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On October 31 2010 06:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
My only defense is that the last time I was a scum mayor I specifically ordered the mafia to create a "close win" and have me win by 1 or 2 votes.
Doubtlessly there are mafia in this bandwagon though.
I wasn't actually directing that at you, it was just a comment about certain voters, but since you said "My only defense", I'll have to bite, right?
It was a close win last time, so you ordered Mafia to create a "non-close win" this time to create a diversion! It all makes sense now doesn't it  ?
Let the merry-go-round spin on!
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On October 31 2010 06:39 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
My only defense is that the last time I was a scum mayor I specifically ordered the mafia to create a "close win" and have me win by 1 or 2 votes.
Doubtlessly there are mafia in this bandwagon though.
I wasn't actually directing that at you, it was just a comment about certain voters, but since you said "My only defense", I'll have to bite, right? It was a close win last time, so you ordered Mafia to create a "non-close win" this time to create a diversion! It all makes sense now doesn't it ? Let the merry-go-round spin on!
Ha, fair enough.
Typically when bandwagons are talked about in mayoral elections I'm seeing it as a soft accusation toward the candidate so I wanted to at least throw that out there. even if you're not accusing me of anything, it is information the mafia can twist and turn into an accusation on me.
I guess being defensive looks bad but I don't think there is any real logic behind a scum mayor creating a landslide win for himself particularly when his post-election strategy would then involve outting the scumteam that voted him in, making the pattern even more clear in the first place.
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On October 31 2010 06:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Glasse you are playing this game extremely different than Haunted Mafia in which you are a town aligned blue role. In that game you were very helpful and honest about what you were doing. Now you are antagonistic, refuse to explain anything about what you say, and have taken the mind boggling position that town shouldn't pressure inactives.
What is up with that?
It was my first game, i can't try something different? I was planning on being the same but that's no fun for me :3.
Unfortunately it looks like you are going to win the election... which could mean that if you think i'm red you will lynch me(I think thats how it works). This is also not fun.
I think playing the random/stupid/troll player is fun.
Btw, changing the way I play is a way to make you and others unable to analyse my playstyle like you are trying to do right now.
I'm pretty sure through my whole "shitting the thread up" part i've been honest, probably not as helpful though, but not having clues is part of that, if you go read my posts back there its mostly about clues  I loved to analyse profiles and stuff.
Also i did not say town should not pressure inactive, you just don't get what i'm trying to explain :3
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On October 31 2010 06:38 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:28 infinitestory wrote:On October 31 2010 06:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 04:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1.5 hours to go
Doctorhelvetica: 12
Doctorhelvetica
LunarDestiny
Aeres
jcarlsoniv
Node
SiNiquity
Meapak_Ziphh
Veldril
CubEdIn
Amber[LighT]
Kenpachi
Elder vote
Bumatlarge: 6
Bumatlarge
Ace
Lexpar
Divinek
deconduo
infundibulum
Fishball: 5
youngminii
orgolove
Fishball
Misder
KtheZ
Pandain: 3
Nemesis
Coagulation
Pandain
Brownbear: 1
Brownbear
DCLXVI: 1
DCLXVI
kingjames01: 1
kingjames01
annul: 1
annul
kitaman27: 1
kitaman27
Glasse: 1
Glasse
infinitestory: 1
infinitestory
ghrur: 1
ghrur
NB: 1
NB
Not voted yet: 5
Hyperbola, lol1221, QuickStriker, ShmotZ, Masq hey yo what the fuck is an elder vote guys bet it's a special role which gets 1 extra vote (since there are only 11 people voting for you) You must have miscounted. Including this "Elder" fellow, there are 12 votes for the Doc. So, maybe the role you're talking about has been nerfed for this game, or has some other power in conjunction with vote anonymity.
fuck
i assumed it meant that one person in the list gets an extra vote, which is listed as "Elder"
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On October 31 2010 06:43 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Glasse you are playing this game extremely different than Haunted Mafia in which you are a town aligned blue role. In that game you were very helpful and honest about what you were doing. Now you are antagonistic, refuse to explain anything about what you say, and have taken the mind boggling position that town shouldn't pressure inactives.
What is up with that? It was my first game, i can't try something different? I was planning on being the same but that's no fun for me :3. Unfortunately it looks like you are going to win the election... which could mean that if you think i'm red you will lynch me(I think thats how it works). This is also not fun. I think playing the random/stupid/troll player is fun. Btw, changing the way I play is a way to make you and others unable to analyse my playstyle like you are trying to do right now. I'm pretty sure through my whole "shitting the thread up" part i've been honest, probably not as helpful though, but not having clues is part of that, if you go read my posts back there its mostly about clues I loved to analyse profiles and stuff. Also i did not say town should not pressure inactive, you just don't get what i'm trying to explain :3
I actually don't think you're red at all. I have an idea in my head about why you're playing the way you are and I actually feel quite safe about it. Although I don't like the spamming ;o
I had you on my list of possible reds for a while when you first started posting erratically but after further examination I'm less inclined to believe that is the case.
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On October 31 2010 06:43 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:38 Aeres wrote:On October 31 2010 06:28 infinitestory wrote:On October 31 2010 06:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 04:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1.5 hours to go
Doctorhelvetica: 12
Doctorhelvetica
LunarDestiny
Aeres
jcarlsoniv
Node
SiNiquity
Meapak_Ziphh
Veldril
CubEdIn
Amber[LighT]
Kenpachi
Elder vote
Bumatlarge: 6
Bumatlarge
Ace
Lexpar
Divinek
deconduo
infundibulum
Fishball: 5
youngminii
orgolove
Fishball
Misder
KtheZ
Pandain: 3
Nemesis
Coagulation
Pandain
Brownbear: 1
Brownbear
DCLXVI: 1
DCLXVI
kingjames01: 1
kingjames01
annul: 1
annul
kitaman27: 1
kitaman27
Glasse: 1
Glasse
infinitestory: 1
infinitestory
ghrur: 1
ghrur
NB: 1
NB
Not voted yet: 5
Hyperbola, lol1221, QuickStriker, ShmotZ, Masq hey yo what the fuck is an elder vote guys bet it's a special role which gets 1 extra vote (since there are only 11 people voting for you) You must have miscounted. Including this "Elder" fellow, there are 12 votes for the Doc. So, maybe the role you're talking about has been nerfed for this game, or has some other power in conjunction with vote anonymity. fuck i assumed it meant that one person in the list gets an extra vote, which is listed as "Elder"
Perhaps, but if that was the case, it'd make more sense to separate the "Elder" part from the list of voters. As it is, it looks like Kenpachi is being identified as the Elder, and I don't think Artanis would want any confusion in the voting thread.
If I were Artanis and I had assigned an Elder role like the one you envisioned, Infinitestory, I would simply add in italics/bold next to the candidate / lynchee name "An Elder has voted for this person." It'd clear up any ambiguity that might be present.
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On October 31 2010 06:47 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:43 infinitestory wrote:On October 31 2010 06:38 Aeres wrote:On October 31 2010 06:28 infinitestory wrote:On October 31 2010 06:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 04:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1.5 hours to go
Doctorhelvetica: 12
Doctorhelvetica
LunarDestiny
Aeres
jcarlsoniv
Node
SiNiquity
Meapak_Ziphh
Veldril
CubEdIn
Amber[LighT]
Kenpachi
Elder vote
Bumatlarge: 6
Bumatlarge
Ace
Lexpar
Divinek
deconduo
infundibulum
Fishball: 5
youngminii
orgolove
Fishball
Misder
KtheZ
Pandain: 3
Nemesis
Coagulation
Pandain
Brownbear: 1
Brownbear
DCLXVI: 1
DCLXVI
kingjames01: 1
kingjames01
annul: 1
annul
kitaman27: 1
kitaman27
Glasse: 1
Glasse
infinitestory: 1
infinitestory
ghrur: 1
ghrur
NB: 1
NB
Not voted yet: 5
Hyperbola, lol1221, QuickStriker, ShmotZ, Masq hey yo what the fuck is an elder vote guys bet it's a special role which gets 1 extra vote (since there are only 11 people voting for you) You must have miscounted. Including this "Elder" fellow, there are 12 votes for the Doc. So, maybe the role you're talking about has been nerfed for this game, or has some other power in conjunction with vote anonymity. fuck i assumed it meant that one person in the list gets an extra vote, which is listed as "Elder" Perhaps, but if that was the case, it'd make more sense to separate the "Elder" part from the list of voters. As it is, it looks like Kenpachi is being identified as the Elder, and I don't think Artanis would want any confusion in the voting thread. If I were Artanis and I had assigned an Elder role like the one you envisioned, Infinitestory, I would simply add in italics/bold next to the candidate / lynchee name "An Elder has voted for this person." It'd clear up any ambiguity that might be present.
That makes sense, then. But if elder provides anonymity, can't we deduce the identity from looking at who hasn't voted for anyone but isn't on the "not yet voted" list?
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On October 31 2010 06:43 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:38 Aeres wrote:On October 31 2010 06:28 infinitestory wrote:On October 31 2010 06:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 04:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1.5 hours to go
Doctorhelvetica: 12
Doctorhelvetica
LunarDestiny
Aeres
jcarlsoniv
Node
SiNiquity
Meapak_Ziphh
Veldril
CubEdIn
Amber[LighT]
Kenpachi
Elder vote
Bumatlarge: 6
Bumatlarge
Ace
Lexpar
Divinek
deconduo
infundibulum
Fishball: 5
youngminii
orgolove
Fishball
Misder
KtheZ
Pandain: 3
Nemesis
Coagulation
Pandain
Brownbear: 1
Brownbear
DCLXVI: 1
DCLXVI
kingjames01: 1
kingjames01
annul: 1
annul
kitaman27: 1
kitaman27
Glasse: 1
Glasse
infinitestory: 1
infinitestory
ghrur: 1
ghrur
NB: 1
NB
Not voted yet: 5
Hyperbola, lol1221, QuickStriker, ShmotZ, Masq hey yo what the fuck is an elder vote guys bet it's a special role which gets 1 extra vote (since there are only 11 people voting for you) You must have miscounted. Including this "Elder" fellow, there are 12 votes for the Doc. So, maybe the role you're talking about has been nerfed for this game, or has some other power in conjunction with vote anonymity. fuck i assumed it meant that one person in the list gets an extra vote, which is listed as "Elder"
I was reading a bunch of roles on mafiascum wiki and i saw something interesting. The "elder" could be only able to vote on 1 target, but give 2 votes. which means one of the voters has 2 votes.
Now look at the first vote count where elder wasnt and the vote count where vote is. Now this could have been a PM he held off until now but it could also be someone that was just added and counted as 2
People added to his list that could have 2 votes :
SiNiquity
Meapak_Ziphh
Veldril
CubEdIn
Amber[LighT]
Kenpachi
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Since we're talking about lynch suspect now, I feel that youngminii and orgolove are pretty scummy.
I would also take a look at lurkers. Force them to come out by threating to lynch them as whatever you says go for this lynch.
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On October 31 2010 06:49 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:47 Aeres wrote:On October 31 2010 06:43 infinitestory wrote:On October 31 2010 06:38 Aeres wrote:On October 31 2010 06:28 infinitestory wrote:On October 31 2010 06:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 04:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1.5 hours to go
Doctorhelvetica: 12
Doctorhelvetica
LunarDestiny
Aeres
jcarlsoniv
Node
SiNiquity
Meapak_Ziphh
Veldril
CubEdIn
Amber[LighT]
Kenpachi
Elder vote
Bumatlarge: 6
Bumatlarge
Ace
Lexpar
Divinek
deconduo
infundibulum
Fishball: 5
youngminii
orgolove
Fishball
Misder
KtheZ
Pandain: 3
Nemesis
Coagulation
Pandain
Brownbear: 1
Brownbear
DCLXVI: 1
DCLXVI
kingjames01: 1
kingjames01
annul: 1
annul
kitaman27: 1
kitaman27
Glasse: 1
Glasse
infinitestory: 1
infinitestory
ghrur: 1
ghrur
NB: 1
NB
Not voted yet: 5
Hyperbola, lol1221, QuickStriker, ShmotZ, Masq hey yo what the fuck is an elder vote guys bet it's a special role which gets 1 extra vote (since there are only 11 people voting for you) You must have miscounted. Including this "Elder" fellow, there are 12 votes for the Doc. So, maybe the role you're talking about has been nerfed for this game, or has some other power in conjunction with vote anonymity. fuck i assumed it meant that one person in the list gets an extra vote, which is listed as "Elder" Perhaps, but if that was the case, it'd make more sense to separate the "Elder" part from the list of voters. As it is, it looks like Kenpachi is being identified as the Elder, and I don't think Artanis would want any confusion in the voting thread. If I were Artanis and I had assigned an Elder role like the one you envisioned, Infinitestory, I would simply add in italics/bold next to the candidate / lynchee name "An Elder has voted for this person." It'd clear up any ambiguity that might be present. That makes sense, then. But if elder provides anonymity, can't we deduce the identity from looking at who hasn't voted for anyone but isn't on the "not yet voted" list?
I imagine Artanis thought of this, and simply added the Elder's name to the list of voters for the Doc. But if that's the case, then the Elder indeed has the power to wield two votes.
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On October 31 2010 06:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:29 Fishball wrote:
We've had similar roles in previous games before. Basically a role that gets an extra vote, and would show up anonymously as "elder".
To be quite bold, I don't like the band wagon you're getting. There are quite a few players that have voted for you, I consider "suspicious" in my books. My only defense is that the last time I was a scum mayor I specifically ordered the mafia to create a "close win" and have me win by 1 or 2 votes.
That's pretty meta. And wasn't there a certain Dr who said we should stop using meta in arguments?
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On October 31 2010 06:52 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 06:29 Fishball wrote:
We've had similar roles in previous games before. Basically a role that gets an extra vote, and would show up anonymously as "elder".
To be quite bold, I don't like the band wagon you're getting. There are quite a few players that have voted for you, I consider "suspicious" in my books. My only defense is that the last time I was a scum mayor I specifically ordered the mafia to create a "close win" and have me win by 1 or 2 votes. That's pretty meta. And wasn't there a certain Dr who said we should stop using meta in arguments?
I'm ok with using meta when it's about the game itself and not something as far fetched as interpretations of the games storyline.
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On October 31 2010 06:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:52 infinitestory wrote:On October 31 2010 06:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 06:29 Fishball wrote:
We've had similar roles in previous games before. Basically a role that gets an extra vote, and would show up anonymously as "elder".
To be quite bold, I don't like the band wagon you're getting. There are quite a few players that have voted for you, I consider "suspicious" in my books. My only defense is that the last time I was a scum mayor I specifically ordered the mafia to create a "close win" and have me win by 1 or 2 votes. That's pretty meta. And wasn't there a certain Dr who said we should stop using meta in arguments? I'm ok with using meta when it's about the game itself and not something as far fetched as interpretations of the games storyline.
OK, that's fine then.
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Wow looks like things finally calmed down.
So it seems that you will probably win this election? Who will you be lynching?
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*yawn*
Well I guess we can finally get this show on the road.
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On October 31 2010 06:55 Nemesis wrote:
Wow looks like things finally calmed down.
So it seems that you will probably win this election? Who will you be lynching?
I'll give my list of considerations and we can talk about it as town:
orgolove
NB
youngminii
kitaman27
coagulation
that's about in order of how much I suspect them of being possible scum.
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On October 31 2010 06:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:55 Nemesis wrote:
Wow looks like things finally calmed down.
So it seems that you will probably win this election? Who will you be lynching? I'll give my list of considerations and we can talk about it as town: orgolove NB youngminii kitaman27 coagulation that's about in order of how much I suspect them of being possible scum.
I like how none of the players who voted for you are on that list
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On October 31 2010 06:57 Ace wrote:
*yawn*
Well I guess we can finally get this show on the road.
Not quite. Artanis is extending the vote deadline by three hours as a one-time deal, so that potential modkills can be avoided. We still have some waiting to do before the hammer falls (or rather, the rope).
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On October 31 2010 07:00 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 06:55 Nemesis wrote:
Wow looks like things finally calmed down.
So it seems that you will probably win this election? Who will you be lynching? I'll give my list of considerations and we can talk about it as town: orgolove NB youngminii kitaman27 coagulation that's about in order of how much I suspect them of being possible scum. I like how none of the players who voted for you are on that list
None of the players who voted me have I felt may be scum from their posting history.
Kenpachi, Hyperbola, Veldril, and I believe Cubedin have been inactive in this thread to my distaste. Veldril and CubEdIn were both pretty inactive in Haunted Mafia where they were both town. I'm slightly more worried about Hyperbola and Kenpachi in this case.
However, I'd rather lynch an active mafia suspect for now than an inactive one.
I previously suspected Meapak_Ziphh but I don't really have a feeling for him on my radar now.
To be clear, I'm talking about lynch considerations and not people I suspect who may be mafia, so I'm not including inactives who have voted for me. I am sure that between kenpachi, hyperbola, veldril, cubedin, and whatever other inactives voted for mere there are 1 or 2 mafia hiding in the bandwagon.
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On October 31 2010 07:00 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 06:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 31 2010 06:55 Nemesis wrote:
Wow looks like things finally calmed down.
So it seems that you will probably win this election? Who will you be lynching? I'll give my list of considerations and we can talk about it as town: orgolove NB youngminii kitaman27 coagulation that's about in order of how much I suspect them of being possible scum. I like how none of the players who voted for you are on that list
DrH, is there a particular reason you suspect youngminii and not Kenpachi nor SiNiquity?
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