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On July 01 2010 13:56 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2010 13:55 BrownBear wrote:
Korynne, what do you think about the slight modification to my plan (we can roleblock twice in a row, so if a roleblock happens and nobody dies, keep that person alive and roleblock them again, THEN lynch them the next day)?
This is all still assuming there's a roleblocker in the game, obviously. I've decided your idea is worth trying at least on night 1. If it fails, then it fails, and we don't do it again. We can't role block twice in a row 
On June 27 2010 03:34 DarthThienAn wrote:
Roleblocker
You have the ability to prevent a player from performing a night action. You must inform me of your roleblock target before the night begins, and your target will be blocked for that night. Your target will be informed that they have been role blocked only if they can perform a night action. You may not roleblock the same player more than twice in a row. You do not lose your ability upon recruitment.
Au contraire 
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On July 01 2010 13:58 Korynne wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2010 13:55 BrownBear wrote:
Korynne, what do you think about the slight modification to my plan (we can roleblock twice in a row, so if a roleblock happens and nobody dies, keep that person alive and roleblock them again, THEN lynch them the next day)?
This is all still assuming there's a roleblocker in the game, obviously. I've decided your idea is worth trying at least on night 1. If it fails, then it fails, and we don't do it again. Oh shit my bad, it says can't do so more than twice in a row. We'll have to clarify with Darth whether he means can't do so twice in a row or can't do so more than twice in a row. If it is in fact can't do so more than twice in a row then I agree with your plan.
Why would we have to clarify? It seems pretty clear cut to me in the role post.
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Chez, minor flaw in your thinking: Lovers are absolutely recruitable by the GF. So we only have 2 confirmed townies, not 4.
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On July 01 2010 14:06 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2010 13:56 L wrote:
I want to know what people think about the following idea; We have one of the two masons claim. Given that we have verrrrry likely have medic(s), they can prot him and keep him alive during the game. If the player is lying, one (not both!) of the real masons can call him out. Given the fact that there are only 2 total mafia members today, it would cost the mafia essentially half their team to contest the mason claim. This is also a reason why claiming immediately would be more helpful than claiming at a later date. The downsides of this? Godfather now has a person he knows not to recruit, and the mason might die once mafia kp gets over 1.
If we do that, we have a confirmed townie who can essentially drive our vote; if he's wrong, cool beans, it happens. If he's right; awesome. Either way, it'll prevent exploitable intra-town conflicts. I don't like this idea. The 2 masons are going to be a thorn in the mafia's side until they die. Giving one of them up only gives us the benefit of having a confirmed townie who can do... what? We should use our collective thoughts to out the mafia, not a single person. Now, if it looks like a mason is going to be lynched, the mason should definitely role claim... if a mafioso is doing this, one of the real masons will come out and say it which would be a good trade.
I agree with AFJ. Nobody should roleclaim, at least yet. It just creates targets only for the benefit of having one less person in the lynchpool.
Also, come on, guys, I said it already. Lovers are recruitable. Having them roleclaim means jack shit.
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Godfather gets no confirmation or denial. This is awesome in many ways, bad in others.
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Jeezus fuck, citi.zen, read my posts. I debunked Chez's roleclaim plan regarding the lovers already.
Lovers. Can. Get. Recruited.
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I'm off for the night,peace all!
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On July 01 2010 16:36 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2010 13:18 BrownBear wrote:In this game, it looks like the middle is in more danger than the strong players, as most people (myself included) think they'll be recruited. And now everyone's placing me in the middle pool. Curses. Gotta work harder at being a better player. I'm not striving to be the best player, but I do want to work my skill level to a point where I can at least be considered very good. But now for some funtimes. Korynne: On July 01 2010 12:02 Korynne wrote:
I personally put BrownBear down with A5J and Hesmyrr, he's not quite as active as I'd like him to be, whereas me and YInk post a lot more I think. Referring to BM's list, placing me as a player minimally likely to be recruited. Then, next page: On July 01 2010 12:33 Korynne wrote:
So probably if I was GF I would go for middle of the road people, like BrownBear/Hesmyrr/AcrossFiveJulys. Enough skill to not like, out the entire mafia somehow, and under the radar enough to not be under heavy scrutiny like citi.zen or L. OBJECTION! That is a contradiction, missy. Explain yourself? Hey, being "minimally likely" is better than "no fucking chance". The way you've been posting this game, I would recruit you.
Is that a compliment? 
But I'm slightly confused. You have this awesome big long post responding to a bunch of people, including MAJORLY pointing FoS at Korynne... then you decide to lynch A5J for a jeep tell, saying he's the only obvious scumtell so far?
Wut?
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This thread a splode. Reading back on it...
Korynne vs. BM feels a lot like Ace vs. BM from last game... we know how that one turned out. Korynne's playing has been a bit scummy (she held on to her (fundamentally flawed) plan for WAY too long, then latched on to my slightly better idea when it came out, she's spamming up the thread by arguing with BM, she hasn't really been all that helpful), but this play strikes me as more traitor play than mafia play, coming from her. It's possible she is mafia, but she plays a better scum than this, so I'm calling ##Traitor: Korynne for right now. And honestly, traitor isn't worth lynching (yet): once we figure out who they are, we can safely ignore them. I can see arguments for lynching traitor day 1 instead of gambling that we get godfather day 1. Thoughts?
People have thrown around Korynne, L, BM, and YellowInk as possible GF or mafia candidates. These guys are the 4 most active players in the thread, I'm less inclined to believe that these guys are, as it would be much easier for a GF to not place him/herself under all this scrutiny, and post just often enough to not be suspicious. By the same token, it's probably not BrowneY, ElyAs, or any of the other inactives (whats up with BrowneY not having access to this thread? Weak.)
BM is playing his usual self: scummy, but probably townie. I'm going to say BM: Town for now, and keep an eye on him - if I notice any shift in his playstyle, that will be a good tell that he was recruited. L is active (less active than usual though, wut?), and has given me no cause to doubt him yet. L: Town
If you are wondering why I'm being so generous with the town calls, it's because I can: about 85% of us are town. Come Day 2 or 3, I'll be less generous with calling people townies.
As far as who I think we should roleblock tonight... I'm leaning either YellowInk (his posting isn't quite up to standard and he's more lurkerish than usual, plus if we're wrong, oh well, it's night 1), or possibly Chez (he's who I would have recruited last night, now that I think about it. He's actually a very devious mafia player, as he just acts normally and everyone dismisses it as normal Chez behavior. It doesn't mean he lives through the game, but it does mean he's a good candidate for early/mid game play.
Also, I don't know if this was mentioned before, but in addition to roleblocking someone, we should jail them. The way I see it, Jailing them blocks recruitment, so GF can't touch them. It does NOT block roleblocks, so the roleblock will go through, and then if a mafia member (even a jailed one) is roleblocked, mafia lose their KP. Simple, yet effective. Unless I misread the rules. Thoughts?
Finally, it's great that ElyAs posted, but I need moar activite from him before I change my vote, specifically because this day 1 vote is even more of a crapshoot than usual, and I don't want to take a chance on an active player, in case we're wrong. So ElyAs: MOAR ACTIVITY! MOAR!
Also, it's wrong to vote for BrowneY. Dude can't even read the thread yet, give him a break.
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ebwop: ALTHOUGH, TO BE FAIR, I can see arguments for lynching traitor day 1 instead of gambling that we get GF day one.
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On July 02 2010 10:03 Bill Murray wrote:
then I get brownbear claiming i'm spamming and worthless now, when i have been scumhunting more than anyone.
Hey now, don't put words in my mouth. I never said you were worthless, in fact I said I consider you one of the better mafia players on this site. Your level of activity is awesome, it's just some of your posts have been abrasive and/or scummy. Chillax dude, no offense was meant, I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way
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Do what Korynne said.
Also, guys, too much paranoia around zeks being mason. I'll say this once: IF YOU KNOW ZEKS ISN'T MASON (as in, you are), CLAIM NOW.
Come on, mafia isn't going to pull a dumb stunt like that on day 1 when there's only one of him, and the GF sure as hell isn't going to try.
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I'm a little confused by your list, Chezinu. Maybe I'm just paranoid, because I'm on it, but I would like to see reasoning behind why you put that list together.
(Posting from airport, lol)
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Alright, I agree with everyone else, and I don't really have time to go in detail. Immigration issues.
##Vote: YellowInk
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Lol, Lufia 2, I approve.
So I got stuck at immigration lines for over an hour today because I was missing one sheet of paper that ended up not even being necessary. Go figure.
I'm in Vancouver now :D
Also, ElyAs dead, claimed townie - d'oh. Shit. At the same time, especially in this setup, day 1 lynch is such a crapshoot, better to lynch a nonactive than someone who will contribute later.
Also, whats the details on Browney?
+ Show Spoiler +
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Guys flamewheel is totally mafia we should lynch him mmkay
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My vote is to default to Korynne's plan, with the change a few people (including myself, because I'm shameless like that) have said: Basically,
1) Roleblocker roleblocks YI
2) Jailer Jails YI
This way, YI, if he's town, can't be recruited. Also, if YI is mafia, his night hit will be blocked. Someone will still be recruited, but nobody will die.
Thoughts?
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I actually understand the lakris choice... Basically, in other games, it's advantageous for the mafia to take out good players early, so that later on town doesn't get to benefit from those players (see: Radfield). In this game, though, there's recruitment, so the town wants the GF to be able to recruit those good players. Thus, they're gonna go for players who they don't know are good or not, and trust the GF to recruit awesome players to their team.
So, now this begs the question: Who do we lynch today?
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Also, Korynne is leaving wut?
And Coroner. Motherfucker.
I voted for myself as a placeholder just in case of an emergency where I can't reach my computer. I'm working 17 hour days at the moment, so it's a possibility. Let's get some discussion going. To start out, Divinek: bumatlarge gf? Bumatlarge: Leaving and throwing random vote on Chez?
Wtf?
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