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lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 25 2010 10:54 GMT
#2396
On July 25 2010 11:03 tree.hugger wrote:
Basically, it works like this:

We lynched citi.zen because in doing so, we would find out which he was, and thus Southrawrea would be the other. Of course, we could've done the same thing by lynching Southrawrea, but due to suspicions I, and many others held, along with the advantage of catching a bigger fish, or using the skill of a superior hatter, we decided that citi.zen was the better target.

However, the fact that citi.zen is NOT the MH candidate, makes our choice a mistake. Whereas lynching Southrawrea would've had the same effect; either validating citi.zen and his friend/Tricode, lynching citi.zen means that we still have a third option on the table; namely that citi.zen was a pawn of the GF. And now we can't ask him about it. Not only that, but if this is the case, then the GF knows both detectives.

Or Southrawrea could be mafia.
Or Tricode and Bc could be mafia.

We should've had two choices, but now we still have three.

So here's what we need to do. If citi.zen's MH was the mafia, then we could probably call gg right now, because we're done. At any rate, our detectives should make sure to confide in someone that they trust, because they'll both die. A suicide bomber is likely in this scenario, and that means Southrawrea would die as well, leaving a total of five town deaths and one mafia death in a night.

But because of how bleak this other outlook is, I think we have no choice but to reject it. We can't win the game that way, and so we shouldn't even consider it, and pretend like citi.zen's death has given us the two-pronged choice that we aimed for.


Tricode and BC is not linked try not to do the. Tricode could be innocent and BC mafia. We ahve already established this.

The other alternatives to put shadow on citi.zens cirkle are:

On July 25 2010 09:33 citi.zen wrote:
The townies who voted with the mafia need to stop playing this game. Forever. This is as clear cut as it gets: BC, Inf, Chaos, Tree.hugger, South are red. Perhaps after you lynch me you will... I don't know... go after one of them. You have a double lynch to use.

By the way: to avoid this dumb town situation, the mad hatter is actually the SECOND player my DT checked, not myself. I claimed in his place to keep them safe for one more night. Now they have all they need to accurately place their bombs. I am plain vanilla town, as you are about to find out when I flip.

Remember: BC, Inf, Chaos, Tree.hugger, South. Plus whoever fake claimed.



-If the GF played MH and would be checked by a detective is very unlilkely.

-That the DT was mafia and that he convinced citi.zen is also very unlikely
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 25 2010 11:05 GMT
#2397
On July 25 2010 11:07 zeks wrote:
Let's blow the real taco stand.

Citi.zen was my mouthpiece.

I am the real mad hatter.

My bombs are on BC and SouthRawrea.

I am missing a medic and a DT. Claim to me if you wish.

I'm right here. Kill me.



I think you need to prove this. Too much shit have been going down. You are likely to be the mad hatter but can you post some PM between you and citi if you have them?

This doesn't really change anything though here are som points:

Tricode is confirmed vigi.
The only way he could not be this is if he and BC are mafia working together and knows that there are no other vigilantes two mad hatters and that they could force a vote between the two mad hatters.
This is extremly unlikely. The mafia are not geniuses that can tell the future.
Consider therefore Tricode confirmed.

Since I already posted why its extremely unlikely that citi.zen was deceived in my last post.
Southrawrea is mafia and claimed false. The lynch will show this tomorrow.
Since the vote was even and the discussion hard I think it will be pretty easy to pick out some of the other mafia members. Follow citi.zens list and we probably have most of them.
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 25 2010 11:08 GMT
#2398
On July 25 2010 19:51 Subversion wrote:
youngminii how can you have BC and southrawrea on the same list when BC tried to get a vote together against south?


BC suddelny changed his mind for and voted against his own advice for citi. Therefore BC is most likely mafia
If you look at all the posts that he made in south's favour all of the sudden many of them are inconsistent and have logical flaws,
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 25 2010 11:14 GMT
#2399
On July 25 2010 18:09 d3_crescentia wrote:
What the fuck is this shit. We should have lynched either Tricode or BC today, because we have no idea if BC is confirmed town, and then all of this shit happened. In fact given the amount of misinformation that's flying around in this thread it can become unmanageable and frustrating to try and figure things out right away.

Claims that need to be resolved:
- BC/Tricode
- zeks/Southrawrea
- Pandain/Amber[Light]/youngminii

Since we have three claimants (Tricode/South/zeks) then we need to avoid overlapping kills if it so happens we have two bombers. Since zeks has claimed to have bombs on BC/South, South should put his remaining bomb on Tricode (chaoser?? what even makes you think he's a THREAT, for fucks sake). We then lynch both of them. I'd rather all of the above die and have our DTs check other targets rather than waste any more time trying to figure these things out.

Yes, I realize that this 1-for-3 trade is terrible. I don't really give a shit, though, because it's time to play hardball.

Something is especially not right here, considering citizen's claims that he was also DT checked. But then if our claimant checked Amber and young, when could they have checked citizen? I don't like this.


You have got it wrong. Tricode is most likely vigi since he claimed first and the only reason he would not be is an incredible unlikely plan where both him and BC are mafia and makes a fake hit to get one of the two mad hatters killed.

Citi.zen claimed not to be part of young/ambers circle (or rastaban he got 2 claims.) but of the other circle with 1 DT 1 MH and citizen- read his final post.
Zeks has since then claimed to be the mad hatter.
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 26 2010 13:07 GMT
#2722
I think this is clear and for people that dont see it you probably never will.

BC is so red you can use him in a russian parade.
Southrawrea sould be green and fooled by BC but the chances are low and he would be the worst town ever. (Next to Subversion who seemed to have claimed to 4 persons he is not sure of).

##vote doublelynch
##vote Southrawrea
##vote Bloodyc0bbler
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 27 2010 01:19 GMT
#2768
On July 27 2010 03:37 Divinek wrote:
[
They are still fucking idiots or mafia.

I will be happy to vote anyone that pushed BC AND South over majority if EITHER pops green. Could of at least waited for BC to post suspects. Could of waited for more from south. Ignore every other scummy person and possible information we could of gathered because you guys would like to vote.

Sorry BC, regardless of your color, I didn't cast my vote for you yet.

Vote: Abstainx2 & Double Lynch


yeah i took my vote off cause i didnt want pre mature deaths either , i think people that led to it are scum or completely stupid.

however bc didnt vote yet so as long as he doesnt vote for double lynch etc i think he can still post all the info he's come up with?

hopefully![/QUOTE]

Dont really see you point. 12 people has voted for Bc and south. That is a majority that wants them killed. Why should I not vote if I agree with the other 11?
This way we get to see what they flip much earlier and have more time for discussion before the night. I wouldnt change my vote anyway why not get more information from the lynches for our discussions?
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 28 2010 15:14 GMT
#2938
So here aremy comments and some notes to make the game clearer.
Pandain is proably mafia we have to lynch him either way. The chance is so small that there are another miller. Also he has been voting and acting strange.

20/30
1. tree.hugger
2. brownbear
3. youngminii Checked by Subversion
5. chaoser
6. divinek
7. xelin
9. SiNiquity
10. lakrismamma
11. rastaban
12. bumatlarge
13. Amber[LighT] Checked by Subversion
15. pandain checked by Zeks DT
16. ~OpZ~
17. Infundibulum
23. d3_crescentia Vet Took hit on day one
24. Misder
26. Pyrrholuxia
27. Tricode
28. zeks Mad hatter
29. protactinium

16/24 town-aligned players alive
2/2 Veterans alive
2/2 Town KP roles alive
1/2 Medics alive
1/2 DTs alive

4/6 Mafia-players alive
0/1 Godfather
1/1 Suicide Bomber
Mafia KP: 2 (until they have under 1.5 when divided by 2)

Double lynches: 2 (1 remains)

Have I missed anything?
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lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 28 2010 15:33 GMT
#2939
Sorry forgot Tricode
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lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 29 2010 00:11 GMT
#2987
On July 29 2010 08:37 Divinek wrote:

did d3 actually ever claim vet? people kept fabricating the fact that he did, can you get a direct quote of him saying he's a vet?


Maybe you are right.. Anyone want to clear this up?

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lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 29 2010 06:18 GMT
#3102
Nice playing with you everyone! You should be able to bag this town!
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
August 08 2010 17:40 GMT
#3839
I think that the plan was outr best opinion at the moment. It was not optimal but the town was going in circles and at least this generated information.

I realize that I should have stayed more clear of citi.zen in order to be more undercover DT. This is my first game as that role and I made my mistakes.
It would also have helped if he played more activly that day.

Still the plan gor the GF and another mafia killed and plenty of suspicious posts. The town should have been able to sort out who was mafia. It was hard though with town people playing very distubingly and spamming.

The mafia got EXTREMELY lucky on the night after that I still believe that the town could have taken this.
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