
On October 31 2010 08:48 infinitestory wrote:
btw guys

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 07:59 infinitestory wrote:
WHAT THE-

things I note: #1 the circle DEFINITELY exists
#2 Artanis is very much capable of lying in the role PM
#3 fuck.


any thoughts? Read artanis' orgolove-modkill post carefully: he notes that even thought the role PM states a 10% chance of killing the target, he reveals that it's actually a 0% chance.


I wouldn't call it lying, I would call it misleading. But I do believe that more than just orgo's role could have hidden components to it.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 31 2010 00:09 GMT
#1059
On October 31 2010 09:01 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:46 bumatlarge wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.


SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.

I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.


There is some truth to this, I've been looking through the thread and I've noticed a little something relevant. I think a few of us have suggested lynching a candidate. If there was no mafia candidate, I'd imagine a few scum would say that would seem like a good idea. But it was basically you, fishball and myself who have hinted at doing this. No one commented on it. I think it's likely one of the candidates are scum. Though we only really mentioned it when we were looking like we were gaining soe ground in the race. Kill Pandain I say :D

Pandain is my second choice for now but I'm not sure since he claims to have an uber important role. But how important can it be if it's less important than mine that is mostly important on its ability to confirm itself?

I have a weird feeling about Nemesis. his vote is for pandain but iirc he supported me mostly in this thread. correct me if I'm wrong maybe I'm thinking about someone else.

Also if the boogerthrower knows the identity of the mafia voter somehow, come out and claim. You'll be medic protected 100%.


I don't understand why I'm under suspicion except for a couple facts:
1.Like 5 people voted me without a "sufficient" explanation.
2.I'm one of the running canidates.

Obviously the second one is the most convincing one, as I severely doubt that mafia could just sit back and let town take the election. So that leaves Dr. H(to be confirmed), Fishball, Bumatlarge, and Me.


The fact that people voted for you without sufficient explanation is exactly why you are under suspicion. What reason would they have to vote for you at all? There were plenty of candidates that started running (myself and ghrur to name a couple off the top of my head) that got no votes. Why would they choose you without any good reason to?
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 31 2010 00:10 GMT
#1060
LOL THE BOOGER.
well, would it be that someone has a nosepicking related profile? is he even mafia?

also, i am not the elder guys. Is it even confirmed if HE is the mafia either? ~_~
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