Godfather Mafia - Page 20

On July 02 2010 00:00 rastaban wrote:
You make some valid points lakrimossa but 2 of them are not.


Since townies can't PM this game (unless you are the mason / lover pair) there is no way to roleclaim to the a Mason without making it public which means the jailkeeper would die that night.



He us adding in the fact that the jailer would have to cover the mason. Who ever the jailer protects can't be recruited (though the percent should probably be lower since if he protects the GF or either mason it doesn't add the third safe option) making 3 people a night unrecruitable.

On July 02 2010 01:06 YellowInk wrote:
A quick note to those of you trying to analyze my behavior:

If you read through the games I've played here (this is the fourth), you will find I have opened each game differently. This is for a few reasons which I might discuss in a general mafia thread, but it is primarily to make me unreadable.

There is no one strategy that 'convinces' people that one is town. If there were, scum would use it and town would be reduced to random voting and this game would be very boring. The best one can do is never be obvious scum. So that's all you're seeing.

On July 02 2010 01:50 Korynne wrote:
Oh so turns out I actually went through all the posts of YInk I needed to.

Seriously people, my plan is solid. =\ It lets us do up to 3 actions a day instead of 1 and I think that's way more valuable than having potentially more night actions (if we have more than 1 DT/RB which is highly unlikely). Also if dream catcher gets DT/JK they should use it freely, except not overlapping DT with what we vote for in thread.

On July 02 2010 02:22 Korynne wrote:
We block the top player if people vote on a top player to block, simple as that. I don't see why that is listed as a separate thing. If we all think top players are likely to be scum, then we roleblock them. This means that we don't kill our top players unnecessarily. We're not choosing someone random to roleblock. -.- We're choosing whoever we think is most likely to be mafia, as indicated by a pseudovote in this thread!

So a DT's intuition is better that a) getting more information because we can look at vote patterns, b) the "intuition" of all the town players, including the top players. This way we can eliminate people as GF for sure, which means even less overlap as DT because I doubt we have more than one DT to start with, and dream catcher should just check people who have not yet been checked.

This plan only works if RB/DT follow it.

On July 01 2010 16:36 Bill Murray wrote:
I would say I'm the best mafia player, as mafia, but it's only because my town play is so horrible. I disguise really well as mafia because my town play = scummy as fuck.

On July 02 2010 01:00 Korynne wrote:
Like honestly BM, if you've read any of my games, you know that other than the game where I was scum in your game (though that doesn't really count because that was f11) I've tried to propose some sort of lengthy strategy at the beginning of the day.

Also I was going to bed, you're way too sensitive to the vote on you and you don't usually seem like the OMGUS kind of person. Like I said, which you have not addressed in any way, you're playing differently this game than all others. You could at least have said, well gee thanks I try to help out for real now and I get voted on for that? You just completely ignored that part of my post. So yeah, heavy FoS on you.

What's wrong with my idea?
If we implement it we can do up to 3 actions a day instead of just 1.
Actions:
#1 Roleblock a mafia, this can block all 3 KP if we hit the mafia. I highly doubt mafia is going to pretend to not kill anyone when a townie gets blocked, they could just kill that townie and 2 others. Even when mafia has 1 KP it's between not killing and letting the one guy (we chose) die, and just killing the person that they feel like is most detrimental to town.
#2 DT check a GF, since that's the only way we can find the GF and a GF to DT trade is like, absolutely worth it especially since we have a system for mafia now.
#3 Lynch an inactive, since we have to lynch everyday, if the roleblock and DT check don't work out then we just lynch an inactive, like we can do today since we haven't started DT checking and roleblocking.

So how do we implement this plan?

#1 Pseudovote in this thread for mafia and GF, like ##mafia: A ##GF: B
#2 At night, roleblocker blocks the person who got the most votes for mafia (even if they don't agree on the person being mafia, and of course they don't have to roleblock themselves, but they can't roleblock anyone else at night if they are the one designated to be roleblocked) and detective checks the person who town voted on as most likely to be GF (with the same clause as above, except if the town voted for the DT then he can check whoever he likes)
#3 In the morning, if the DT found GF, we lynch GF.
If no night kills happened, we lynch the person that was roleblocked.
If neither of those happen, then we lynch an inactive (they don't contribute to us very much, and they're harder to read, and this forces people to talk)
We can also vote for double lynch if there's a lot of people we want to kill (like we got a GF and there was no night kills, vote for double lynch the next day).
This way we get through 3 things a day. Now for everyone who doesn't understand how this is beneficial to us, let me spell it out for you.

Above method: Up to 3 actions a day
Normal method: We have to choose to either lynch someone we think is mafia (to lower their KP), choose to lynch someone we think is GF (to stop the recruiting), and probably have no power to threaten the inactives because we're too busy hunting scum.

Okay peoples? This sounds like a wonderful idea.

On July 02 2010 01:17 Korynne wrote:
Bill you're laughable at your accusation of me. I'm acting funny and that's in line with my scum meta? The only game I was scum was your game, where it was f11 so there was no reason to make any let's break the game plans. And I'm pretty sure everyone in that game thought I was acting just fine and normal.

The game I acted "funny" in might be the PYP where Foolishness (mafia) kept accusing me of being scum because of one thing I repeatedly say (well you can lynch me to find out since I'm vanilla and then you'll know for sure if Foolishness stole Comp Vig) that he's like omg that's so typical scum. And I was townie that game.

So like, worst argument ever. -.-

"Now Double Lynch (proposed by BM). This is bad idea, and many people already spoke up why, but let me summarize the main points: 1) There are only two double lynch available in this game and should be saved until seriously needed, 2) Using double lynch at d1, when there are lack of information, only increases chance of bandwagoning scum slightly but greatly increase the chance of bandwagoning PR (since there are more of them) which is exactly what we do not want. I am curious to know the Bill Murray's reasoning behind his support- it is in responsibility of the plan proposer to explain why that plan is good idea, you know.

On July 02 2010 03:48 Korynne wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and get this started.

##GF: Bill Murray
##Mafia: citi.zen

Like I said before, BM is acting really weird. But he seems to be contributing to town. So I say we DT check him. citi.zen is a good player, but he's quiet, so might be a good target for GF since he doesn't draw attention.

On July 02 2010 04:12 Ace wrote:
Policy Police!