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On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff.
Ah, okay. I'm not sure about that though. YellowInk's a pretty strong player, albeit new. I'd put Team 5 above Teams 7, 8, and 9 for that reason, although I don't really remember how good meeple is. Zyrre's like half a YellowInk because of a similar quality of posting, he's less active, and Nikon and Durak are both newbies so nothing there. DCLXVI and MooCow are both so-so, and Divinek I don't know. Neither of the first two are all that great for posting content / being active. This is all based on my playing XXVII.
But, to be honest, I don't care about a 'balanced mafia group' team-strength wise. Didn't someone say flamewheel usually goes random?
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darth why you be hating on me? am i really THAT suspicious?
I’d like to remind everyone of one of the first posts I looked at – johnnyspazz’s accusation of L. Completely uncalled for, and a very aggressive move, with potential of drawing even some “veterans” into the bait. Keep an eye on him.
i think this is called RVS, someone correct me if i'm wrong.
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On June 23 2010 11:03 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. Ah, okay. I'm not sure about that though. YellowInk's a pretty strong player, albeit new. I'd put Team 5 above Teams 7, 8, and 9 for that reason, although I don't really remember how good meeple is. Zyrre's like half a YellowInk because of a similar quality of posting, he's less active, and Nikon and Durak are both newbies so nothing there. DCLXVI and MooCow are both so-so, and Divinek I don't know. Neither of the first two are all that great for posting content / being active. This is all based on my playing XXVII. But, to be honest, I don't care about a 'balanced mafia group' team-strength wise. Didn't someone say flamewheel usually goes random?
Nikon is not even remotely new, nor is MooCow. Meeple is relatively strong either way.
I'd be very surprised if flamewheel would admit to fixing the teams, but f11 setups are normally jiggled around after the rng to make things a bit less dumb.
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On June 23 2010 11:05 johnnyspazz wrote:darth why you be hating on me? am i really THAT suspicious? Show nested quote +I’d like to remind everyone of one of the first posts I looked at – johnnyspazz’s accusation of L. Completely uncalled for, and a very aggressive move, with potential of drawing even some “veterans” into the bait. Keep an eye on him. i think this is called RVS, someone correct me if i'm wrong.
Personally I'm hating on you because you do very little besides cry that people are hating on you.
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L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot.
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On June 23 2010 10:45 BrownBear wrote:Yass, I am back! I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons: + Show Spoiler [Reasons!] +On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 14:24 YellowInk posted:
It's already been answered by another player sufficiently, but I think there's something else worth considering in a team game.
If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use.
Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else.
Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game. since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: Show nested quote +so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words: On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool. On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.
If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive. But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already) On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:chez: + Show Spoiler +-.-. .... . --.. .. -. ..- --..-- / .-- .... --- / .- .-. . / .-- . / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - ..--.. Chezinu, who are we going to protect? Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:Bill: + Show Spoiler +.. / .... . .- .-. -.. / - .... .- - / - .... . / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / .-- .... --- / .--. --- ... - . -.. / .- ..-. - . .-. / -- -.-- / .-.. .- ... - / .--. --- ... - / .-- .- ... / -- .- ..-. .. .- .-.-.- / .. / - .... .. -. -.- / .. .----. -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - / .- / - --- .-- -. .. . .-.-.- / .. / .- .-.. ... --- / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / - .... .- - / .-- . / -- .- -.-- / .... .- ...- . / .- / -.. - .-.-.- I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Di-dit, Di-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-di-dah Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dit, Di-di-dit Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-dah-dah-dit Di-dah-dit Dah-dah-dah Dah Dit Dah-di-dah-dit Dah, Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dit Dit, Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah , Dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit Dah-di-dah-dah Dah-dit Dah-dit Dit, Di-dit Di-di-dit, Di-dah-di-dit Di-dit Dah-di-dah Dit Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dit Di-di-dah Dah-dah, Dah-dah Di-dah Di-dah-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit, Di-di-dah-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-di-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah I , would , say , protect , ace , .... , korynne , is , likely , scum , major , f.o.s. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +--. . - / --- -. / .. .-.-.- .-. .-.-.- -.-. .-.-.- / ... --- / .-- . / -.-. .- -. / -.. .. ... -.-. ..- ... ... / .-- .... --- / .-- . / ... .... --- ..- .-.. -.. / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect oh man i feel like a detective! Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.htmland it is accurate to the best of my knowledge. So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP ...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly. There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars. I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team. Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today.
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On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot.
I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo.
I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect
zyrre for instance is drawing my fos
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On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:Who is this clown? + Show Spoiler + You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post.
First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar.
Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you.
Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown.
Chill good buddy. He may have been gone all day, but he's one of the players that is often considered good at figuring stuff out and organizing. My type of guy. Doesn't mean he's town - I expect he'll be posting a good bit beyond this so that people can get a read on him.
I don't really agree with his list as there's a lot being batted around at the moment. I'm surprised no one has voiced to agree with my analysis of bumatlarge. I guess you guys are off the hook for now. That being said, I think they'd be an excellent target for a DT investigation.
Since I'm still highly suspect of bum with his continued posting pattern (I will elaborate this on request, but I suspect no one cares at the moment), I lean against voting for BM/Chez. If bum is mafia, BM probably isn't. It's just too risky of a play. But from all the talk of BM/Chez being pretty crazy players, idk. People seem really on the fence about him.
If the post counts from some of these teams remain this low, I'm on board with lynching inactives. Whatever else I can speculate, they're still just day 1 loose reads. When the posting content from the inactives come up, maybe there is something there that will read red to me as well and we'll all come to a consensus.
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On June 23 2010 11:07 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:45 BrownBear wrote:Yass, I am back! I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons: + Show Spoiler [Reasons!] +On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 14:24 YellowInk posted:
It's already been answered by another player sufficiently, but I think there's something else worth considering in a team game.
If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use.
Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else.
Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game. since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: Show nested quote +so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words: On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool. On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.
If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive. But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already) On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:chez: + Show Spoiler +-.-. .... . --.. .. -. ..- --..-- / .-- .... --- / .- .-. . / .-- . / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - ..--.. Chezinu, who are we going to protect? Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:Bill: + Show Spoiler +.. / .... . .- .-. -.. / - .... .- - / - .... . / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / .-- .... --- / .--. --- ... - . -.. / .- ..-. - . .-. / -- -.-- / .-.. .- ... - / .--. --- ... - / .-- .- ... / -- .- ..-. .. .- .-.-.- / .. / - .... .. -. -.- / .. .----. -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - / .- / - --- .-- -. .. . .-.-.- / .. / .- .-.. ... --- / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / - .... .- - / .-- . / -- .- -.-- / .... .- ...- . / .- / -.. - .-.-.- I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Di-dit, Di-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-di-dah Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dit, Di-di-dit Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-dah-dah-dit Di-dah-dit Dah-dah-dah Dah Dit Dah-di-dah-dit Dah, Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dit Dit, Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah , Dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit Dah-di-dah-dah Dah-dit Dah-dit Dit, Di-dit Di-di-dit, Di-dah-di-dit Di-dit Dah-di-dah Dit Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dit Di-di-dah Dah-dah, Dah-dah Di-dah Di-dah-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit, Di-di-dah-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-di-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah I , would , say , protect , ace , .... , korynne , is , likely , scum , major , f.o.s. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +--. . - / --- -. / .. .-.-.- .-. .-.-.- -.-. .-.-.- / ... --- / .-- . / -.-. .- -. / -.. .. ... -.-. ..- ... ... / .-- .... --- / .-- . / ... .... --- ..- .-.. -.. / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect oh man i feel like a detective! Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.htmland it is accurate to the best of my knowledge. So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP ...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly. There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars. I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team. Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today. Brownbear: + Show Spoiler +BROWNBEAR,WHEN YOU SAY CONVINCED THEM YOU WERE TOWN ,AND CLAIMED SO THAT THE MAFIA WOULD HIT YOU, BUT THE MEDIC COULD PROTECT YOU, THUS WASTING A MAFIA KP, ARE YOU TRYING TO JOIN OUR TOWN CIRCLE BY CHECKING OUR ALIGNMENT, OR CLAIMING TOWNIE, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL US?
Yo, I translated because translating is cool.
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On June 23 2010 11:12 L wrote:
Yo, I translated because translating is cool.
If only we could get them to not muck about in the first place. +2 brownie points for L.
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On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos
well yes if someone is always known for revenge voting it may be a null tell but it also means they should probably be at the top of the suspect list. Also it depends on the nature of the vote: If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty.
Also there isn't that much information flowing around. A lot of it is people poking holes around to see what people say. Like L claiming my team or Radfield's team must be Mafia because his top target sucks: thats ridiculous logic. I'm not sure if it's obnoxious L being sincere or he's faking it but either way it's dumb.
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On June 23 2010 11:06 L wrote:
Personally I'm hating on you because you do very little besides cry that people are hating on you.
good thing i was responding to you right? 
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On June 23 2010 11:12 L wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:07 Bill Murray wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 BrownBear wrote:Yass, I am back! I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons: + Show Spoiler [Reasons!] +On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 14:24 YellowInk posted:
It's already been answered by another player sufficiently, but I think there's something else worth considering in a team game.
If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use.
Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else.
Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game. since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: Show nested quote +so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words: On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool. On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.
If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive. But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already) On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:chez: + Show Spoiler +-.-. .... . --.. .. -. ..- --..-- / .-- .... --- / .- .-. . / .-- . / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - ..--.. Chezinu, who are we going to protect? Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:Bill: + Show Spoiler +.. / .... . .- .-. -.. / - .... .- - / - .... . / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / .-- .... --- / .--. --- ... - . -.. / .- ..-. - . .-. / -- -.-- / .-.. .- ... - / .--. --- ... - / .-- .- ... / -- .- ..-. .. .- .-.-.- / .. / - .... .. -. -.- / .. .----. -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - / .- / - --- .-- -. .. . .-.-.- / .. / .- .-.. ... --- / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / - .... .- - / .-- . / -- .- -.-- / .... .- ...- . / .- / -.. - .-.-.- I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Di-dit, Di-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-di-dah Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dit, Di-di-dit Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-dah-dah-dit Di-dah-dit Dah-dah-dah Dah Dit Dah-di-dah-dit Dah, Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dit Dit, Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah , Dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit Dah-di-dah-dah Dah-dit Dah-dit Dit, Di-dit Di-di-dit, Di-dah-di-dit Di-dit Dah-di-dah Dit Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dit Di-di-dah Dah-dah, Dah-dah Di-dah Di-dah-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit, Di-di-dah-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-di-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah I , would , say , protect , ace , .... , korynne , is , likely , scum , major , f.o.s. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +--. . - / --- -. / .. .-.-.- .-. .-.-.- -.-. .-.-.- / ... --- / .-- . / -.-. .- -. / -.. .. ... -.-. ..- ... ... / .-- .... --- / .-- . / ... .... --- ..- .-.. -.. / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect oh man i feel like a detective! Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.htmland it is accurate to the best of my knowledge. So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP ...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly. There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars. I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team. Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today. Brownbear: + Show Spoiler +BROWNBEAR,WHEN YOU SAY CONVINCED THEM YOU WERE TOWN ,AND CLAIMED SO THAT THE MAFIA WOULD HIT YOU, BUT THE MEDIC COULD PROTECT YOU, THUS WASTING A MAFIA KP, ARE YOU TRYING TO JOIN OUR TOWN CIRCLE BY CHECKING OUR ALIGNMENT, OR CLAIMING TOWNIE, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL US? Yo, I translated because translating is cool.
You should translate the harder ones that everyone seemed to ignore, maybe just maybe I have a code that only a select few can read! That makes this game fun!
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On June 23 2010 11:17 Chezinu wrote:
You should translate the harder ones that everyone seemed to ignore, maybe just maybe I have a code that only a select few can read! That makes this game fun!
i already tried and it was too hard to break! give me a hint
i'm going to switch my vote to team 2 because claiming medic day 1 is retarded.
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On June 23 2010 11:08 YellowInk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:Who is this clown? + Show Spoiler + You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post.
First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar.
Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you.
Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Chill good buddy. He may have been gone all day, but he's one of the players that is often considered good at figuring stuff out and organizing. My type of guy. Doesn't mean he's town - I expect he'll be posting a good bit beyond this so that people can get a read on him. I don't really agree with his list as there's a lot being batted around at the moment. I'm surprised no one has voiced to agree with my analysis of bumatlarge. I guess you guys are off the hook for now. That being said, I think they'd be an excellent target for a DT investigation. Since I'm still highly suspect of bum with his continued posting pattern (I will elaborate this on request, but I suspect no one cares at the moment), I lean against voting for BM/Chez. If bum is mafia, BM probably isn't. It's just too risky of a play. But from all the talk of BM/Chez being pretty crazy players, idk. People seem really on the fence about him. If the post counts from some of these teams remain this low, I'm on board with lynching inactives. Whatever else I can speculate, they're still just day 1 loose reads. When the posting content from the inactives come up, maybe there is something there that will read red to me as well and we'll all come to a consensus.
No such thing. If X, then Y doesn't apply here unless we have process of elimination. There's also no such thing as a too risky play unless you have perfect information. You don't know their roles so you can't claim what they may possibly do is too risky. Both teams could be scum because no one has been cleared via DT or behavior at all.
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On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown.
Stick it to the man! Not voting for this bad-ass thats for sure
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On June 23 2010 11:17 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:12 L wrote:On June 23 2010 11:07 Bill Murray wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 BrownBear wrote:Yass, I am back! I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons: + Show Spoiler [Reasons!] +On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 14:24 YellowInk posted:
It's already been answered by another player sufficiently, but I think there's something else worth considering in a team game.
If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use.
Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else.
Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game. since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: Show nested quote +so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words: On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool. On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.
If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive. But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already) On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:chez: + Show Spoiler +-.-. .... . --.. .. -. ..- --..-- / .-- .... --- / .- .-. . / .-- . / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - ..--.. Chezinu, who are we going to protect? Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:Bill: + Show Spoiler +.. / .... . .- .-. -.. / - .... .- - / - .... . / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / .-- .... --- / .--. --- ... - . -.. / .- ..-. - . .-. / -- -.-- / .-.. .- ... - / .--. --- ... - / .-- .- ... / -- .- ..-. .. .- .-.-.- / .. / - .... .. -. -.- / .. .----. -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - / .- / - --- .-- -. .. . .-.-.- / .. / .- .-.. ... --- / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / - .... .- - / .-- . / -- .- -.-- / .... .- ...- . / .- / -.. - .-.-.- I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Di-dit, Di-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-di-dah Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dit, Di-di-dit Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-dah-dah-dit Di-dah-dit Dah-dah-dah Dah Dit Dah-di-dah-dit Dah, Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dit Dit, Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah , Dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit Dah-di-dah-dah Dah-dit Dah-dit Dit, Di-dit Di-di-dit, Di-dah-di-dit Di-dit Dah-di-dah Dit Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dit Di-di-dah Dah-dah, Dah-dah Di-dah Di-dah-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit, Di-di-dah-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-di-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah I , would , say , protect , ace , .... , korynne , is , likely , scum , major , f.o.s. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +--. . - / --- -. / .. .-.-.- .-. .-.-.- -.-. .-.-.- / ... --- / .-- . / -.-. .- -. / -.. .. ... -.-. ..- ... ... / .-- .... --- / .-- . / ... .... --- ..- .-.. -.. / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect oh man i feel like a detective! Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.htmland it is accurate to the best of my knowledge. So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP ...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly. There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars. I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team. Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today. Brownbear: + Show Spoiler +BROWNBEAR,WHEN YOU SAY CONVINCED THEM YOU WERE TOWN ,AND CLAIMED SO THAT THE MAFIA WOULD HIT YOU, BUT THE MEDIC COULD PROTECT YOU, THUS WASTING A MAFIA KP, ARE YOU TRYING TO JOIN OUR TOWN CIRCLE BY CHECKING OUR ALIGNMENT, OR CLAIMING TOWNIE, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL US? Yo, I translated because translating is cool. You should translate the harder ones that everyone seemed to ignore, maybe just maybe I have a code that only a select few can read! That makes this game fun!
Pregame key encryption should be considered equivilant to PMing and result in modkill. I'm not saying that is what you're doing, but if you have any understanding of cryptography this should be obvious.
Personally I think this is likely as not an attempt to misdirect attention and the water muddying just makes you look scummy.
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On June 23 2010 11:16 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote:On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos well yes if someone is always known for revenge voting it may be a null tell but it also means they should probably be at the top of the suspect list. Also it depends on the nature of the vote: If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty. Also there isn't that much information flowing around. A lot of it is people poking holes around to see what people say. Like L claiming my team or Radfield's team must be Mafia because his top target sucks: thats ridiculous logic. I'm not sure if it's obnoxious L being sincere or he's faking it but either way it's dumb.
They're not my top target at all. I didn't even post a target. I summarized what was going on in the thread. Yellow/Durak jumped out at me because I read Yellow's previous game and he seemed relatively 'in the game' and active, but his partner is a self admitted zero. Compare that to some of our other teams. We have literally zero teams at that level besides that one, which means that a host would likely have compensated.
But seeing as you, durak and YI have all come out swinging against a post which is largely examining a random potential out of a much larger post, I think I got something right.
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Oh, silly me, Top of the page darth comes out too.
That makes all 4 of you. Connect 4!
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On June 23 2010 11:05 johnnyspazz wrote:darth why you be hating on me? am i really THAT suspicious? Show nested quote +I’d like to remind everyone of one of the first posts I looked at – johnnyspazz’s accusation of L. Completely uncalled for, and a very aggressive move, with potential of drawing even some “veterans” into the bait. Keep an eye on him. i think this is called RVS, someone correct me if i'm wrong.
How is that random? It's based on the fact that you voted to lynch L straight off with absolutely no possible evidence or logical reasoning, other than the idea that L has the potential to lead us to our death. So does Bill Murray. So does Chezinu, to some extent. Other people might - but why not those other two, for example? Why L?
On June 23 2010 11:06 L wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:03 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. Ah, okay. I'm not sure about that though. YellowInk's a pretty strong player, albeit new. I'd put Team 5 above Teams 7, 8, and 9 for that reason, although I don't really remember how good meeple is. Zyrre's like half a YellowInk because of a similar quality of posting, he's less active, and Nikon and Durak are both newbies so nothing there. DCLXVI and MooCow are both so-so, and Divinek I don't know. Neither of the first two are all that great for posting content / being active. This is all based on my playing XXVII. But, to be honest, I don't care about a 'balanced mafia group' team-strength wise. Didn't someone say flamewheel usually goes random? Nikon is not even remotely new, nor is MooCow. Meeple is relatively strong either way. I'd be very surprised if flamewheel would admit to fixing the teams, but f11 setups are normally jiggled around after the rng to make things a bit less dumb.
Eh, I don't know who Nikon is at all, my bad xD. MooCow is pretty new isn't he? I thought XXVII was his first game, making two games total. But okay, fair enough.
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