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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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Node
United States2159 Posts
In the meantime, I have predicted my own death. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Also Pandain say that Kenpachi is mafia. Like Coag after he was accused, Kenpachi already lost confidence to prove his innocence. Maybe you can give him some confidence by proving that he is not mafia. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On November 10 2010 14:42 Node wrote: I'll weigh in on stuff once I sort my thoughts out. In the meantime, I have predicted my own death. Such a baller prediction. Props to you. With 4 uncertain people. Tomorrow is GG. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On November 10 2010 14:42 LunarDestiny wrote: Triple post. Also Pandain say that Kenpachi is mafia. Like Coag after he was accused, Kenpachi already lost confidence to prove his innocence. Maybe you can give him some confidence by proving that he is not mafia. wat | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Kenpachi's confidence meter: On November 10 2010 10:35 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote Kenpachi Im fucking screwed over.. somehow, Pandain got me as Red even though im not so, ILL BELIEVE HIM BECAUSE HES SO ACCURATE AND VOTE MYSELF TO USE MY SPECIAL POWER.. + Show Spoiler + jk gg On November 10 2010 10:36 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote Pandain actually ive been given confidence On November 10 2010 12:15 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote Kenpachi Nope. no confidence here. Im red.. + Show Spoiler + from RAGING On November 10 2010 12:15 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote Kenpachi ~_~ | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On November 10 2010 14:50 LunarDestiny wrote: Kenpachi's confidence meter: You want me to give him confidence? *scratches head* | ||
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LunarDestiny
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On November 10 2010 14:53 LunarDestiny wrote: Look at other who is blue and was being lynched, they did a lot more to prove themselves. ? Who's other. Sorry for spamming a bit. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On November 10 2010 14:57 LunarDestiny wrote: The other lynched players except Ace since he is mafia. I don't remember any single one of them gave up so fast. Prob because, like coag, he knew he had got caught so just resorted to spamming the thread. 'night. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On November 10 2010 14:59 Pandain wrote: Prob because, like coag, he knew he had got caught so just resorted to spamming the thread. 'night. Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
No, Coag gave up and started calling pandain mafia and spammed the thread until he died. Kenpachi put forth his argument, saw that no one wanted to even bother considering that Pandain was lying and stopped bothering. If you want 'proof' that someone's mafia, you aren't going to get it outside of someone being a DT, checking someone, then dying. Either that, or having a role and using it. Outside of that, there's really very little 'proof' someone can muster. Want a demonstration? 1) Pandain claims he checks alignments, he can't prove it. 2) Pandain claims Nemesis is blue, he can't prove it. 3) Pandain claims Kenpachi is red, he can't prove it. So what standard of information do you want to use here? Town can decide. Not you. You win the game if mafia Ace this lynch. Sorry for doubting you, but I typically don't trust players who have a win right in front of them who say they won't take it. On the plus side, Node finally arrived and told us who's dying, so I can go ahead and reveal that I'm the Junkie. I've got 2 night lives and once per game I get to pm the mods and tell them I have murrayitis. If i'm wrong, I die. If i'm right, they give me drugs to cure the disease. Being a terrible drug addict, they don't actually work on me, but they give me a night hit. I've breadcrumbed this pretty much once per day, by throwing up huge mrus posts while no one else was talking about it. Now that Ace's role flipped as mrus spreader and given that he hates my face, I'm pretty sure I have mrus. So tonight I'll either die, or I'll get to hit someone. I fully expect both third party members to push me today because Lunar'll probably be afraid of my hit. Nemesis/Pandain is probably a given as well. To everyone else, specially you if you're not lying, Kenpachi, please read carefully. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On November 10 2010 15:01 L wrote: Like Coag? No, Coag gave up and started calling pandain mafia and spammed the thread until he died. Kenpachi put forth his argument, saw that no one wanted to even bother considering that Pandain was lying and stopped bothering. If you want 'proof' that someone's mafia, you aren't going to get it outside of someone being a DT, checking someone, then dying. Either that, or having a role and using it. Outside of that, there's really very little 'proof' someone can muster. Want a demonstration? 1) Pandain claims he checks alignments, he can't prove it. 2) Pandain claims Nemesis is blue, he can't prove it. 3) Pandain claims Kenpachi is red, he can't prove it. So what standard of information do you want to use here? Town can decide. Not you. You win the game if mafia Ace this lynch. Sorry for doubting you, but I typically don't trust players who have a win right in front of them who say they won't take it. On the plus side, Node finally arrived and told us who's dying, so I can go ahead and reveal that I'm the Junkie. I've got 2 night lives and once per game I get to pm the mods and tell them I have murrayitis. If i'm wrong, I die. If i'm right, they give me drugs to cure the disease. Being a terrible drug addict, they don't actually work on me, but they give me a night hit. I've breadcrumbed this pretty much once per day, by throwing up huge mrus posts while no one else was talking about it. Now that Ace's role flipped as mrus spreader and given that he hates my face, I'm pretty sure I have mrus. So tonight I'll either die, or I'll get to hit someone. I fully expect both third party members to push me today because Lunar'll probably be afraid of my hit. Nemesis/Pandain is probably a given as well. To everyone else, specially you if you're not lying, Kenpachi, please read carefully. First off, we are lynching Kenpachi because Pandain checked him to be red. My "Kenpachi lost his confidence" is not solid proof but that just how some mafia act when a dt checked them. Secondly if you are going with the fact that we shouldn't trust dt before they are confirmed, then a lot of mafia from other games would have gotten away. We should trust Pandain because our Insane (LSB confirm the "Insane" characteristic will make alignment flip flop) detective checked Pandain and got Mafia Trash Collector. Also following with Nemesis's argument, I propose to lynch you because of the following reasons: 1) You are one of the uncertain people. 2) As a very good mafia player yourself, you have not contributed any result to town. In other mafia games, you tend to take control of town at some point in game and will propose a very solid plan for town. You did not do that in this game. 3) I don't want the possibility that you are mafia and leading them with your experience. For most part, we should lynch you because you could be much more valuable as a mafia to the mafia than it is valuable as a town to the town. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
You accused me that I can also win with the mafia. I think we (everyone except L) are very certain that Pandain is telling the truth and that Kenpachi is mafia. After today's lynch, the mafia will have at most 2 members left. How can Glasse and I win with mafia when their victory condition is to have majority in town??? 2 mafia members+Glasse+me=4 Given the remaining 2 mafia members survive, mafia needs at most 3 players left. 4>3... Therefore glasse and I can't win with the mafia, and that is the absolute reason why Glasse and I have NO incentive to help mafia whatsoever. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On November 10 2010 15:33 LunarDestiny wrote: Triple post... You accused me that I can also win with the mafia. I think we (everyone except L) are very certain that Pandain is telling the truth and that Kenpachi is mafia. After today's lynch, the mafia will have at most 2 members left. How can Glasse and I win with mafia when their victory condition is to have majority in town??? 2 mafia members+Glasse+me=4 Given the remaining 2 mafia members survive, mafia needs at most 3 players left. 4>3... Therefore glasse and I can't win with the mafia, and that is the absolute reason why Glasse and I have NO incentive to help mafia whatsoever. Uh, 3 mafia members + secret mafia vote + 2 third party votes = 6 town votes. Even if we lynch 1 mafia and 1 town, we'll have 2 mafia 5 town and 2 third party. If a mafia member without the secret vote is hit, that gives you, again, 2+2+1 = 5 which means you win automatically. Town needs to hit TWO mafia today or we lose, and you seem to be skirting around the issue. I could have sat back and said "lol Nemesis is grinding an Axe" and let it slide, avoiding the issue entirely, but its just not going to cut it because avoiding lynches doesn't benefit me if they hit other townies. You claim I should die because I'm fantastic at this game. Seriously? Hey, guess what, here's me trying to lead the town out of an instant loss scenario. Why haven't I been hit? Because we've had DTs claim in public repeatedly and mafia has focused their hits there. I could have fakeclaimed DT to get mafia to waste a hit on me, but after the entire Aeres situation which was exactly the same thing, I figured I might as well not. I''m going to get some sleep, but your bullshit about you having no incentive to help mafia is lucridious. You literally have a win in your hands if the town listens to you, because you'll be lynching one, but most probably two, blues today enroute to a mathematical mafia victory tomorrow with you winning along side them. And what choice do you have? You're a serial killer, you have a kp. If you don't go along with the mafia plan, mafia's going to kill you tonight because leaving your kp up in the air when they have so few players is unacceptable. So not only are you lying about having no incentive; you have literally no other path to victory. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
I think that third party roles have already demonstrated that they are not on the mafia side right now by killing Ace. You are barking up the wrong tree. Trying to threaten them to work for you is not gonna work out. And since you keep trying to somehow paint me and Pandain red, I will actually give proof that I am blue just to make you feel even more helpless. Which also confirms Pandain's role for the second time if people are actually too stupid to believe his argument. NODE, confirm that I have visited you NIGHT 3, and since you already know my role, and that my role is blue | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On November 11 2010 00:36 Nemesis wrote: So everyone's helping mafia now except you L, right? I think that third party roles have already demonstrated that they are not on the mafia side right now by killing Ace. You are barking up the wrong tree. Trying to threaten them to work for you is not gonna work out. And since you keep trying to somehow paint me and Pandain red, I will actually give proof that I am blue just to make you feel even more helpless. Which also confirms Pandain's role for the second time if people are actually too stupid to believe his argument. NODE, confirm that I have visited you NIGHT 3, and since you already know my role, and that my role is blue Everyone's helping mafia? No. Mafia's helpin' mafia. I don't think they've demonstrated anything. The third party is actually in a better position than I noted above because they also have a kp. Even if we lynch 1 mafia/1 blue, they/mafia win tonight. The only way to assuredly stop us from losing is to either believe that they won't try to win, or we kill them tonight. I'm not threatening them either. They revealed their win condition earlier, and now mafia knows they have a veto over the third party winning. Them hitting Ace and Decuondo was fantastic for us and brought us back into the game, but why would they bother claiming here unless they just didn't want to get lynched/hit today or tonight? As for you, I'll wait until node gives details regarding what your visit did, because if this is another "my sticky confirms me" claim, its not going to be worth much. If you actually are blue, the only course of action we can take today is to hit 2 reds or to get rid of the 3rd party. Any other action loses us the game. | ||
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