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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
October 16 2010 00:37 GMT
#1761
Meh, this game goes on too fast... or maybe I just don't get on this and commit enough time on it. either way, I don't have much time to actually go through 30 unread pages and decide and give my feedback like I usually do. Fuck life, midterms, 20 hour internship, school, girl that's leading to nowhere, and life...

Anyone here want to give me or others like me a brief summary in one post of what happened the last 30 pages??

I know that if I don't have the time, then I shouldn't be playing but as much as I'm considering to quit... I still sorta wanna play.... blah.
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
October 16 2010 00:39 GMT
#1762
don't worry man... i feel the same way in regards to the game =\ but im sure it will pick up soon enough once enough people are dead =)
KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 16 2010 00:39 GMT
#1763
instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 16 2010 00:40 GMT
#1764
On October 16 2010 09:39 KhrisKruel wrote:
instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched


edit by way of post.

I mean who you suspected from 30 pages ago. Not alot has changed since then.
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 16 2010 00:41 GMT
#1765
On October 16 2010 09:37 QuickStriker wrote:
Meh, this game goes on too fast... or maybe I just don't get on this and commit enough time on it. either way, I don't have much time to actually go through 30 unread pages and decide and give my feedback like I usually do. Fuck life, midterms, 20 hour internship, school, girl that's leading to nowhere, and life...

Anyone here want to give me or others like me a brief summary in one post of what happened the last 30 pages??

I know that if I don't have the time, then I shouldn't be playing but as much as I'm considering to quit... I still sorta wanna play.... blah.


EVeryone's voting Veldril.

I gave a concise explanation here.
here

also remember the clue.
Let's see....
that's about it.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 16 2010 00:42 GMT
#1766
On October 16 2010 09:20 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:04 Divinek wrote:
like are all of you so naive to think someone would openly protect a member of their own faction so blatantly?

it's TERRIBLE reasoning that almost never leads to a correct lynch. Who knows maybe we'll get lucky and lynch a mafia but the odds of veldril being vampire are sooo slim just based on how he acted about masq and the general consensus of everyone wagoning him so easily.

it's impossible for me to fingering anyone because you're all sheeping on this without looking at the grand scheme of things and instead trying LOOK for ways to paint him red -_-



Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.



Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:41 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:37 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.


I'm one of the people who stood by my vote for Masq since the beginning, and I noticed something, which may be a coincidence.

Everytime we zoned in on Masq, something happened to made ppl lose focus. First it was Veldril, then azo, and so on. All the while Masq is saying NOTHING, but voting.

And it's easy to go and defend Masq when there's way you'll be lynched before the end of day.

And I'm one of the people who stood by Masq from the beginning, maybe not as strong as you wanted him lynched but I never had my vote on him. When the Masq bandwagon started I didn't want to jump on because it happened out of nowhere and Masq didn't even make that many posts. Then the Veldril bandwagon started and I put my vote on him as a placeholder kind of thing.

Then Veldril makes a series of posts that are very, very questionable. Now I'm strongly against Veldril and I'm supporting Masq on the basis of his posting behaviour, not some silly clues that are unreliable at best. And no, it isn't easy to defend Masq even though I won't be lynched today. What's going to happen if he IS scum? I'll be put under suspicion or targeted by the other scum team since I'll be seen as 'Masq's ally'. Am I willing to get lynched for him? No, but I'm willing to bet that I'm right on this.



Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:43 youngminii wrote:
ebwop

by the last sentence i meant that i'm sure veldril's a better lynch candidate than masq


add to the fact that like 75% of this game are new players, so of course they could be prone to mistakes. What, do you think vampires would just let their bretheren fall without any attempt of saving them?


directly defending them like that is so god damn obvious when they are such a prime candidate for a lynch. ESPECIALLY in a game this size, gonna have to bus people once in a while. Even a newbie would realize trying to defend your red brother is so obvious when he flips it's going to kill you because townies dont think
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 16 2010 00:43 GMT
#1767
i dont think it's impossible for him to be red, unlikely, but i think it's way unlikely that he's vampire. But that's just based on my experience and how people react to these things lol
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
October 16 2010 00:44 GMT
#1768
On October 16 2010 09:40 KhrisKruel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:39 KhrisKruel wrote:
instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched


edit by way of post.

I mean who you suspected from 30 pages ago. Not alot has changed since then.

I stated this like 30 pages ago that I feel uneasy to that spreadsheet guy who always post with his spreadsheet and give information/evidence on others. It's just a feeling I have but in my opinion (assuming he didn't change thru the 30 pages), he's being way overly active to be just a townie and the fact that he's doing too much work makes me feel that he's doing it so no one can be suspicious of him ever....

But I could be wrong and he can really have so much free time like crazy and with REALLY good intention that most of us lazy folks won't do. Making a database of clues, posts, and everything instead of using that in real life professional jobs to earn 40k a year.
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 16 2010 00:44 GMT
#1769
On October 16 2010 09:42 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:20 Pandain wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:04 Divinek wrote:
like are all of you so naive to think someone would openly protect a member of their own faction so blatantly?

it's TERRIBLE reasoning that almost never leads to a correct lynch. Who knows maybe we'll get lucky and lynch a mafia but the odds of veldril being vampire are sooo slim just based on how he acted about masq and the general consensus of everyone wagoning him so easily.

it's impossible for me to fingering anyone because you're all sheeping on this without looking at the grand scheme of things and instead trying LOOK for ways to paint him red -_-



On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.



On October 13 2010 08:41 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:37 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.


I'm one of the people who stood by my vote for Masq since the beginning, and I noticed something, which may be a coincidence.

Everytime we zoned in on Masq, something happened to made ppl lose focus. First it was Veldril, then azo, and so on. All the while Masq is saying NOTHING, but voting.

And it's easy to go and defend Masq when there's way you'll be lynched before the end of day.

And I'm one of the people who stood by Masq from the beginning, maybe not as strong as you wanted him lynched but I never had my vote on him. When the Masq bandwagon started I didn't want to jump on because it happened out of nowhere and Masq didn't even make that many posts. Then the Veldril bandwagon started and I put my vote on him as a placeholder kind of thing.

Then Veldril makes a series of posts that are very, very questionable. Now I'm strongly against Veldril and I'm supporting Masq on the basis of his posting behaviour, not some silly clues that are unreliable at best. And no, it isn't easy to defend Masq even though I won't be lynched today. What's going to happen if he IS scum? I'll be put under suspicion or targeted by the other scum team since I'll be seen as 'Masq's ally'. Am I willing to get lynched for him? No, but I'm willing to bet that I'm right on this.



On October 13 2010 08:43 youngminii wrote:
ebwop

by the last sentence i meant that i'm sure veldril's a better lynch candidate than masq


add to the fact that like 75% of this game are new players, so of course they could be prone to mistakes. What, do you think vampires would just let their bretheren fall without any attempt of saving them?


directly defending them like that is so god damn obvious when they are such a prime candidate for a lynch. ESPECIALLY in a game this size, gonna have to bus people once in a while. Even a newbie would realize trying to defend your red brother is so obvious when he flips it's going to kill you because townies dont think


Actually Veldril constantly tried to shy away that connection.
here


On October 11 2010 15:40 Veldril wrote:
Oh and by Mafia/Vampire deflecting blame in the first point of my previous post is that if they are lucky, they could kill other side too.

For Mafia/Vampire, I think they don't care much about who dies in the first couple of days/nights as long as it's not on their side. Townie dies mean they have less choice to make in the next cycle and if they can force townie to vote to kill the other side, then that would make them even have more profit.

Oh and I don't say that Masq is surely not a killer. I just think we need to look further for other clues too before accusing him solely. But he's one of the suspects though.

(Maybe I need a ghost in the first night ).

jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
October 16 2010 00:51 GMT
#1770
On October 16 2010 09:44 QuickStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:40 KhrisKruel wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:39 KhrisKruel wrote:
instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched


edit by way of post.

I mean who you suspected from 30 pages ago. Not alot has changed since then.

I stated this like 30 pages ago that I feel uneasy to that spreadsheet guy who always post with his spreadsheet and give information/evidence on others. It's just a feeling I have but in my opinion (assuming he didn't change thru the 30 pages), he's being way overly active to be just a townie and the fact that he's doing too much work makes me feel that he's doing it so no one can be suspicious of him ever....

But I could be wrong and he can really have so much free time like crazy and with REALLY good intention that most of us lazy folks won't do. Making a database of clues, posts, and everything instead of using that in real life professional jobs to earn 40k a year.

haha, as soon as he stops being helpful we can point all the fingers we at him, but as long as he is "actually helping" then it doesn't matter what team he's on, when the game nears it's end, if hes red hes not going to be posting anything helpful for the town.

also i think we need to look at the clues, not how relevant it is, but we could use some clue discussion...

also as a bonus, we know veldril deserves to die, but who else is bad? the red's are entire teams, not just individuals, we need more than just one person, we should tie suspicious people together and what not.

also post history analysis is really good, i saw it in a past mafia game and it was like having maphacks
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 16 2010 00:58 GMT
#1771
On October 16 2010 09:20 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:04 Divinek wrote:
like are all of you so naive to think someone would openly protect a member of their own faction so blatantly?

it's TERRIBLE reasoning that almost never leads to a correct lynch. Who knows maybe we'll get lucky and lynch a mafia but the odds of veldril being vampire are sooo slim just based on how he acted about masq and the general consensus of everyone wagoning him so easily.

it's impossible for me to fingering anyone because you're all sheeping on this without looking at the grand scheme of things and instead trying LOOK for ways to paint him red -_-



Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.



Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:41 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:37 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.


I'm one of the people who stood by my vote for Masq since the beginning, and I noticed something, which may be a coincidence.

Everytime we zoned in on Masq, something happened to made ppl lose focus. First it was Veldril, then azo, and so on. All the while Masq is saying NOTHING, but voting.

And it's easy to go and defend Masq when there's way you'll be lynched before the end of day.

And I'm one of the people who stood by Masq from the beginning, maybe not as strong as you wanted him lynched but I never had my vote on him. When the Masq bandwagon started I didn't want to jump on because it happened out of nowhere and Masq didn't even make that many posts. Then the Veldril bandwagon started and I put my vote on him as a placeholder kind of thing.

Then Veldril makes a series of posts that are very, very questionable. Now I'm strongly against Veldril and I'm supporting Masq on the basis of his posting behaviour, not some silly clues that are unreliable at best. And no, it isn't easy to defend Masq even though I won't be lynched today. What's going to happen if he IS scum? I'll be put under suspicion or targeted by the other scum team since I'll be seen as 'Masq's ally'. Am I willing to get lynched for him? No, but I'm willing to bet that I'm right on this.



Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:43 youngminii wrote:
ebwop

by the last sentence i meant that i'm sure veldril's a better lynch candidate than masq


add to the fact that like 75% of this game are new players, so of course they could be prone to mistakes. What, do you think vampires would just let their bretheren fall without any attempt of saving them?


If you're playing scum properly, then yes, actually, this is a standard scum tactic (also known as bussing, or throwing someone under a bus). The fact that Veldril is new, and defended someone he logically shouldn't care for, makes it far more likely he made a newbie mistake than any other explanation.
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
October 16 2010 01:06 GMT
#1772
On October 16 2010 09:58 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:20 Pandain wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:04 Divinek wrote:
like are all of you so naive to think someone would openly protect a member of their own faction so blatantly?

it's TERRIBLE reasoning that almost never leads to a correct lynch. Who knows maybe we'll get lucky and lynch a mafia but the odds of veldril being vampire are sooo slim just based on how he acted about masq and the general consensus of everyone wagoning him so easily.

it's impossible for me to fingering anyone because you're all sheeping on this without looking at the grand scheme of things and instead trying LOOK for ways to paint him red -_-



On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.



On October 13 2010 08:41 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:37 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.


I'm one of the people who stood by my vote for Masq since the beginning, and I noticed something, which may be a coincidence.

Everytime we zoned in on Masq, something happened to made ppl lose focus. First it was Veldril, then azo, and so on. All the while Masq is saying NOTHING, but voting.

And it's easy to go and defend Masq when there's way you'll be lynched before the end of day.

And I'm one of the people who stood by Masq from the beginning, maybe not as strong as you wanted him lynched but I never had my vote on him. When the Masq bandwagon started I didn't want to jump on because it happened out of nowhere and Masq didn't even make that many posts. Then the Veldril bandwagon started and I put my vote on him as a placeholder kind of thing.

Then Veldril makes a series of posts that are very, very questionable. Now I'm strongly against Veldril and I'm supporting Masq on the basis of his posting behaviour, not some silly clues that are unreliable at best. And no, it isn't easy to defend Masq even though I won't be lynched today. What's going to happen if he IS scum? I'll be put under suspicion or targeted by the other scum team since I'll be seen as 'Masq's ally'. Am I willing to get lynched for him? No, but I'm willing to bet that I'm right on this.



On October 13 2010 08:43 youngminii wrote:
ebwop

by the last sentence i meant that i'm sure veldril's a better lynch candidate than masq


add to the fact that like 75% of this game are new players, so of course they could be prone to mistakes. What, do you think vampires would just let their bretheren fall without any attempt of saving them?


If you're playing scum properly, then yes, actually, this is a standard scum tactic (also known as bussing, or throwing someone under a bus). The fact that Veldril is new, and defended someone he logically shouldn't care for, makes it far more likely he made a newbie mistake than any other explanation.

too bad instead of politely declining to post meaningless squabble. He decided to clutter the thread and in general post garbage. If he was town, he wouldn't have done what he's done.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 16 2010 01:09 GMT
#1773
On October 16 2010 09:51 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:44 QuickStriker wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:40 KhrisKruel wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:39 KhrisKruel wrote:
instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched


edit by way of post.

I mean who you suspected from 30 pages ago. Not alot has changed since then.

I stated this like 30 pages ago that I feel uneasy to that spreadsheet guy who always post with his spreadsheet and give information/evidence on others. It's just a feeling I have but in my opinion (assuming he didn't change thru the 30 pages), he's being way overly active to be just a townie and the fact that he's doing too much work makes me feel that he's doing it so no one can be suspicious of him ever....

But I could be wrong and he can really have so much free time like crazy and with REALLY good intention that most of us lazy folks won't do. Making a database of clues, posts, and everything instead of using that in real life professional jobs to earn 40k a year.

haha, as soon as he stops being helpful we can point all the fingers we at him, but as long as he is "actually helping" then it doesn't matter what team he's on, when the game nears it's end, if hes red hes not going to be posting anything helpful for the town.

also i think we need to look at the clues, not how relevant it is, but we could use some clue discussion...

also as a bonus, we know veldril deserves to die, but who else is bad? the red's are entire teams, not just individuals, we need more than just one person, we should tie suspicious people together and what not.

also post history analysis is really good, i saw it in a past mafia game and it was like having maphacks

In case you didn't notice. I stopped doing that shit after I got the 10th PM harassing me about it.
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aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 16 2010 01:10 GMT
#1774
Doctor H, did you assign the roles or were they random?
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 16 2010 01:11 GMT
#1775
On October 16 2010 10:10 aztrorisk wrote:
Doctor H, did you assign the roles or were they random?

Roles were generated randomly.
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KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 16 2010 01:12 GMT
#1776
On October 16 2010 10:10 aztrorisk wrote:
Doctor H, did you assign the roles or were they random?


he's said multiple times that it was randomized
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
October 16 2010 01:16 GMT
#1777
On October 16 2010 10:09 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:51 jodogohoo wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:44 QuickStriker wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:40 KhrisKruel wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:39 KhrisKruel wrote:
instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched


edit by way of post.

I mean who you suspected from 30 pages ago. Not alot has changed since then.

I stated this like 30 pages ago that I feel uneasy to that spreadsheet guy who always post with his spreadsheet and give information/evidence on others. It's just a feeling I have but in my opinion (assuming he didn't change thru the 30 pages), he's being way overly active to be just a townie and the fact that he's doing too much work makes me feel that he's doing it so no one can be suspicious of him ever....

But I could be wrong and he can really have so much free time like crazy and with REALLY good intention that most of us lazy folks won't do. Making a database of clues, posts, and everything instead of using that in real life professional jobs to earn 40k a year.

haha, as soon as he stops being helpful we can point all the fingers we at him, but as long as he is "actually helping" then it doesn't matter what team he's on, when the game nears it's end, if hes red hes not going to be posting anything helpful for the town.

also i think we need to look at the clues, not how relevant it is, but we could use some clue discussion...

also as a bonus, we know veldril deserves to die, but who else is bad? the red's are entire teams, not just individuals, we need more than just one person, we should tie suspicious people together and what not.

also post history analysis is really good, i saw it in a past mafia game and it was like having maphacks

In case you didn't notice. I stopped doing that shit after I got the 10th PM harassing me about it.

lol then until a clue points us that your a blood thirsty killer, i'll have tea with you anyday =)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 16 2010 01:21 GMT
#1778
On October 16 2010 10:16 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 10:09 orgolove wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:51 jodogohoo wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:44 QuickStriker wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:40 KhrisKruel wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:39 KhrisKruel wrote:
instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched


edit by way of post.

I mean who you suspected from 30 pages ago. Not alot has changed since then.

I stated this like 30 pages ago that I feel uneasy to that spreadsheet guy who always post with his spreadsheet and give information/evidence on others. It's just a feeling I have but in my opinion (assuming he didn't change thru the 30 pages), he's being way overly active to be just a townie and the fact that he's doing too much work makes me feel that he's doing it so no one can be suspicious of him ever....

But I could be wrong and he can really have so much free time like crazy and with REALLY good intention that most of us lazy folks won't do. Making a database of clues, posts, and everything instead of using that in real life professional jobs to earn 40k a year.

haha, as soon as he stops being helpful we can point all the fingers we at him, but as long as he is "actually helping" then it doesn't matter what team he's on, when the game nears it's end, if hes red hes not going to be posting anything helpful for the town.

also i think we need to look at the clues, not how relevant it is, but we could use some clue discussion...

also as a bonus, we know veldril deserves to die, but who else is bad? the red's are entire teams, not just individuals, we need more than just one person, we should tie suspicious people together and what not.

also post history analysis is really good, i saw it in a past mafia game and it was like having maphacks

In case you didn't notice. I stopped doing that shit after I got the 10th PM harassing me about it.

lol then until a clue points us that your a blood thirsty killer, i'll have tea with you anyday =)


check your pms -.-.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2010 01:33 GMT
#1779
On October 16 2010 10:16 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 10:09 orgolove wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:51 jodogohoo wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:44 QuickStriker wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:40 KhrisKruel wrote:
On October 16 2010 09:39 KhrisKruel wrote:
instead of blatantly bandwagoning, you could make a short post of who you suspect or a gut vote. Veldril already has enough to get lynched


edit by way of post.

I mean who you suspected from 30 pages ago. Not alot has changed since then.

I stated this like 30 pages ago that I feel uneasy to that spreadsheet guy who always post with his spreadsheet and give information/evidence on others. It's just a feeling I have but in my opinion (assuming he didn't change thru the 30 pages), he's being way overly active to be just a townie and the fact that he's doing too much work makes me feel that he's doing it so no one can be suspicious of him ever....

But I could be wrong and he can really have so much free time like crazy and with REALLY good intention that most of us lazy folks won't do. Making a database of clues, posts, and everything instead of using that in real life professional jobs to earn 40k a year.

haha, as soon as he stops being helpful we can point all the fingers we at him, but as long as he is "actually helping" then it doesn't matter what team he's on, when the game nears it's end, if hes red hes not going to be posting anything helpful for the town.

also i think we need to look at the clues, not how relevant it is, but we could use some clue discussion...

also as a bonus, we know veldril deserves to die, but who else is bad? the red's are entire teams, not just individuals, we need more than just one person, we should tie suspicious people together and what not.

also post history analysis is really good, i saw it in a past mafia game and it was like having maphacks

In case you didn't notice. I stopped doing that shit after I got the 10th PM harassing me about it.

lol then until a clue points us that your a blood thirsty killer, i'll have tea with you anyday =)



im 99% sure your a red.
zerroth
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada173 Posts
October 16 2010 01:47 GMT
#1780
99%? lol go vote for his lynch!
With no power, comes no responsibility.
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