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Divinek
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YellowInk
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On June 23 2010 06:43 Divinek wrote: hm well the chez/bill team seems to be the most active team overall so far so maybe that's an indication of a role outside dah greeeeeeeeeen, especially all of the emotionally fueled responses and random picking aparts of other people. Unless that's some weird townee level which would be stupid Define active? You think this posting in code in thread is helpful to the town? They could just be PMing to each other. Clearly they intend for it to be read, they're just making it difficult for every town team to pick it apart. It muddies the waters. I'm not saying it makes them scum, but I surely don't count this sort of posting as making them active. BM coming after me, Chez's question for me, Chez posting resulting opinion of me, etc - this is substance. The codes are trash. So I agree with you that they're being active, you should be careful to observe for the correct reasons. Use similar reasoning when you look at others - find posts that have merit and only consider them. | ||
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Divinek
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On June 23 2010 06:49 YellowInk wrote: Define active? You think this posting in code in thread is helpful to the town? They could just be PMing to each other. Clearly they intend for it to be read, they're just making it difficult for every town team to pick it apart. It muddies the waters. I'm not saying it makes them scum, but I surely don't count this sort of posting as making them active. BM coming after me, Chez's question for me, Chez posting resulting opinion of me, etc - this is substance. The codes are trash. So I agree with you that they're being active, you should be careful to observe for the correct reasons. Use similar reasoning when you look at others - find posts that have merit and only consider them. well im just saying it makes it far less likely they're townees, they could be blue or red, but why would townees be so self destructive as to make wild baseless allegations and hinder the team by causing too much confusion. Obvisouly attacking someone can draw out reactions but yeah, it just leans me more to thinking they're not green and being mindful for that | ||
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On June 23 2010 06:58 Divinek wrote: i said nothing about the code btw i think it's stupid as well Do you think it is stupid because I mentioned you in the code? | ||
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LaXerCannon
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On June 23 2010 06:46 Korynne wrote: Well I think BM and Chez are just kind of crazy and post a lot anyway... I don't really know how to read them. =\ By the way people you lynch teams, not people. xD The only case where one person and not their whole team dies is to modkills, in which case their alignment is not revealed. thanks for clearing this up, I got confused by the people voting in the voting thread X_X | ||
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DarthThienAn
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+ Show Spoiler + Page 1: nothing of significance, except a review of the setup. Day 1 Post – 10/10 flamewheel ^_^ On June 22 2010 11:59 johnnyspazz wrote: I voted for L because I think he will probably make the town lose eventually. Might as well get rid of him now. This post is absolutely retarded. I don’t believe in killing solely based on past games. Furthermore, the blatant aggressiveness and “I attracted too much attention to be mafia” doesn’t hold here, simple because I think 40-60% of the players here would actually go along with that, which means it could be a mafia plot to get rid of L/Caller early. Red flag for johnnyspazz. + Show Spoiler + On June 22 2010 12:35 L wrote: On a more serious note, teams 2, 3, 5 and 8 (until BB returns) have a high chance of inactivity or feigning inactivity. Out of these teams if we're going to pick the standard shoot someone on day 1 if they're quiet or are normally quiet route, we should probably shoot 2 or 8. 2. because retard super armor is really hard to break. 8. because spazz obviously mafia for trying to shoot me. That said, inactivity should be less of an issue with teams having 2 players per unit, so we might want to use another barometer to determine who we're going to shoot. We could go after lowest aggregate post quality or something similar. In terms of team balancing, most of the teams are roughly equivalent in terms of skill, with at least 1 decent to good player per team. Because of that I don't think we can make very many mafia team composition judgments just yet. The following are players I'm not 100% sure about, style and skillwise. 3. LaXerCannon, bumatlarge 5. Durak 7. Zyrre 8. Stormtemplar, BrownBear 9. DCLXVI, Divinek The rest I know pretty well from reading prior games and such. Since I've got work tomorrow and won't be able to devote 4 hours to readin' stuff, if anyone can write a short summary of these players (if you've played w/ them before) in terms of skill level + playstyle, that would be tits. Hmmm. If Team 2 is inactive, then I won’t buy it. From what I know of BM, he’s spammy. Him being inactive makes no sense to me. And from what I’ve seen of Chez, he’s hardly inactive, he’s just obscure with his posting (in a brilliant way of course). So if they are inactive, then they’ll have explaining to do. Team 5, I don’t know anything about Durak – is he new? – but YellowInk should not be inactive. Based on last game, he has a lot of time on his hands. So he has no excuse to be inactive. Team 8, with BB gone, I’ll agree to that. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a game where johnnyspazz has contributed all that much, and stormtemplar is new? For your barometer, post length is always key. Once we come down to it, it’ll just be post analysis. No/bad content = lynch. Disclaimer: no offense meant in the following interpretations of these people. LaXerCannon is relatively new, one game under his belt I think? He almost got modkilled day 1 because he didn’t show up, but from then on his activity level was… decent. A 5/10 maybe. I say decent, because the majority of the players in that game hardly posted, lol. bumatlarge was a pretty mafia for a new player (as far as I know). Had some good ideas, but he was pretty passive about them. I don’t expect to see much aggression from him, I think he’s someone who likes be sure about what he’s doing before he does it. In terms of activity, so-so? Similar to LaXer? Can’t say too well since he was also mafia, so his posting would have been affected. Zyrre: a pretty good player, analysis-wise. With a little more activity than last game, he could have been extremely dangerous to the mafia. He’ll probably start off slow, and then pick up the posting a day or two in. BrownBear: he was pretty active in 3 Kingdom’s. Maybe it’s cuz he had the night KP lol. A 7/10 I think. But in the last game, he went away for a couple days unannounced and didn’t really make up for it afterward, I don’t think. Really disappointing there. So in terms of activity I can’t say. He’s an alright player overall though. DCLXVI: uhhh. He was a DT last game, and didn’t post much. Not sure if he would have posted more if he was townie though. Relatively low activity as far as I know, although he had the sense to check bumatlarge last game. Others: dunno, new? On June 22 2010 14:16 Caller wrote: holy crap L is on my team what the hell it's like someone surgically attached a girl from my university to me. Not only am I unable to remove a festering parasite without killing myself, but it has decided to monopolize my life in the process. Uhh… do you guys go to the same school? + Show Spoiler + On June 22 2010 14:24 YellowInk wrote: Greetings everyone! At least this one didn't start on the holiday. So day 1 lynch. We're in the random voting stage I guess. I don't know most of you guys yet - just what the rumor mill churns up. I'm not about to read 20 games to try to get backstory. I have read a couple though just to get my feet wet. First, just a note about activity. It's probably fair to expect every individual player to have some threshold of posting else the team should be put under scrutiny for inactivity. If we see particular players going inactive, we should not allow it and hold the team accountable. If one player is quiet and the other player just kind of scrapes by, it's an easy way for mafia to try to duck under the radar or otherwise not provide much info for us to get reads on. And now for some ideas on where to throw our day 1 lynch: Seems a bad idea to lynch Radfield since he gets killed night 1 or lynched day 2 (since obv mafia). Though I wouldn't autolynch Radfield on day 2 either because I think Radfield makes an excellent medic target. Lets let the mafia play the guessing game with this one as to whether we have a medic and whether that medic will choose to protect this target. Since Chezinu seems to love the PM game, he may be easier to read when forced to play an entirely in thread game. So I'd be leaning against lynching him. I could be swayed to lynch LaXer since as a townie he did hurt the town pretty badly by roleclaiming as a bodyguard. Not much of a reason, but it's the best I've got on a clean slate board. If he's town he can't PM anyone anyhow and Bum would be able to help ensure that if they are medic or DT that they use it effectively. I guess this will be ok. I know Ace always gets the detective role. Unless I missed it somewhere, roles are not necessarily random (please correct this point if it was stated they would be random somewhere). They may have been assigned 'for entertainment value'. Not something I'd put too much stock into, but I know I'd find it amusing if Ace were DT after posting in my (first) game that he hates DT. So I'm inclined to not pick him for day 1 either. I'd be against lynching L because the one game I read with him in it where he was a godfather calling for people to roleclaim I thought it was super obvious that he was mafia. Not to say that he's always super obvious about being mafia, but I definitely would rather be trying to read someone that I thought couldn't hide it as well than someone random. We probably shouldn't lynch teams 7. 8, or 9 on day 1 (unless they are inactive) since we can hold them to a higher threshold of activity. With three players on each team, we should expect them to produce more posts. Since these three teams will be forced to produce more posts, it'll be easier to get mafia reads on them. I'd like to target a team with an inactive player (surely no entire team will be inactive, right?). If we have every player active, then I guess LaXer would be my vote, but I don't think this will happen. We need to ensure that we don't let a mafia team skate by with an inactive player keeping their team's post count down. So lets start hearing what people have to say! My stance on the Day 1 Lynch – I’m going to stick with “lynch an inactive” for now, but I don’t expect it to come into use. I expect all of the teams to have at least one player who’s posted at least 2-3 times, so I’ll actually be voting (most likely) based on post analysis today. Lol, Radfield lived in his last game to the end – the day 1 curse has been lifted off of him for now, I think. No PMs in this game. Except for Mafia of course. I can’t see the DT/Medic be allowed PMing abilities to anyone. Again, why are we all trying to lynch based on previous games? It’s true that LaXer’s move last game wasn’t the best, but that gives no indication toward his play/role this game. Lynch based on this game, not others. You’re as bad as johnnyspazz to me right now. Another “read” based on past games. I don’t know if the roles were random, but just because Ace is usually detective, doesn’t mean he’s a detective now. Personally, I am going to be looking at activity on a team-basis. No reason to lynch a team if they have 1 players who’s dominating the thread with his posting. But again, I’m hoping that inactivity isn’t even a problem in this game. @Chezinu: to be honest, those posts are the kind of posts that make me want to lynch someone. To me, they say nothing. And since you took advantage of your style last game to hide as a mafia, I’m not going to let you slip by this game. So I expect to see some good posts from you =p. All this talk about inactivity levels is silly. Everyone post, and we won’t have to worry about it. Welcome, Durak =] now, post more. + Show Spoiler + On June 23 2010 01:22 bumatlarge wrote: Im offended by your statement! We should really get this show on the road as to who are candidates for lynching. I dont feel comfortable just resting my vote on someone who Im not even 50/50 on. But we cant just let ourselves get swayed so we should start deciding soon. Im not sure whether having alot of different people under two red roles is good or bad, as they can spread enough while still stacking a bit with not mch consequence, but then again, we can take the direction a team is going and question them. I'd think teammates would be fine disagreing on points and not hinder the town in certain places, but we should be wary of a DT team trying to play off a rolecheck without getting mafia suspicion. If we even have one  So this doesn't happen I'd suggest a DT team to gather two rolechecks and publicly post the info on the third day, or as soon as they find red. The medic would protect the proclaimed DT baring a roleblocker for as long as possible. I dont think mafia can chance publicly faking DT with only 2 reds in the game, so trading a DT for 1 red would help alot. I think checking a town would be relatively useless as PMs are banned, so try to check legitimately suspicious teams. Id think this game will be very down to the wire if there are no blues and a half decent mafia squad. Otherwise we have have a really good chance with proper analysis. Hmm.. I’m not sure what he just said, but yes, DTs go for actually suspicious people. No town circles in this game. + Show Spoiler + On June 23 2010 02:06 YellowInk wrote: If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use. Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else. Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game. I’ll agree to this. Priority for lynch list: team read red, one read red, inactive. Any red reads on one player >> green reads on their teammate unless for some reason we know it’s POSITIVE that they are green. This is a priority list, ofc. On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote: since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. BM, what? Why are you referring to Yellow Turbans? YellowInk wasn’t in that game. I don’t even understand your post o.O. On June 23 2010 02:20 Divinek wrote: well hopefully if im to up my activity ill spam so much ill confuse myself nothing like colour coding dah posts too omg the spoilers Divinek (and all newbies), this is an example of a useless post. Don’t do it. On June 23 2010 02:21 Korynne wrote: BM and Chez... you can PM each other. >.> So like, stop spamming up the thread... *goes to look up the morse code stuff* Lol. It’s morse code? Meh, still not going to bother translating it. On June 23 2010 02:26 Divinek wrote: Also i tend to really agree with bm's line of reasoning here. 'hey guys this is what we should do to catch dem red fellars.. right?' seems quite suspicious enough to cast my random vote Hmm. His reasoning that YellowInk is red based on his attempt to seem green doesn’t fly with me. Personally, I think that BM’s just trying to get a reaction. On June 23 2010 02:28 bumatlarge wrote: God damn phone. The anal spamming doesnt help us :/ Another example of a useless post. On June 23 2010 03:14 Bill Murray wrote: Newer players, notice how YellowInk has no logical argument towards me so he has to use colors with his posts to back up his weakness? Did YellowInk accuse you at some point? Did I miss that? O_O. @DT strategy: I think a good time for the DT to come out is Day 3 (Day 2 if mafia found first night). 2 solid town reads = plenty, and it keeps the mafia in the dark for a little longer regarding blue roles. + Show Spoiler + On June 23 2010 03:20 Bill Murray wrote: Your play in this and xxvii or whichever one it was in have been differing. I do not take it as being evolution of your meta-game either. The way I am taking it is that you have a power role. Being fairly unfamiliar with your play, I am going to take my vote off of you for now, as you did seem to take the spotlight in the other game you were in (I had you confused with another player, Trezeguet23). I do note some differences in your play, though, as in the other game you seem to be a lot more joking while taking the spotlight. On June 23 2010 03:24 Bill Murray wrote: Wow. Lynch this guy. First, the mafia won't know shit if they have a roleblocker They can have a roleblocker while we have 7 townies, they don't know anything WE can also not be sure to have a detective at all I was about to take my vote off of you, but the way you are acting, it is staying there for the rest of the game. Also, advising DT not to go to lategame is ill informed in my opinion as well. Every DT messup i've ever really seen has occurred by the DT revealing too early I also dislike the negative near-omgus you are directing towards bumatlarge. While his play may be scummy scummy play doesn't always = scum. I am not saying carry him into a lynch or lose scenario, but that he is not acting nearly as scummy as other people, namely you. Durr.. what o_o. Hey, what’s an omgus? You’ve referred to it twice now.. I didn’t really read YellowInk’s thoughts on DT strategy, because it was a in a fairly dense paragraph and my brain got tired =]. So I just decided to put up my own thoughts. I agree with a later DT reveal, like I said before, though. On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote: BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator. If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. How to decipher? Decipher for me please.  On June 23 2010 03:25 Bill Murray wrote: + Show Spoiler + [Setup 2] - 1 Mafia Goon 1 Mafia Roleblocker 7 Townies Why’d you just quote that? On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote: you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? lol… someone needs to chill out? And stop wasting my time with his spammy posts? On June 23 2010 03:28 YellowInk wrote: Wow this forum is annoying to use when the post speed goes up. Why don't we get a warning or something that more people have posted since you started typing? More posting to follow. Learn to F5 and use tabs, n00b.  On June 23 2010 03:53 Korynne wrote: OMGUS Ah, Korynne, you’re an angel, you are. On June 23 2010 03:59 Chezinu wrote: The OTHER HALF DISAGREES!!! DT should role check a mafia tonight and yell and scream mafia all night long so that in the morning we can lynch the mafia. Then when day comes you should yell and scream and taunt mafia not to kill you out of spite. Then rolecheck the next mafia while pming the vigi to kill the last mafia. then lol all night long and say gg and exclaim that the person you rolechecked is mafia all the while quoting random quotes in the thread produced by mafia saying that is what gave them away and calling yourself a mad detective. But then again, achieving near impossible odds although is fun and rewarding could be too risky for the cowardly. So as bumatlarge pointed out, if you are mafia or DT YOU MUST NOT FEAR DEATH! That is the way of the townie and the way to disguise as a townie... not that I'm doing that right now... hehe Chez, there’s no vigi =[. But yes, a DT with a red read should yell and scream all they want come morning. Radfield, there’s also a 50% chance that the DT kills any roleblocker (if there is one) ^_^. If he dies the next night, we know which set up we’re in, and then it’s… 4 town vs 1 mafia (teams)? Decent odds there, though not a for sure win. Durak, don’t edit your posts. On June 23 2010 05:38 Korynne wrote: Wow Chez, that is possibly the worst analysis I have ever seen... I'll post my comments in green so it's easier to see. + Show Spoiler + On June 23 2010 05:24 Chezinu wrote: I guess I should post what I know: Radynee/Koryfield anaylsis: Awww, I like the name change, it's cute. xP Shouldn't it be Radynne and Korfield or something though? xD + Show Spoiler + On June 22 2010 07:09 Radfield wrote: Get your game on mafia. Inactivity will not be tolerated. Giggidy Giggidy. On June 22 2010 07:28 Korynne wrote: Yay so excited. <3 So yeah, time to get stuff rolling. First day's lynch is pretty randoms, so I will vote for inactives. Gogogo! In terms of strategy, I don't think there's much for us to do other than just talk a lot. xD DT should probably let town know once they find 2 townies or 1 mafia. Medic should not claim anytime soon. Giggdy and excited about their roles... Well I don't know why Radfield is excited, but I created this game so I'm personally very excited to see how it goes. On June 22 2010 08:38 Korynne wrote: Yeah, the whole point is that mafia can narrow it down to 2 setups, and blue roles can narrow it down to 2 setups. On June 22 2010 09:26 Korynne wrote: I picked the classic f11 setup because I figured it would be hard to get twice as many people than we usually do.. On June 22 2010 10:50 Korynne wrote: Did you want to play Incog? Maybe ask flamewheel if he'll stick you into a random team. xP or is Kory excited about the f11 setup? I prefer smaller games in general, it makes it easier for me to get a read on everyone. This is like, a big small game because there's 9 teams but like 20 people... so like, I'm excited, basically. xP On June 22 2010 22:32 Korynne wrote: It appears that Chezinu has voted for me and Radfield, without the requisite "aka abstaining for now.. because no one else would dare vote for him, right?" We note that he is mafia that game he voted for Radfield, however this time he just said a bunch of di-dah-di-dits instead of the previous statement. For the sake of generating some content on day 1, care to clarify this Chezinu? xD Kory underestimates how random my behavior can be though some aspects remain the same... I don't believe I understand you very well yet Chezinu, that I agree with. xD On June 23 2010 00:34 Korynne wrote: Hmmm... I am trying to decide if Chill would be offended by that statement... He's really more like Light than L most of the time. Did you decide yet? No, I don't think I know Chill or L enough to make a statement. I will consult more veteran members of the community to find an answer. On June 23 2010 02:21 Korynne wrote: BM and Chez... you can PM each other. >.> So like, stop spamming up the thread... *goes to look up the morse code stuff* What is the fun in that? I don't suppose this is something I can argue against... though it does make quite a few of us feel less fun because we have to click spoilers and find morse code translators on google. On June 23 2010 02:35 Korynne wrote: YellowInk, I believe BM is referring to a game Caller ran, called the Three Kingdoms Mafia where there was Yellow Turban as a 4th party. I believe he must be mistaking you for someone else because your name is not on the player list. How many games have you researched in the past? That way I can consider killing you or not if I'm mafia. If you know too much... I have read very little of games prior to my existence on the mafia forum. But pretty much followed every game since (though I don't follow the games I don't play in as much). I've also read/watched RoTK so I know what Yellow Turbans are... On June 23 2010 03:48 Korynne wrote: Uh, how does this post make any sense? a) If I was mafia, like YellowInk pointed out, I would have twice as many people on my team, making analysis much faster. b) If you're trying to say that as mafia I am crying unfair because mafia is supposed to be the only ones able to communicate to other teams then first of all, you still can't use IRC to coordinate with other teams, and second of all, I don't see how talking in code allows you to coordinate with other teams. Even if you set up an elaborate system with someone ahead of time, how are you sure they are not mafia? Like, it's good that you're putting pressure on YellowInk (I haven't decided if he's scummy yet, he doesn't quite have the green glow from the game he was pardoner but I don't know if that's because he's blue, red, or just being less aggressive because he doesn't have clues) but making stupid accusations is like...wut? (read: being Bill Murray?) Interesting, posts have to make sense... I guess that's not a very good assumption I made there... On June 23 2010 03:53 Korynne wrote: OMGUS Why didn't you vote for me then? That was in response to YellowInk asking what OMGUS meant. On June 23 2010 04:24 Radfield wrote: Oh Chez.... Anyways, I agree, despite our lack of a vig, that the dt should claim once he pegs a mafia. There's no millers, so it's a for sure thing. Trading our DT for half of the mafia is a good trade, assuming we are decent players and can do some decent post analysis. The downside of this, is that once the mafia find out there is a DT, they will KNOW if there is a medic or not, and if there IS a medic, they will have a roleblocker, and roleblock the dt for the rest of the game(setup 1). So a dt claiming is either certain death, or certain roleblocking, unless we get lucky and it's the roleblocker who gets lynched(50-50 shot). So a dt who claims has a 50% chance of dying the next night(setup 3) and a 25% chance of getting roleblocked for the rest of the game (setup 1, with roleblocker alive) and a 25% chance of having medic protection for the rest of the game (setup 1, with roleblocker dead) Again, I think it's worth it for the dt to claim once he finds a red(or 2 greens as korynne stated) As for PMing your partners, I have assumed that this is allowed. We need a mod ruling on this ASAP however. I assumed this because Korynne designed the set-up, and I assumed she knew the rules For me the whole fun of this setup is that you get to make decisions as a team, and get to bounce your ideas off of each other about who you think is scummy, or who you think might be blue, etc.This guy actually reads my posts. He is cool. Radfield's pretty cool, that's why I asked him to join my team. =D On June 23 2010 04:29 Korynne wrote: Gee Radfield, read the rules, it makes me look bad if you keep making mistakes like that. D= However, he didn't read the rules.. I do not speak for Sir Radfield, but it disappoints me to see that he has not read the rules, and I have expressed this in a previous post. Conclusion: Either Mafia or DT Wait...what? How does that end up as mafia or DT? Would someone smarter than me enlighten me on how this makes us mafia or dt? >_> Hmmm. I think it’s because you guys were excited about your roles (though, I don’t give much credit to this) and show some competence. I don’t see how else Chez got that conclusion. On June 23 2010 05:39 YellowInk wrote: Are you saying posting nonsense is an effective way to play a blue role? How about green? If so, I am sorely disappointed. I don't think it makes you scum - I know you've been in enough games to have your own opinions about such. However it does may make you a useless town aligned role if you're NOT scum. Fortunately BM is posting a great deal of content. Unfortunately it is mostly wharrgarbl as well. If you're blue and playing this way, well that really sucks. At any rate, I'm still undecided on the BM/Chez team. They do make me laugh, but that's probably because it's the first game I've played with them. On June 23 2010 05:39 YellowInk wrote: Are you saying posting nonsense is an effective way to play a blue role? How about green? If so, I am sorely disappointed. I don't think it makes you scum - I know you've been in enough games to have your own opinions about such. However it does may make you a useless town aligned role if you're NOT scum. Fortunately BM is posting a great deal of content. Unfortunately it is mostly wharrgarbl as well. If you're blue and playing this way, well that really sucks. At any rate, I'm still undecided on the BM/Chez team. They do make me laugh, but that's probably because it's the first game I've played with them. Huh? BM posted content? All I remember is him fishing a little bit about you. On June 23 2010 05:43 LaXerCannon wrote: I believe we shouldn't vote off useless people unless it's to the point that it hinders the town's progress. That being said, they're next to go if we can't get any good behavioral analysis. To the possible Medic/DT: My advice is to stay unpredictable. Don't do too much analysis to the point where you're a threat and don't lay too low that you get killed. For the possible DT: I think checking the teams of three would be a good start as one of them flipping red would mean the rest of the team flipping red (unless I've misinterpreted the rules) Eh? Aside from the first, obvious piece of advice, what is your logic on that? If anything, check a team of two, as three people should be easier to read than two (generally). On June 23 2010 06:14 MooCow wrote: I haven't had a chance to analyse any of the posters so far but I see that YI thinks bumatlarge is mafia and BM is accusing YI of being mafia. I agree with others that BM/Chez posts a lot of random and a weak argument for lynching YI but the band wagon seems to be either lynch YI or BM. If either or flips green we check the other party if they turn red we can trust that they are pro town. @Jspazz can you post what you translated that made you believe that BM/chez is blue? You are too pro at stating/summarizing the obvious. On June 23 2010 06:20 Chezinu wrote: I agree with this action. You are seeming more and more town to me. BM never told me that he thought you were mafia, btw. I think he was just accusing to get reactions, unless I'm wrong. BM please PM me, thanks. Yea, I think BM was just fishing… I hope he was, cuz if he wasn’t then he’s either really bad, really unnecessary, or really red. On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote: oh man i feel like a detective! Thanks for that. Unfortunately, I’m not sure what to make of it since it’d be retarded to post that in thread. On June 23 2010 06:57 Divinek wrote: well im just saying it makes it far less likely they're townees, they could be blue or red, but why would townees be so self destructive as to make wild baseless allegations and hinder the team by causing too much confusion. Obvisouly attacking someone can draw out reactions but yeah, it just leans me more to thinking they're not green and being mindful for that That’s just their style. To post crazy/random anyway. Nice to know I didn’t miss much. -____-. Summary of my ideas on the plans: + Show Spoiler + Regarding inactivity: Based on the activity levels so far, it seems like lynching an inactive might actually be a viable option. I was hoping that no one would be inactive, but as of now, Teams 7 and 8 seem to be, for the most part, missing. BrownBear is of course excused, but meeple should still be here until tomorrow, and both Nikon and stormtemplar are MIA. Zyrre and johnnyspazz with only a couple posts so far? L and Caller seem to be MIA as well? L had that one post and then went to work or whatever but I don’t remember Caller posting? I really don’t want to lynch based on inactivity (in that I don’t want it to be a problem), but if it comes down to it, these teams are the candidates, as far as I can tell. Like I said before though, reads > inactivity for lynch targets. If we can get a red read on anyone with sound logic, I’d be open to that. Other Lynch Candidates: I’d like to remind everyone of one of the first posts I looked at – johnnyspazz’s accusation of L. Completely uncalled for, and a very aggressive move, with potential of drawing even some “veterans” into the bait. Keep an eye on him. Another target is Bill Murray/Chezinu because of their generally poor/confusing style of play, but I’d lean toward no, and look for more before lynching them (they have a few good posts every so often. I think Chezinu’s a good poster when he’s not messing around). Thoughts on YellowInk: I don’t really understand the pressure BM was putting on him. I do disagree with an early DT claim and all that, but it didn’t scream mafia to me. Maybe I wasn’t looking closely enough, but so far, he’s only as suspicious as BM/Chez. bumatlarge – has had some pretty poor suggestions I think. Another person to watch out for. Blue Strategy First off, I’d like to remind everyone that we can’t be sure of whether we have a DT, a medic, or both. So post analysis is even more important this game. BUT! If we do have them. Regarding activity: I’d favor not making yourself look too pro-town, or look like too good of a townie. Mafia want to eliminate either possible blues or people who contribute to the thread. If you look like the town’s leader, you’re in danger of being hit. Laying low might make you look scummy and may be a traditional blue move, but it’s easier to blend in, especially considering the posting levels so far. It’s harder to hit a blue out of a crowd of 3 or 4 than a crowd of 2 or 3. Detective: Night 1, check someone suspicious who you think is mafia. Don’t aim to confirm greens. If you catch a mafia, I still say claim Day 2 and out that person. If it’s setup 1, you’ll probably be protected and roleblocked/hit the next night. Setup 3, you’ll probably die that night, but it leaves the rest of us in a 4v1 assuming mislynch day 1 at the beginning of day 3, or else insta-victory. Medic: Like I said, mafia want to kill the best posters in the town. So protect them. Duh xD. If you think someone might be the Detective, you can protect them as well. Uhh… I don’t think there’s ever a time you should claim, unless you protect someone that gets hit. And even then, you might consider laying low. | ||
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On June 23 2010 06:18 Chezinu wrote: I'm still waiting for L to come post and put order to town. Oh and how is one vote on each of BM and yellowink considered a bandwagon? I still think everything is up in the air. Told you i have work until 7 pm est every day, then i have transit time home. If i didn't do it this thread, i'm pretty sure i did it last. On page 7 reading through this stupidity. | ||
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On June 23 2010 09:20 Chezinu wrote: Edits aren't allowed. All storm did for edit was add "Of course..ect" To me, BM doesn't seem like mafia at all. That's fucking cute given he's on your team. | ||
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On June 23 2010 09:19 L wrote: Told you i have work until 7 pm est every day, then i have transit time home. If i didn't do it this thread, i'm pretty sure i did it last. On page 7 reading through this stupidity. I knew you had work, I seriously was just waiting. | ||
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On June 23 2010 09:22 Chezinu wrote: I knew you had work, I seriously was just waiting. So chezzers, why did you shit up our thread. Normally you don't shit up threads on day 1. | ||
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Reasons: Jspazz votes L. stormtemplar votes for team 2 and "agrees that voting for L is kinda not necessary". This makes no sense, who are you agreeing/disagreeing with? I don't think L was even mentioned as an option aside from Jspazz. | ||
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On June 23 2010 04:56 Korynne wrote: So there seems to be a bandwagon starting on YellowInk. I don't like it very much... Mainly because I believe that YellowInk is relatively easy to read, so I don't think we'll have a lot of trouble dealing with him in the later days as we would some other people *cough*L*cough*Chezinu*cough*. So I would definitely favour lynching a group of inactives or someone hard to read over lynching YellowInk. Those are my two cents on the matter. I WONDER WHY YOU DONT LIKE A TRAIN ON YOUR SCUM BUDDY LOL | ||
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