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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 07 2010 18:32 GMT
#863
Gilaboy + Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2010 02:25 Thegilaboy wrote:
Go go gadget analysis! Random number generator created these individual's numbers for analysis.

8. MooCow
Plays the newbie card a lot, this much is true. He may actually be a legit newbie, but some of his questions are easily answered in the OP. Was hesitant about both our elected candidates, and repeatedly mentioned that mafia will almost certainly get someone in office. Does he still believe this, and if so who does he think is more likely to be scum between the two? You've warned us all to be weary of them, just wondering what your thoughts were on the matter still.

Started putting clues together at the start of Day 2. Does a good job here in both making connections to various profiles, while at the same time acknowledging that we shouldn't jump to conclusions so soon. Also understands our need to get active posters in order to get reads off of that. I'm interested in his earlier looks at zeks and wondering if you've thought anymore about that at all?

Sure he plays the newbie card, but hey this is a newbie game for the most part. My gut reaction right now is that he is pro-town. I'd like to hear more of his thoughts on suspecting our elects, and if he has anymore thoughts on zeks.


26. pyr0ma5ta
In the election he opted not to vote for YI or zeks as they had clues pointing to them. He even went so far as to say:
On June 04 2010 08:02 pyr0ma5ta wrote:

Yellowink, not only will not vote for you as mayor at this point, at this point I am leaning towards lynching you first.

Still feel this way pyr0?

Later on accused me of making a stretch accusation with the whole Tiny the Giant thing, but considering the fact that I've never played nor looked into Dota ever, I had no idea of the character's existence. That being said, he promptly decided he would vote for me. So it goes though, everyone is certainly free to vote as they see fit.

Began to argue against voting for Deuce, claiming that they are reasons some people stay off the radar. What interests me most though are he most recent posts, saying that we shouldn't be trusting our elects necessarily. I ask the same thing of you that I asked of MooCow, do you have any more specific thoughts on the matter. Besides just saying we should suspect them, at this point do you have anymore solid thoughts on the matter, or perhaps an individual you would like to focus on for analysis? Things like that could be very helpful for everyone, and I'd just like to know your opinion on the matter.

23. CompX
Here is a super inactive poster, who started our game with the bold claim that:
On June 03 2010 11:09 CompX wrote:
guys, I think ElyAs can be a mafia

His accusation was based on flamewheel dying from lightning, something that is a recurring theme is his games. Then suddenly poof, he's gone. Returns 600 some posts later to reiterate the fact that MooCow and Tyranos both have the same profile and could be linked to barth's death by their ability to defy the laws of physics.

And he returns to Elyas by taking a look at his death. Makes the call of attributing the death to a silent killer, and primary suspects are then myself and zeks in his eyes. He knows a lot about the character in zeks' profile, and he seems to be a ninja of sorts.

At this point in time I really would like to see CompX post more. I know he said he'll be inactive because of school, but a 600 post gap between he's thoughts is a bit much. I'm inclined not to trust him because of his very early call of accusing Elyas of being mafia, something that didn't hold any merit at all.


That's what I've got for now. Probably should take care of a few RL responsibilities right now

Yea I did have more thoughts on zeks and I have continually posts my thoughts and suspicious on that person. My later thoughts on Zeks.

On the thought of the mayor/pardoner the only reason I am suspicious of Darth is when we first started the game I remember LunarDestiny voting for Darth right away and a bandwagon was sort of created for him but he seems town for the time being.
I'm a bit more suspicious of YI as everyone was at the start but I still am. i thought this post was a bit weird in a sense that it seems YI is a bit strong in the sense that maybe he got Darth to lynch jiabung instead of Tyranos. YI post. We don't get to see the pm's between them but it's just a thought.

But as I said before I trust them for the time being.

Giving my thoughts on pyr0ma5ta randomed him.
First 3 posts in the thread he admits to being a newbie to the game and asks not to be lynch for voting too early.

He is suspicious of YI but votes for Darth given the choices but I also think this was bandwagon because Darth had so many votes.

He again remains wary of YI as Darth calls him out for making a huge statement of wanting to lynch YI.

He's one of the people that doesn't agree with lynching the inactive and wants to lynch a potential
mafia

He also, like me, doesn't want people to completely trust YI and Darth - post

My thoughts on him he might be trying to protect Deuce but he later concedes into lynching Deuce. I also don't think Deuce is mafia, probably just an inactive townie.
I think he's a townie that's just a bit paranoid about YI and Darth for probably the same reasons as me.
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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 07 2010 18:34 GMT
#864
Voting for Deuce due to his inactivity and he just seems like he doesn't want to be in this game.
AND pyr0ma5ta gets banned after my posts on him -_-;
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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 07 2010 19:24 GMT
#875
AFJ + Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2010 04:07 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
On June 08 2010 03:34 MooCow wrote:
Voting for Deuce due to his inactivity and he just seems like he doesn't want to be in this game.
AND pyr0ma5ta gets banned after my posts on him -_-;


Shit I hope pyr0ma5ta can still post in the mafia forum T_T

And voting for Deuce because he doesn't want to be in the game is not a good reason. That would imply that he's probably not mafia so we DONT want to lynch him. I'm trying to be civil here rather than yelling at you for saying retarded mafia-like things since your analysis of pyr0 was decent, I hope you appreciate it.

I am going to firmly state that I think we should figure out a more juicy target for today's lynching than deuce. If we can't come to somewhat of an agreement, then I am fine with deuce. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll flip red, meaning he's an absolutely retarded mafia and his team doesn't have control over him. But I find that event rather unlikely.

I suggest someone analyzes LunarDestiny's post history. He's had bandwagony voting behavior, namely recently for deuce, and gives a very weak reason for suspecting him as shown in my short exchange with him:


AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 20:32 LunarDestiny wrote:
AcrossFiveJuly, you have to accept that this is a mafia game for newer players and not everyone will be willing to keep up with the insane amount of reading.

I like to look at a poster's recent posts not just here but on Teamliquid. TyranoS_NiveK fits into the category of "I don't care about Teamliquid."


Then why are you so adamant about lynching deuce? He fits into that same category. Here are a few of your posts trying to get everyone to vote for deuce:

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 11:45 LunarDestiny wrote:
LaXerCannon, okay. If you say that the TheGilaBoys use both quality of Stalker and DT for his crime then this is all I have to say. But you have to agree that combining the quality of both character is possible but not likely.

If you compare reasons for lynching TheGilaBoys (very questionable clues but also a more useful poster) to lynching Deucegladlier (inactive and horrible posters, voting behavior between LaXerCannon, pyr0ma5ta, CompX, and Deucegladlier).

If Deucegladlier can step up and do some explaining and maybe even contribute, otherwise I say lynching Deucegladlier is a better choice.



Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 11:21 LunarDestiny wrote:
You have to agree that DeuceGladlier is a much better lynch target than TheGilaBoys.



On June 07 2010 22:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 21:10 LunarDestiny wrote:
On June 07 2010 20:53 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Then why are you so adamant about lynching deuce? He fits into that same category. Here are a few of your posts trying to get everyone to vote for deuce:


Deuce is not just a "I don't care about TL" guy. He makes somewhat decent posts on the damn K-pop forum.
He knows how to embed youtube video and also have the time to find animated GIFs to post on the DAMN K-pop forum.

I hate k-pop in general because they are bad. And some are so bad, that they are good.


In the K-pop thread, he has two posts on June 5th and one on June 7th. So basically just one post on teamliquid outside the mafia since the game has really started. I'd hardly call that someone active on TL outside mafia. I really think he's a terrible target at this point.


At the moment I'm suspicious of MooCow (less now) and people going after Deuce (8 people voted for him, there could easily be a few mafia mixed in there) because in my eyes he's such an obviously terrible target. And if he flipped green everyone on that list has the excuse that they are promoting active posting and thats why they voted for him.


Another reason i'm voting for Deuce is that if he was a mafia he would be doing enough to get pass the modkill and remain in the game.
I agreed with you in one of your earlier posts that I don't really think that Deuce is a mafia but just someone that's bored of the game but on the chance that he is mafia, good for us but if he isn't then I don't see how we would lose much because he doesn't do anything anyway.
I will say I have no problem changing my vote from Deuce to anyone else if there is strong evidence that the new suspect is indeed mafia.

But let's look at the possible candidates we have so far other than Deuce. We have
*MooCow (1 Vote - AFJ)
*TheGilaBoy ( 3 Votes - LaXerCannon, Compx and pyromaster(banned for 2 days) )

I won't vote for myself and at the start of day 2 I did some analysis on Gilaboy and even put him up as a possible mafia based on his clues/profile. I just don't think theres enough concrete stuff to vote Gilaboy and the people that did vote for him were made suspect by Lunar when he viewed their posting habit.
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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 07 2010 20:30 GMT
#886
@BB I don't think he really cares about staying in the game anyway.
On June 07 2010 04:54 Deucegladlier wrote:
You know, I think there are mafia members in this game.


And that post obviously drew a lot of attention and he voted for himself.

Everyone's been saying that Deuce is most likely townie and I agree, I think most people think that Deuce is a townie but imo i'm voting to lynch him because he's inactive, has a chance to be mafia and posting bare minimum to not get mod killed and we just don't have any other very solid candidates to lynch.

If we can find a solid target to lynch and leave him alone I wouldn't have any problems switching and in my previous posts and named all the candidates and my thoughts that has been voted to be lynched ( MooCow and TheGilaBoy).
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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 07 2010 22:14 GMT
#903
AFJ + Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2010 06:25 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Please, everyone who voted for deuce just because everyone else was and they didn't have a better person to vote for, consider changing your vote to MooCow. Notice that since I accused him he has been extremely neutral and going out of his way not to stir any trouble, and even did an "analysis" post. The vote has not been decided yet, there is plenty of time to switch.

What the hell does lynching deuce give us? At best, a red. But we all know that's a fat chance. So most likely he's going to flip green. What information can we glean from that? Not a godamn thing, since everyone voting for him has the excuse that they are trying to take out inactives. Let that fucker rot as dead weight for another day -- if he's town, letting him live isn't hurting us. If we vote MooCow and he flips town, at least there will be some interesting information to analyze afterwards (and I will look suspicious as hell, but I'm willing to take that risk).


So this is pretty weird imo...
After AFJ posts this saying i'm less suspicious and my "analysis" was decent enough for him to not yell at me he does this.

You first post about me on page 42 and we currently on page 43.
Page 42 - I defend myself
Page 43 - I say why i'm suspicious of Zeks and I also say i'm still suspicious of YI but getting less suspicious of Darth.
I give my thoughts on pyro and vote for Deuce.
I also say i'm suspicious of people with low activity and the people that voted for Gilaboy.
Page 45 - I explain clearly why i'm voting for Deuce and not weak targets.

The stuff above answers the spoilered posts. Now what's confusing is the time at which you came back to call me out and the people that are voting for me, other than you are DCLXVI and Misder. Both are low posters and posted close to each other. Misder also posts 2 minute right after you saying almost the same thing.
You accused LunarDestiny of doing the bandwagon thing and it seems like you're trying to create one right now.

But the most confusing thing is how much you're going after me. If i'm not mafia as you said yourself you'd would look suspicious but maybe you have a plan to come out of it. I'm starting to think you're mafia by trying to create bandwagons and as soon as you posted that the inactive people come in right after.
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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 07 2010 23:43 GMT
#908
On June 08 2010 08:09 BrownBear wrote:
I like AFJ's logic for moocow, so I will change my vote to him. I do not think it will really change much at this point though, unless enough people sign on again and read his logic.

It would be interesting to have everyone who leaves their vote on Deuce explain why they left their vote on Deuce. If nothing else, it would be good at rooting out the guys who log on once to vote and post and are then gone for the rest of the day.

Any thoughts on my rebuttal ? Just curious btw.. I believe I answered everything about what AFJ accused me of and even gave an argument against him.

I have no problem with you guys voting for me, fair enough but i'm just curious other than you just following AFJ.
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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 08 2010 02:19 GMT
#1005
chuckled quietly, damning the town under his breath!

At least there were some people smart enough to not jump on the band wagon!

This has nothing to do with the game but Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea~~!!
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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 14 2010 03:29 GMT
#1534
Whoa! It's over already?! GJ Townies!
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