Insane Mafia - Page 30

On November 04 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

He said 50/50

I don't trust DC's roleclaim. I'm ok with lynching Pandain as long as we're sure Coagulation will die the next day. he could be mafia trying to get us to waste 2 days of lynches though.

On November 04 2010 12:16 Nemesis wrote:

Except if Coag flips red, infinitestory is pretty much confirmed.

Looks like, town is set on lynching me if Pandain turns up red. I'll see if I can change your minds if he does indeed turn up red.

On November 04 2010 12:24 Ace wrote:


How is picking Pandain weak when you yourself pointed out he was scummy? Bum and I BOTH agreed he was fishy. Several other players also said Pandain was scummy. So please do explain how me saying Pandain is scummy means I'm picking on a weak player. If he's playing like obvious Scum then guess what - he's probably Scum. You seem to be trying to save face with every lynch by saying "well if we're wrong, look at this person!". You pegged Pandain as scum also so how does that make me Scummy and you innocent?

It doesn't, I want to lynch Pandain. I want a vig to hit him tonight. He is my #2 suspect, I've never gone back on this

Also that's a WIFOM argument. If any experienced player is going to be protected it would probably be me and the circle never ends. There have also been many games where I've actually lived till Day 3 and was innocent. So what's your reasoning for that?

Secondly why would I roleclaim to bum? Everyone who knows how I play KNOWS I don't roleclaim unless I have to. I also do not share information unless people have to know. So why would I role claim to bum? I never knew if he was innocent, and you can also see in my private messages I said I don't know if he's a Scum Mason. So once again, explain WHY would I roleclaim to an unconfirmed townie? Bum was not the surest blue in the game so stop lying. The ONLY thing we knew about him was that he claimed Mason.

I felt he was the surest blue in the game. I just feel a bit suspicious of you, I'm not lying. Who was the surest blue in the game? IMO bumatlarge was, that's how I percieved it. That's not a lie.

Lastly, there isn't a wagon or pressure on me so where does bussing come into play? Are you trying to undermine me in hopes of setting up a future lynch? Also explain how infinitestory is a better target if Pandain flips blue, when you just claimed we should lynch KtheZ if Pandain flips blue. No. I want to lynch Pandain. I feel like if Pandain wasn't the mafia behind the bandwagon attacks on me, then InfiniteStory was. At least he had the sense to back off when it was clear the arguments weren't working while Pandains tenacity is consistent with his previous games where he was a townie who was just really bad at scumhunting. I think Pandain is mafia and I certainly want him lynched. That hasn't changed.

You are being really wishy-washy. In fact it looks like you'd rather lynch any of us pushing Pandain's lynch as if you KNOW he's going to flip innocent. Pandain is my #2 choice, I want him vig killed or lynched. I haven't gone back on this, I'm just willing to consider the possibility that he isn't mafia. I'm a little bit nervous because I think we're at the point where making a mistake as a town will result in an inevitable defeat and I guess it's making me seem a little wishy-washy.

On November 04 2010 12:27 Ace wrote:
I bet Doc's next argument is "because you have a defiler icon, you must be Scum!"

On November 04 2010 12:24 DCLXVI wrote:
Well Doc, you guessed it. Coag was right, I am just trying to save him. Because any real mafia would go to that length to save a teammate who has given up like coag has...

And how does it waste lynches? YOu have already stated that you want to lynch pandain and you seem sure he is mafia, why can't you lynch him today and me tomorrow? I mean if I'm lying then you lynch 2 reds(panda/me) - then coag so 3 reds overall, if I am telling the truth you lynch a red(panda) and one other dies as well(coag) as another scummy player(not sure yet) and me. Seems like it is much better for the town that way, if we just do it your way(coag/panda) then you just get the same result as me lying except you don't know if Im red or blue

On November 04 2010 12:52 LunarDestiny wrote:

What other person could be mafia, the townie death is for DC dying.

On November 04 2010 12:55 Kenpachi wrote:
dw, my super powers are not booger related or 50% chance of killing myself..
and no it wouldnt lead to more scum because im fighting them

On November 04 2010 15:03 Coagulation wrote:
i noticed im on a couple shitlists also

On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,

I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.

Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola!

On October 29 2010 09:45 Hyperbola wrote:

An interesting strategy. You call me out on my magnificent speech and then proceed to say almost nothing yourself. Then you direct attention away from yourself and give the illusion of trying to help town by saying random things about the game. I don't think Cube was being serious when he posted that, but I however, was.
I am very adept at organization and strategic play. Although I may have not been in as many mafia games and tend to stay quiet, I can still manage a team and have done so in games I was mafia in. The same skills can apply to town if we are able to sort out who's who and create a legitimate town circle. Furthermore, I am very adept at sorting out what's what's legitimate and what's bullshit. Unless there are some specific roles which may overcome my keen eye, I can guarantee you that there will be NO leaks in the town circle if I am voted mayor.
As for the issue of whether I am mafia or not... you can be damn well sure that the first person to announce their candidacy for mayor as I did had better be really fucking good at defending themselves from clues if they're mafia. Other than that fact, I cannot guarantee anything. But that is what most elections are: a leap of faith.

On October 29 2010 10:24 Hyperbola wrote:
All this setback does is simply show that many things can technically be exploited in this game, with the influx of new abilities I believe a great strategy can be devised if the great minds of this game work together under one leader.
I am still running for mayor. A vote for Hyperbola is a vote for a brighter future for us all.

On October 29 2010 11:06 Hyperbola wrote:
What I am interested in is how forgetforeverine is going to factor into the game. Is it simply a role playing element and can a specific role can utilize it? Or is it just a way of having people "forget" about other mafia games... in which case we can't make arguments based on past actions.

On October 30 2010 09:40 Hyperbola wrote:
It's really pointless for me to vote for myself at this point so I guess I'll vote for Pandain. The other two prime candidates are all discussing secret societies and whatnot, and even though I'm all for those types of roles, I believe the mayor should really be a figurehead for the whole town.
1. It would be really difficult, and not to mention disadvantageous, for the mayor to prove they are a free mason or something along those lines
2. The mayor keeps the rest of the town out of the loop (because there wouldn't be a way to transfer secret data) and therefore causes confusion which can lead to unwarranted bandwagoning.
3. If the mayor dies, how will the circle prove itself to town afterward? After losing all leadership, the town will flop and scum will have it's way with the remains.
And as for Pandain, I have seen his play style from the previous game and think he would make a good mayor. If he turns out to be mafia, and unless he has flawlessly acted out the role, people would notice and he'd be gone in a blink of an eye.

On November 01 2010 01:51 Hyperbola wrote:

Ok so these are the aspects of his role (if he's telling the truth):
1. avoid a lynch
2. no talking
So I'm thinking his role is the ability to leave town, turn invisible, or hide in the closet for a night. I don't know why he wouldn't role claim but, more importantly, this doesn't seem like a scum-favored role. Think about it: why would scum leave town? Is the mob getting too hot for him? This would seem almost detrimental because if someone has a valid case against him, he can't argue it and just delays the inevitable 1 turn. I think the role is intended to just dodge night actions and simply dodges lynches and forbids speaking as a side effect. So in short, I think youngminii is innocent to some extent... for now.

On November 01 2010 07:29 Hyperbola wrote:
Lexpar has successfully derailed the thread for like 3/4 of a page, lol. Not that we're really doing anything intense right now. Regarding youngminii, I don't think we really need to get to the bottom of the whole situation just yet as Coagulation stated. I think we should wait till day, analyze the day post and the deaths, and then resume "getting to the bottom of things". But as other people have said before me, role claiming is nothing but detrimental unless it's done right. Do not be like Aeres guys (no offense), his role claim was rash and could put him and others in danger.

On November 01 2010 09:54 Hyperbola wrote:
Ok let's not fish for the elder. Why do the mafia's work for them? If he want's to be known he'll say it in the thread.

Regarding Node: His role is really easy to fake. A mafia knows exactly who's going to die and he probably has a role that decided who to kill during the day or is just completely faking it. The reason I think this is because he explicitly asked for medic protection on night 1 and 3 people are now infected. I am assuming that Murrayitis starts off with only 1 host because otherwise it would take very little time to infect half of the town's population. I can't really prove anything right now but Node is now quite suspicious in my eyes.

On November 01 2010 09:56 Hyperbola wrote:

You do realize it would actually be a smart move for mafia to roleblock DrH? This can really flip either way at this point.

On November 02 2010 08:42 Hyperbola wrote:
I honestly do not know who to vote for right now. Nothing seems solid. I'm gonna vote for someone random so I don't get modkilled.

On November 04 2010 08:41 Hyperbola wrote:

I don't think this is the case. Otherwise Glasse would have said something.
Anyone else thinks it's kinda weird that DCLXVI would have a "leave town role" like Aeres and potentially youngminii? Either that or Node is BSing us.