• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:02
CET 07:02
KST 15:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released List of top players active on ShieldBattery Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Playlenda
Playlendapro
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9240 users

Insane Mafia - Page 52

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 50 51 52 53 54 223 Next
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 30 2010 23:23 GMT
#1021
On October 31 2010 08:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:18 Pandain wrote:
Alright, I decided Dr. H would be a better mayor than me. I did somewhat get caught up in my own ego and emotion and realized during the Rally to restore Sanity and/or Fear that, if he can really confirm himself to be 100% town, that I would trust him above myself.

As for that mafia vote, I think it's just a ploy to make people disbelieve him. This is what really stuck with me, why would they do that when they know he would already win? I think it's just a poor/desperate play.

Don't let me down Dr. H.,


Not a desperate play. Why would mafia put their 1 useless vote behind their own candidate. The only sensible choice it to put it on the largest bandwagon in this case, especially if they can twist it to make me look bad.

I find it odd you're trying to play down your candidacy now when it's pretty clear I've won the election at this point. Why bother?


Idk...
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 30 2010 23:24 GMT
#1022
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.

I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:25 GMT
#1023
Just talked to Artanis about godfather mechanics. There is not necessarily a godfather in this game.

If the godfather does exist, he can make up ANY role. He does not have to choose a role that exists. For instance he could choose "butter" or "fhtagn".

I feel like the Godfather may not exist. I feel it is likely that there are are insane cops in this game and considering the mayoral power has been reduced (so that rolechecks still work), it seems that maybe information roles would be weakened to balance this out? This is pretty much just speculation, but its something to think about.

Artanis can confirm this. If the Godfather exists (which he may not) he can choose any made up role. Artanis and LSB are the ONLY people who know the names of the roles in the game.
RIP Aaliyah
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 30 2010 23:25 GMT
#1024
On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.

I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.


But what if he is scum and he recruits innocents to try and get information? Such PM recruiting role might exist, but does not necessarily mean the role is Town aligned.
靈魂交響曲
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:26 GMT
#1025
On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.

I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.


That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.

Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted?
RIP Aaliyah
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 30 2010 23:27 GMT
#1026
On October 31 2010 08:22 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
also the mafia just voted for me

On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica


Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote.


If this is true (Artanis please confirm), then you should stop and think.

Why does the Mafia want me to be Mayor instead of the others? Why not Fishball? (2nd closest candidate) What do they have up their sleeves?
You should rally your votes over to me imo.

It's possible that the scum voter in question wasn't aware that his alignment would be revealed upon voting, and simply thought that taking the confirmed election winner as a vote would be the least suspicious action. This could really mean nothing, especially since this announcement seems to be confined to a single scum role; otherwise, we'd have nine [red] statements in that voting thread instead of the one. Given the isolation of the vote, it's not unreasonable to think that this event is a fluke that was not expected by the voter.

Of course, it's best not to rule out any possibilities. You're right in that the Doc needs to evaluate why the Mafia would vote for him, but perhaps shifting votes to you is a bit rash. Not saying I'm against you being Mayor, but we shouldn't be hasty over something we don't yet understand.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 30 2010 23:27 GMT
#1027
On October 31 2010 08:22 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
also the mafia just voted for me

On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica


Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote.


If this is true (Artanis please confirm)

It is true.

If the Godfather exists (which he may not) he can choose any made up role. Artanis and LSB are the ONLY people who know the names of the roles in the game.

I indeed said this to you, though I have to add Qatol and I believe Incognito know it as well.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:27 GMT
#1028
On October 31 2010 08:22 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
also the mafia just voted for me

On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica


Artanis confirmed to me this is a real vote.


If this is true (Artanis please confirm), then you should stop and think.

Why does the Mafia want me to be Mayor instead of the others? Why not Fishball? (2nd closest candidate) What do they have up their sleeves?
You should rally your votes over to me imo.

I am seriously considering it. I wish I could talk to you in PM about it.
RIP Aaliyah
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 30 2010 23:27 GMT
#1029
@Fishballs: which is why I'm fine with a DT investigating bum. If no DT comes out and says bumatlarge is scum we can trust he's pro-town. This of course relies on every detective paying attention and following this plan.

Also as an innocent they should use their best judgment about what to reveal to a guy in PM land. You can still scumhunt without revealing your role.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 30 2010 23:28 GMT
#1030
On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.

I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.


That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.

Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted?


How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:29 GMT
#1031
When Orgolove died this is how I felt immediately.

Fishball is more than likely a town player.

Mafia bandwagoners are likely the ones that switched their votes from Fishball to me, knowing that his role was very powerful as mayor and that other townies were already attacking me doing their work for them.

But part of me feels very uncomfortable about it. I'm not going to drop out of the election. I do think my voters should seriously reconsider voting for Fishball.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:30 GMT
#1032
On October 31 2010 08:28 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.

I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.


That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.

Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted?


How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0


If they are given the power to PM others in that circle, they would obviously need to know who is in that circle. It's possible that Bumatlarge conducts the actiont hrough Artanis who also relays the members of the circle something like

"Bumatlarge has brought you into x circle you can now pm
player x
player y
player z"

that would seem sensible to me. I'd like bum to respond about this.
RIP Aaliyah
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 30 2010 23:32 GMT
#1033
On October 31 2010 08:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:28 Ace wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.

I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.


That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.

Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted?


How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0


If they are given the power to PM others in that circle, they would obviously need to know who is in that circle. It's possible that Bumatlarge conducts the actiont hrough Artanis who also relays the members of the circle something like

"Bumatlarge has brought you into x circle you can now pm
player x
player y
player z"

that would seem sensible to me. I'd like bum to respond about this.



Ohhhh ok we're looking at it in different ways. I thought Bum was just a Mason, you look at it more like he's the leader of a PM circle ala Fishball. My mistake.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 30 2010 23:33 GMT
#1034
We can have Bum "add" me to his circle
I can confirm if his power exists, and I'm already out in the open.
Then have DT's check us.
靈魂交響曲
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 30 2010 23:34 GMT
#1035
Investigate me all the way, but i suggest if we have a PD to make sure i dont start spreading AIDS everywhere.

My power lets me have a permanent mason relationship with someone the rest of the game. They dont know who else I add each day, and they cannot PM anyone but me. So if im red, i can distort everything to hell. But if I start spreading misinformation, I'd like to think that the people I choose would be smart enough to catch it. And even if M-rus works that it immediately contracts to the person who visits, and then contracts to the person who visits them, I cannot contract it, because I can do it at the start of each day, so people who protect and investigate me are under no danger unless I am plagued. If I am immune, I cannot contract it when I add people, so I feel like a worthy candidate of having a PD vaccinate me.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 30 2010 23:35 GMT
#1036
On October 31 2010 08:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When Orgolove died this is how I felt immediately.

Fishball is more than likely a town player.

Mafia bandwagoners are likely the ones that switched their votes from Fishball to me, knowing that his role was very powerful as mayor and that other townies were already attacking me doing their work for them.

But part of me feels very uncomfortable about it. I'm not going to drop out of the election. I do think my voters should seriously reconsider voting for Fishball.


On October 30 2010 04:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
sorry i can't make up my mind artanis

##Unelect Fishball
##Elect DoctorHelvetica


explain?
Translator:3
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 30 2010 23:35 GMT
#1037
On October 31 2010 08:32 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:28 Ace wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:24 Ace wrote:
Why would bumatlarge reveal who is in his circle to other people? All he has to do is coordinate information. If he recruits a Scum into his circle then all they'll know is that bumatlarge recruited them - not the identity of any other person in the circle.

I'm fine with a Detective investigating bum though.


That's not necessarily the case. Why would you assume that person wouldn't know who else was in the circle.

Bum, does your power give them to PM you or PM you and the list of people you have already converted?


How could they know if bum doesn't tell them? o.0


If they are given the power to PM others in that circle, they would obviously need to know who is in that circle. It's possible that Bumatlarge conducts the actiont hrough Artanis who also relays the members of the circle something like

"Bumatlarge has brought you into x circle you can now pm
player x
player y
player z"

that would seem sensible to me. I'd like bum to respond about this.



Ohhhh ok we're looking at it in different ways. I thought Bum was just a Mason, you look at it more like he's the leader of a PM circle ala Fishball. My mistake.


Yes...

That's what he claims his powers are, which I called BS.
- My circle is pre-made. There are 6 of us and there is no "leader".
- Bum's circle is non-existent at start, but he can add members to such circle and expand it. (His claim)
靈魂交響曲
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:36 GMT
#1038
On October 31 2010 08:35 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When Orgolove died this is how I felt immediately.

Fishball is more than likely a town player.

Mafia bandwagoners are likely the ones that switched their votes from Fishball to me, knowing that his role was very powerful as mayor and that other townies were already attacking me doing their work for them.

But part of me feels very uncomfortable about it. I'm not going to drop out of the election. I do think my voters should seriously reconsider voting for Fishball.


Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 04:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
sorry i can't make up my mind artanis

##Unelect Fishball
##Elect DoctorHelvetica


explain?


because that was when i decided to run

I'm look more specifically at later votes in this case. mafia will spread their votes around, determine where the town bandwagon is going, then jump accordingly
RIP Aaliyah
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
October 30 2010 23:37 GMT
#1039
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 23:39 GMT
#1040
On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.


SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.

I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.
RIP Aaliyah
Prev 1 50 51 52 53 54 223 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
ISSL: Premier - Quarterfinals
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PiG Daily
06:20
Best Games of SC
MaxPax vs Clem
SHIN vs TBD
herO vs TBD
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech31
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3438
GuemChi 1752
Horang2 569
ZergMaN 72
Noble 26
Aegong 14
Icarus 9
yabsab 7
Force[name] 6
LuMiX 6
League of Legends
JimRising 691
Counter-Strike
taco 370
Other Games
summit1g11629
XaKoH 460
NeuroSwarm85
ViBE75
RuFF_SC240
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick493
BasetradeTV129
Counter-Strike
PGL88
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2303
League of Legends
• Rush1145
• Lourlo716
• Stunt357
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
16h 58m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 5h
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
OSC
1d 16h
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
PiGosaur Cup
1d 18h
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
IPSL
5 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-06
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.