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Foolishness
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On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! [blue Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying  MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. [/blue]
We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that)
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On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! [blue Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) [/blue]
I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him.
I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles.
I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target.
I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information.
Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out.
We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it.
##vote Ohn for DT checks
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On June 15 2010 08:13 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it. ##vote Ohn for DT checks
I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?).
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On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! [blue Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) [/blue]
This sounds fine. Will vote ohn - thought his lack of reaction to my day one vote was a bit odd. At any rate he ain't helping us.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On June 15 2010 08:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:13 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it. ##vote Ohn for DT checks I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?).
Him not responding means he's of no use to the town, and even if he's town aligned he should die. Also confirming DT sanities out of it is even better for us.
Obviously if you have someone better, give reasoning and vote. There's no reason not to unless you're mafia.
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On June 15 2010 08:20 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On June 15 2010 08:13 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it. ##vote Ohn for DT checks I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?). Him not responding means he's of no use to the town, and even if he's town aligned he should die. Also confirming DT sanities out of it is even better for us. Obviously if you have someone better, give reasoning and vote. There's no reason not to unless you're mafia.
Hmmm... ok, I'm fine with ohN as long as we have our less suspect detective (MooCow) rolecheck him and have Ludwig role check another (bit more active) person (call them person A). That way A will probably be the one to say they got role blocked, if anyone.
And dude, it's time to stop accusing me of being mafia.
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On June 15 2010 08:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:13 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it. ##vote Ohn for DT checks I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?).
I think we should go with my earlier plan of 2 DT's checking one target ( possibly Ohn ). Watcher/tracker follows up on us or the target to make sure everyone is telling the truth and we all reveal our information.
But with the new info we have ( AFJ and citizen MAYBE 100% town or someone we can REALLY trust) how about we PM our findings to them so we don't reveal it to the public and we'll continue from there?
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On June 15 2010 08:28 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:20 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On June 15 2010 08:13 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it. ##vote Ohn for DT checks I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?). Him not responding means he's of no use to the town, and even if he's town aligned he should die. Also confirming DT sanities out of it is even better for us. Obviously if you have someone better, give reasoning and vote. There's no reason not to unless you're mafia. Hmmm... ok, I'm fine with ohN as long as we have our less suspect detective (MooCow) rolecheck him and have Ludwig role check another (bit more active) person (call them person A). That way A will probably be the one to say they got role blocked, if anyone. And dude, it's time to stop accusing me of being mafia.
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I'm here and I'm willing to change my vote. I'll be around for like another 30-40 minutes.
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On June 15 2010 08:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:28 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On June 15 2010 08:20 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On June 15 2010 08:13 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it. ##vote Ohn for DT checks I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?). Him not responding means he's of no use to the town, and even if he's town aligned he should die. Also confirming DT sanities out of it is even better for us. Obviously if you have someone better, give reasoning and vote. There's no reason not to unless you're mafia. Hmmm... ok, I'm fine with ohN as long as we have our less suspect detective (MooCow) rolecheck him and have Ludwig role check another (bit more active) person (call them person A). That way A will probably be the one to say they got role blocked, if anyone. And dude, it's time to stop accusing me of being mafia. I'm here and I'm willing to change my vote. I'll be around for like another 30-40 minutes.
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Just a FYI we aren't voting ohn for this current lynch right now. This is for the next lynch so we can confirm for all our blue roles on who to check.
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On June 15 2010 08:29 MooCow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On June 15 2010 08:13 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 08:06 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:On June 15 2010 07:55 MooCow wrote:On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.
If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.
I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! Tracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. We got 2 hours until day is over. RoL is already dead unless something drastic happens, which it won't. So we might as well talk about what night actions are going on. First thing is obviously to coordinate DT checks. We might as well vote on it. ##vote Ohn for DT checks I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?). I think we should go with my earlier plan of 2 DT's checking one target ( possibly Ohn ). Watcher/tracker follows up on us or the target to make sure everyone is telling the truth and we all reveal our information.
No, that won't work. Think about it more carefully. If you or ludwig are the roleblocker, they can roleblock who they are supposed to be investigating and the watcher won't be able to tell the difference (and we don't have a tracker anymore).
But with the new info we have ( AFJ and citizen MAYBE 100% town or someone we can REALLY trust) how about we PM our findings to them so we don't reveal it to the public and we'll continue from there?
I don't see the point. With most information public at this point, we might as well keep it public. Everyone in the town should be involved in decisions since we have public blues. Of course, if anyone wants to talk to someone they trust as townie via PM, I'm always open.
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What I mean is if we were going with my plan, both DT's get their information right and we PM it to a someone we trust so one or the other can't copy each other ( although there's only a 50% chance ).
The PM'd person confirms that he has both the DT's results and goes public with it.
The information will become public to everyone just not initially.
Basically imo it's just an extra method to stop one or the other from claiming to find the same info ( only 50% chance though ) but still worth it and pretty easy to do.
We can even PM 2 people ( AFJ and citizen ) you guys confirm it and then come out with the information to the public.
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On June 15 2010 08:43 MooCow wrote:
What I mean is if we were going with my plan, both DT's get their information right and we PM it to a someone we trust so one or the other can't copy each other ( although there's only a 50% chance ).
The PM'd person confirms that he has both the DT's results and goes public with it.
The information will become public to everyone just not initially.
Basically imo it's just an extra method to stop one or the other from claiming to find the same info ( only 50% chance though ) but still worth it and pretty easy to do.
We can even PM 2 people ( AFJ and citizen ) you guys confirm it and then come out with the information to the public.
Well... I think its a good idea to PM citi.zen with the info... since then at least you're unaware of the other people's findings... I doubt its really all that useful since it's not really that profitable to copy the other persons results.
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On June 15 2010 08:50 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:43 MooCow wrote:
What I mean is if we were going with my plan, both DT's get their information right and we PM it to a someone we trust so one or the other can't copy each other ( although there's only a 50% chance ).
The PM'd person confirms that he has both the DT's results and goes public with it.
The information will become public to everyone just not initially.
Basically imo it's just an extra method to stop one or the other from claiming to find the same info ( only 50% chance though ) but still worth it and pretty easy to do.
We can even PM 2 people ( AFJ and citizen ) you guys confirm it and then come out with the information to the public. Well... I think its a good idea to PM citi.zen with the info... since then at least you're unaware of the other people's findings... I doubt its really all that useful since it's not really that profitable to copy the other persons results.
Well my thinking was
Scenario
Both A and B claim DT. A post his findings first to the public. If B is mafia he can simply copy whatever I say to make himself also look like a DT.
Although as I said there's only a 50% chance this will even do anything. If either the DT is a mafia in hopes that they don't want to potentially screw up.
It's pretty simple to do with someone we trust and as i said before it may or may not be useful but it just adds a bit of trouble for the mafia.
It was a suggestion but if no one wants to do it fair enough we can just go public straight away with our information.
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On June 15 2010 08:43 MooCow wrote:
What I mean is if we were going with my plan, both DT's get their information right and we PM it to a someone we trust so one or the other can't copy each other ( although there's only a 50% chance ).
The PM'd person confirms that he has both the DT's results and goes public with it.
The information will become public to everyone just not initially.
Basically imo it's just an extra method to stop one or the other from claiming to find the same info ( only 50% chance though ) but still worth it and pretty easy to do.
We can even PM 2 people ( AFJ and citizen ) you guys confirm it and then come out with the information to the public.
Oh ok, that makes sense. It's actually a no-lose situation, since either of you would we were making it up.
The right way to implement this plan would be as follows:
both detectives and watcher PM both me and citi.zen with their results. Me and citi.zen will then communicate to make sure we got the same results and subsequently post them in the thread. If one of the detectives tries to frame one of us for lying, the other person can back him up. There are various other possibilities of people being mafia, but I think they will all work out in favor of the town.
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Yeah thats true... and definitely a way that a mafia can throw us off track for a while anyways... since it might look like we have two legit sane dts when we don't. Although I think if the mafia was claiming to be a dt especially in this game they would just pretend to be naive/paranoid...
Still... like I said, I think we should do this.
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One thing to consider in this hour is that RoL might be modkilled for inactivity... seeing as he hasn't posted/voted yet.
I wouldn't want to waste a lynch... Are there enough people around to swing the vote to Vivi57 or someone if RoL doesn't turn up?
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That's a good point meeple. vivi57 is the only person besides ohn, opz, RoL (current non-voters) who we wouldn't miss too much as a townie. He did jump in a page back to talk about the plan I proposed and wrote some good analysis though... I don't have a strong read on him either way.
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Would Vivi, as a mafia, give information on another potential mafia and throw him under the bus like that?
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