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On October 31 2010 08:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:18 Pandain wrote:
Alright, I decided Dr. H would be a better mayor than me. I did somewhat get caught up in my own ego and emotion and realized during the Rally to restore Sanity and/or Fear that, if he can really confirm himself to be 100% town, that I would trust him above myself.
As for that mafia vote, I think it's just a ploy to make people disbelieve him. This is what really stuck with me, why would they do that when they know he would already win? I think it's just a poor/desperate play.
Don't let me down Dr. H., Not a desperate play. Why would mafia put their 1 useless vote behind their own candidate. The only sensible choice it to put it on the largest bandwagon in this case, especially if they can twist it to make me look bad. I find it odd you're trying to play down your candidacy now when it's pretty clear I've won the election at this point. Why bother?
Idk...
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Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.
I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.
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Just talked to Artanis about godfather mechanics. There is not necessarily a godfather in this game.
If the godfather does exist, he can make up ANY role. He does not have to choose a role that exists. For instance he could choose "butter" or "fhtagn".
I feel like the Godfather may not exist. I feel it is likely that there are are insane cops in this game and considering the mayoral power has been reduced (so that rolechecks still work), it seems that maybe information roles would be weakened to balance this out? This is pretty much just speculation, but its something to think about.
Artanis can confirm this. If the Godfather exists (which he may not) he can choose any made up role. Artanis and LSB are the ONLY people who know the names of the roles in the game.
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On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.
I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.
But what if he is scum and he recruits innocents to try and get information? Such PM recruiting role might exist, but does not necessarily mean the role is Town aligned.
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On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.
I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.
That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.
Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted?
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On October 31 2010 08:22 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:also the mafia just voted for me On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote. If this is true (Artanis please confirm), then you should stop and think. Why does the Mafia want me to be Mayor instead of the others? Why not Fishball? (2nd closest candidate) What do they have up their sleeves? You should rally your votes over to me imo.
It's possible that the scum voter in question wasn't aware that his alignment would be revealed upon voting, and simply thought that taking the confirmed election winner as a vote would be the least suspicious action. This could really mean nothing, especially since this announcement seems to be confined to a single scum role; otherwise, we'd have nine [red] statements in that voting thread instead of the one. Given the isolation of the vote, it's not unreasonable to think that this event is a fluke that was not expected by the voter.
Of course, it's best not to rule out any possibilities. You're right in that the Doc needs to evaluate why the Mafia would vote for him, but perhaps shifting votes to you is a bit rash. Not saying I'm against you being Mayor, but we shouldn't be hasty over something we don't yet understand.
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On October 31 2010 08:22 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:also the mafia just voted for me On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote. If this is true (Artanis please confirm)
It is true.
If the Godfather exists (which he may not) he can choose any made up role. Artanis and LSB are the ONLY people who know the names of the roles in the game.
I indeed said this to you, though I have to add Qatol and I believe Incognito know it as well.
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On October 31 2010 08:22 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:also the mafia just voted for me On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote. If this is true (Artanis please confirm), then you should stop and think. Why does the Mafia want me to be Mayor instead of the others? Why not Fishball? (2nd closest candidate) What do they have up their sleeves? You should rally your votes over to me imo.
I am seriously considering it. I wish I could talk to you in PM about it.
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@Fishballs: which is why I'm fine with a DT investigating bum. If no DT comes out and says bumatlarge is scum we can trust he's pro-town. This of course relies on every detective paying attention and following this plan.
Also as an innocent they should use their best judgment about what to reveal to a guy in PM land. You can still scumhunt without revealing your role.
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On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.
I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though. That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted?
How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0
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When Orgolove died this is how I felt immediately.
Fishball is more than likely a town player.
Mafia bandwagoners are likely the ones that switched their votes from Fishball to me, knowing that his role was very powerful as mayor and that other townies were already attacking me doing their work for them.
But part of me feels very uncomfortable about it. I'm not going to drop out of the election. I do think my voters should seriously reconsider voting for Fishball.
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On October 31 2010 08:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.
I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though. That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted? How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0
If they are given the power to PM others in that circle, they would obviously need to know who is in that circle. It's possible that Bumatlarge conducts the actiont hrough Artanis who also relays the members of the circle something like
"Bumatlarge has brought you into x circle you can now pm
player x
player y
player z"
that would seem sensible to me. I'd like bum to respond about this.
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On October 31 2010 08:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:28 Ace wrote:On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.
I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though. That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted? How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0 If they are given the power to PM others in that circle, they would obviously need to know who is in that circle. It's possible that Bumatlarge conducts the actiont hrough Artanis who also relays the members of the circle something like "Bumatlarge has brought you into x circle you can now pm player x player y player z" that would seem sensible to me. I'd like bum to respond about this.
Ohhhh ok we're looking at it in different ways. I thought Bum was just a Mason, you look at it more like he's the leader of a PM circle ala Fishball. My mistake.
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We can have Bum "add" me to his circle
I can confirm if his power exists, and I'm already out in the open.
Then have DT's check us.
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Investigate me all the way, but i suggest if we have a PD to make sure i dont start spreading AIDS everywhere.
My power lets me have a permanent mason relationship with someone the rest of the game. They dont know who else I add each day, and they cannot PM anyone but me. So if im red, i can distort everything to hell. But if I start spreading misinformation, I'd like to think that the people I choose would be smart enough to catch it. And even if M-rus works that it immediately contracts to the person who visits, and then contracts to the person who visits them, I cannot contract it, because I can do it at the start of each day, so people who protect and investigate me are under no danger unless I am plagued. If I am immune, I cannot contract it when I add people, so I feel like a worthy candidate of having a PD vaccinate me.
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On October 31 2010 08:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When Orgolove died this is how I felt immediately.
Fishball is more than likely a town player.
Mafia bandwagoners are likely the ones that switched their votes from Fishball to me, knowing that his role was very powerful as mayor and that other townies were already attacking me doing their work for them.
But part of me feels very uncomfortable about it. I'm not going to drop out of the election. I do think my voters should seriously reconsider voting for Fishball.
On October 30 2010 04:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
sorry i can't make up my mind artanis
##Unelect Fishball
##Elect DoctorHelvetica
explain?
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On October 31 2010 08:32 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 08:28 Ace wrote:On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.
I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though. That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted? How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0 If they are given the power to PM others in that circle, they would obviously need to know who is in that circle. It's possible that Bumatlarge conducts the actiont hrough Artanis who also relays the members of the circle something like "Bumatlarge has brought you into x circle you can now pm player x player y player z" that would seem sensible to me. I'd like bum to respond about this. Ohhhh ok we're looking at it in different ways. I thought Bum was just a Mason, you look at it more like he's the leader of a PM circle ala Fishball. My mistake.
Yes...
That's what he claims his powers are, which I called BS.
- My circle is pre-made. There are 6 of us and there is no "leader".
- Bum's circle is non-existent at start, but he can add members to such circle and expand it. (His claim)
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On October 31 2010 08:35 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When Orgolove died this is how I felt immediately.
Fishball is more than likely a town player.
Mafia bandwagoners are likely the ones that switched their votes from Fishball to me, knowing that his role was very powerful as mayor and that other townies were already attacking me doing their work for them.
But part of me feels very uncomfortable about it. I'm not going to drop out of the election. I do think my voters should seriously reconsider voting for Fishball. Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 04:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
sorry i can't make up my mind artanis
##Unelect Fishball
##Elect DoctorHelvetica explain?
because that was when i decided to run
I'm look more specifically at later votes in this case. mafia will spread their votes around, determine where the town bandwagon is going, then jump accordingly
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Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.
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On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.
SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.
I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.
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