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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 14 2010 16:36 GMT
#501
A5j is now pretty confirmed. I will vote to Lynch vivi next.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
June 14 2010 16:39 GMT
#502
Quick post on who to lynch today:

Let's go after an inactive. It should be ridiculously obvious at this point that I'm townie and a huge waste of a lynch (and I'm active and logically thinking through things, you don't want me gone). It should also be obvious that lynching me does not reveal enough information about the detectives sanities to be worth it. Aka, it's bad for the town to lynch me. I think we'd be well advised to look at who supported lynching me thus far (since L was not involved in my bandwagon directly, another mafioso was probably involved) in the future.

For today, I propose we go after an inactive, since undoubtedly there is >= 1 mafia hiding in the inactives. Just to throw a name out, Vivi57 is both inactive and voted for me. I'm changing my vote to Vivi57. Please follow suit if you want the town to win
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 14 2010 16:48 GMT
#503
Wow wow wow. Either an amazing shot Citizen, or you're mafia and hoping to get all our roleclaims and allay all suspicion.

An extremely ballsy move actually, considering that if L flipped green, then we would certianly use the next lynch on you. Doubly hurting the town.


I'm still very ok with lynching AFJ, but if people don't agree I'm fine with that.

List of fairly inactive players:

vivi57
redtooth
RoL
Ohn

I say we go after RoL first. He strikes me as moderately scummy, and is the scummiest looking player who voted for Jspazz.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
June 14 2010 17:00 GMT
#504
I'm down with RoL more than Vivi57... there's little/no case to be made for/against Vivi since he's so inactive.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
June 14 2010 17:06 GMT
#505
Having said that and then going through his posts... RoL is pretty damn inactive too...

I'll have to think more about which one is more deserving
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
June 14 2010 17:27 GMT
#506
On June 15 2010 02:00 meeple wrote:
I'm down with RoL more than Vivi57... there's little/no case to be made for/against Vivi since he's so inactive.

To go by history, Vivi57 is usually inactive when he's townie, and very active if he has a blue role. Not as sure as when he's mafia, but I'd go for RoL just in case.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 14 2010 17:31 GMT
#507
On June 15 2010 02:27 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 02:00 meeple wrote:
I'm down with RoL more than Vivi57... there's little/no case to be made for/against Vivi since he's so inactive.

To go by history, Vivi57 is usually inactive when he's townie, and very active if he has a blue role. Not as sure as when he's mafia, but I'd go for RoL just in case.

You're pretty confirmed too I guess, with A5J.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
June 14 2010 17:37 GMT
#508
On June 15 2010 02:31 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 02:27 Foolishness wrote:
On June 15 2010 02:00 meeple wrote:
I'm down with RoL more than Vivi57... there's little/no case to be made for/against Vivi since he's so inactive.

To go by history, Vivi57 is usually inactive when he's townie, and very active if he has a blue role. Not as sure as when he's mafia, but I'd go for RoL just in case.

You're pretty confirmed too I guess, with A5J.

You mind explaining any of that?
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 14 2010 17:39 GMT
#509
On June 15 2010 02:37 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 02:31 citi.zen wrote:
On June 15 2010 02:27 Foolishness wrote:
On June 15 2010 02:00 meeple wrote:
I'm down with RoL more than Vivi57... there's little/no case to be made for/against Vivi since he's so inactive.

To go by history, Vivi57 is usually inactive when he's townie, and very active if he has a blue role. Not as sure as when he's mafia, but I'd go for RoL just in case.

You're pretty confirmed too I guess, with A5J.

You mind explaining any of that?

I think he's saying that because L wanted to lynch you if AFJ was red.

But the problem with that plan was if we did follow L's plan and lynched AFJ, he would of probably flipped town, and we wouldn't have to lynch you.

So I don't think Foolishness is pretty confirmed.
Making history not reliving it.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 14 2010 17:43 GMT
#510
On June 15 2010 02:37 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 02:31 citi.zen wrote:
On June 15 2010 02:27 Foolishness wrote:
On June 15 2010 02:00 meeple wrote:
I'm down with RoL more than Vivi57... there's little/no case to be made for/against Vivi since he's so inactive.

To go by history, Vivi57 is usually inactive when he's townie, and very active if he has a blue role. Not as sure as when he's mafia, but I'd go for RoL just in case.

You're pretty confirmed too I guess, with A5J.

You mind explaining any of that?

If your discussion with L was all scripted you deserve the Oscar.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
June 14 2010 17:54 GMT
#511
man are we joking?
citizen hit at dark and get the godfather? sreiously?
LOL you should give us a good motivation of your move...You use the only shoot you get without evidence???
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 14 2010 18:26 GMT
#512
It"s not my fault you don't see it. Now read L's posts to find the other reds.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 14 2010 18:38 GMT
#513
On June 13 2010 07:47 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 04:46 flamewheel wrote:
On June 13 2010 04:07 meeple wrote:
On June 13 2010 03:00 MooCow wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:50 meeple wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:46 MooCow wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:25 meeple wrote:
On June 12 2010 12:56 L wrote:
On June 12 2010 11:51 meeple wrote:
On June 12 2010 11:35 L wrote:
[quote] Why exactly are you asking me instead of doing some thinking on your own?


lol well apparently you're the man with the plan... also I was asking the town. No need to get all defensive

I'm not being defensive. I'm wondering why you're purposely not answering your own question. This post hasn't really answered the question either, so feel free to get to it whenever you feel like doing some work.


It was a question to make people think and discuss... if they're both checking the same person (me?) then we can see which detective to trust and kinda follow their lead.

I think we should check on someone that we want to lynch to help find out the sanity level of the DTs.

So we should decide on someone soon because the night is almost over. ACTIVITY?!


The problem with checking someone that we want to lynch... is that they might turn up red and while that would bag up some red it also wouldn't tell us anything about the sanity of the cops.

Eh?! Getting a red like that is totally worth not knowing the sanity level of the DT's imo.

Besides it only slows the us down by a bit if we don't know the DT sanity level but it's a huge gain getting a mafia.

What do you guys think of Chez? If he is going to get mod killed from inactivity we can experiment on him. I hope not though because he seems like a fun mafia guy to play with.


Yeah you're right... it was just something that occurred to me.

I don't agree with lynching Chez on the grounds of inactivity though. If I have some time to go through posts I'll come up with more suspects.

Oh he's not inactive. He'll be working behind the scenes, plus there isn't too much to analyze on the first cycle...
chezinu is the charliemurphy of the mafia forum. there is no such thing as him "working behind the scenes" lol.

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 07:04 Radfield wrote:
Likelihood of dying tonight: High
trust me, you're not that important. on that point, only 1 person in this game is really "important" enough to warrant a kill without having claimed blue. and that person is L. when he's alive tomorrow, we have some serious questions to ask.

btw to those jumping on me for inactivity, i'm keeping up with the thread. i'm just not refreshing it every 5 seconds like i used to in previous games since i got burned out quickly by retarded flawed arguments. this game there just seems to be more spam though.
ok guys i had a lot of work the past weekend so i couldn't keep up with the thread as much as i would have liked. quoting my post on why L should have died immediately. good job citizen for actually pulling the trigger though. L was so scummy and the fact that he was alive was the biggest incrimination against him.

if citizen is playing his role right then A5J should flip red tomorrow. doesn't look like voting could swing in any other direction but go ahead and stack it against him anyways.

also, foolishness is probably not mafia aligned. radfield seems scummy or retarded, can't tell atm.
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
June 14 2010 19:05 GMT
#514
On June 15 2010 01:48 Radfield wrote:
List of fairly inactive players:

vivi57
redtooth
RoL
Ohn

I say we go after RoL first. He strikes me as moderately scummy, and is the scummiest looking player who voted for Jspazz.



On June 15 2010 02:00 meeple wrote:
I'm down with RoL more than Vivi57... there's little/no case to be made for/against Vivi since he's so inactive.


I'm fine with RoL too. I did an analysis on him a couple days ago:

+ Show Spoiler +

RebirthOfLegend

#232: promises activity
#237: supports plan "for the same reasons radfield said". Disagrees, however, with blues lying to mask their roles (vets claim detective, etc) because it creates confusions and "is a big no." RC's townie.
#240: more words saying blues shouldn't lie about their role. claims that L never once said to lie about your role when he indeed did (see page 13 of thread).
#257: points finger at me for a mistake in one of my posts (for some reason I thought for a second that millers lynched flip vanlilla townie instead of miller) and says that's mafiaish, citing his previous game where he played mafia and didn't read the rules carefully. LOL's at so many greens role claiming (well no shit there are going to be excess greens... what are mafia going to claim, red?).
#260: says the plan isn't that bad

Summary: RoL has a strange post history. All of his non-useless posts are in the same time period. The only real things he's done are advocate the plan (actually, he advocated the imaginary plan where blues DO NOT lie about their roles, then ended up advocating the real one later anyway) and arouse suspicion about me. 3rd to vote for jspazz. He also didn't bother to defend himself after I voted for him on day1. My read on him is an accuse-happy townie who has bad reading comprehension and/or not been keeping up properly with the thread.


I'm more suspicious of him now than I was back then. I mean, RoL just logged on once, posted for a couple hours in favor of L's plan, and never came back. Very strange.

Same thing for ohN btw: he hasn't posted in quite awhile and had some questionable posts when he did post.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 14 2010 19:09 GMT
#515
Ahaha. Amazing, citi.zen. XVI all over again.

Well, inactivity lynch I believe. Foolishness, you're a bro. L, you're also a bro. AFJ is also a bro.

Will be back before deadline, marking up my vote on a random inactive just in case. Vivi57 or RebirthOfLeGenD? Both are too damn inactive, just like in every other game. Lots to think about again.

I haven't seen RoL, but Vivi promised us some pbpa. Until I see that, my inactivity vote goes there.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 14 2010 19:13 GMT
#516
Voting for RoL for inactivity and all around suspiciousness.

I'll change it to whomever seems more appropriate later if needed.
Making history not reliving it.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 14 2010 19:17 GMT
#517
On June 15 2010 03:38 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2010 07:47 redtooth wrote:
On June 13 2010 04:46 flamewheel wrote:
On June 13 2010 04:07 meeple wrote:
On June 13 2010 03:00 MooCow wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:50 meeple wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:46 MooCow wrote:
On June 13 2010 02:25 meeple wrote:
On June 12 2010 12:56 L wrote:
On June 12 2010 11:51 meeple wrote:
[quote]

lol well apparently you're the man with the plan... also I was asking the town. No need to get all defensive

I'm not being defensive. I'm wondering why you're purposely not answering your own question. This post hasn't really answered the question either, so feel free to get to it whenever you feel like doing some work.


It was a question to make people think and discuss... if they're both checking the same person (me?) then we can see which detective to trust and kinda follow their lead.

I think we should check on someone that we want to lynch to help find out the sanity level of the DTs.

So we should decide on someone soon because the night is almost over. ACTIVITY?!


The problem with checking someone that we want to lynch... is that they might turn up red and while that would bag up some red it also wouldn't tell us anything about the sanity of the cops.

Eh?! Getting a red like that is totally worth not knowing the sanity level of the DT's imo.

Besides it only slows the us down by a bit if we don't know the DT sanity level but it's a huge gain getting a mafia.

What do you guys think of Chez? If he is going to get mod killed from inactivity we can experiment on him. I hope not though because he seems like a fun mafia guy to play with.


Yeah you're right... it was just something that occurred to me.

I don't agree with lynching Chez on the grounds of inactivity though. If I have some time to go through posts I'll come up with more suspects.

Oh he's not inactive. He'll be working behind the scenes, plus there isn't too much to analyze on the first cycle...
chezinu is the charliemurphy of the mafia forum. there is no such thing as him "working behind the scenes" lol.

On June 13 2010 07:04 Radfield wrote:
Likelihood of dying tonight: High
trust me, you're not that important. on that point, only 1 person in this game is really "important" enough to warrant a kill without having claimed blue. and that person is L. when he's alive tomorrow, we have some serious questions to ask.

btw to those jumping on me for inactivity, i'm keeping up with the thread. i'm just not refreshing it every 5 seconds like i used to in previous games since i got burned out quickly by retarded flawed arguments. this game there just seems to be more spam though.
ok guys i had a lot of work the past weekend so i couldn't keep up with the thread as much as i would have liked. quoting my post on why L should have died immediately. good job citizen for actually pulling the trigger though. L was so scummy and the fact that he was alive was the biggest incrimination against him.

if citizen is playing his role right then A5J should flip red tomorrow. doesn't look like voting could swing in any other direction but go ahead and stack it against him anyways.

also, foolishness is probably not mafia aligned. radfield seems scummy or retarded, can't tell atm.

A5J? Really? Are you reading the thread at all?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 14 2010 19:24 GMT
#518
On June 15 2010 01:48 Radfield wrote:
Wow wow wow. Either an amazing shot Citizen, or you're mafia and hoping to get all our roleclaims and allay all suspicion.

An extremely ballsy move actually, considering that if L flipped green, then we would certianly use the next lynch on you. Doubly hurting the town.


I'm still very ok with lynching AFJ, but if people don't agree I'm fine with that.

List of fairly inactive players:

vivi57
redtooth
RoL
Ohn

I say we go after RoL first. He strikes me as moderately scummy, and is the scummiest looking player who voted for Jspazz.

And to this... what % would you assign to the likelihood of me being mafia? Why would it make sense for me to kill the GF right now instead of a goon if I wanted credibility? Furthermore, there was no immediate danger of being lynched for either me or L, why not save the hit for later when it could be decisive /end the game?

You know I of all people love a good conspiracy theory, but give me a break - this one makes no sense.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 14 2010 19:29 GMT
#519
Finally: please go back and read L's posts. He left a thick paper trail, it's impossible not to find clues there. I still don't have much time for this game so may not get to it in time, but at this point we don't need shots in the dark - the evidence is in L's posts. Please read them.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
June 14 2010 19:29 GMT
#520
On June 15 2010 04:24 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 01:48 Radfield wrote:
Wow wow wow. Either an amazing shot Citizen, or you're mafia and hoping to get all our roleclaims and allay all suspicion.

An extremely ballsy move actually, considering that if L flipped green, then we would certianly use the next lynch on you. Doubly hurting the town.


I'm still very ok with lynching AFJ, but if people don't agree I'm fine with that.

List of fairly inactive players:

vivi57
redtooth
RoL
Ohn

I say we go after RoL first. He strikes me as moderately scummy, and is the scummiest looking player who voted for Jspazz.

And to this... what % would you assign to the likelihood of me being mafia? Why would it make sense for me to kill the GF right now instead of a goon if I wanted credibility? Furthermore, there was no immediate danger of being lynched for either me or L, why not save the hit for later when it could be decisive /end the game?

You know I of all people love a good conspiracy theory, but give me a break - this one makes no sense.


I've been thinking about the Dvig all game. It is like the perfect role! Once you use the hit, it makes no sense for either mafia or town to kill the Dvig no matter what align the Dvig has. Dvig is still a black role, right? If you look at the OP the mafia count only includes roleblock and/or GF. This means if there was a mafia Dvig then he wouldn't be considered part of the "mafia" and would only want the mafia to win.. So I'm watching you citizen though I would never kill you... lol.. not that I'm a watcher or anything... <.< >.>
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