On May 31 2010 13:20 L wrote: Ah look, day time. Time for a shootan.
Kill: Korynne
DTs, I hope you checked her as per my request, this should give you information regarding your sanity.
Roleclaims should start now; Onwards brosefs, to victory.
Purpose of shooting Korynne was so DT could check his sanity in a game that has no PMs and where public claiming would get him killed? DTs are pretty useless in a game with no PMs and a dead medic. Korynne was the only one proposing ideas about how we should organize ourselves as a town until L came along.
I think we already lost this but I'm shooting L tomorrow. Actually, I don't think I'm going to survive the night, someone else shoot him.
So yeah, the request for the SK to kill me was supposed to work if people claimed properly, but no one bothered. At that point killing me with the SK would have been a signal for the watcher to watch me, which would have gotten us the identity of the SK.
If the GF takes the shot tomorrow, we pretty much automatically lose the game, so we're pretty dead.
Can we analyze what happened. The tactics was pretty good. After Darth's death, Amber did the absolute correct thing by shooting Nikon since if Nikon was reading the thread and he is the SK, he would kill Darth who is about to kill him.
What happened: We just got raped because we spent 15 pages talking about me. I'm honestly quite flattered.
So I go to work...Come back...And all hell breaks loose again. You gotta stop this people.
Alright, reading through the thread, Lots of people pop out. Why was Chezinu killed? That kill doesn't seem to make any sense.
And everyone keeps forgetting of the possibilities of the mafia/Sk targetting etiher the bomber man (in the case of the mafia/sk) or the sk (in the case of the mafia). Of course we won't know who hit what, but that becomes a very real possibility as our numbers dwindle.
I personally feel tree.hugger seemed a little mafia with a post he made earlier. + Show Spoiler +
On June 01 2010 06:40 tree.hugger wrote: L is probably innocent, which is a real shame because once again he's the town's worst player.
Whatever you're motives were for shooting, and however smart or stupid your plan may have been, the point is that you didn't do anything with any kind of consensus, or any kind of agreement at all really. The town doesn't fall apart because people keep shooting other people—there's no reason to assume the mafia would shoot someone right off the bat to 'steal' a day kill from us—the town falls apart because people think they're smarter than everyone else, or they think that one person is hurting the town effort. Case in point; XeliN's vow to kill you tomorrow.
What I never liked about your plan was not solely the fact that it exposed our blues to night kills, (a point which should gain more attention, now that our medic is down, and I doubt we have another one) but also the fact that it relied purely on the intuition of a select group of people, (and by group I mean you, yourself, and your invisible friend Larry) and assumed somehow that they would be correct all the time. Your Napoleonic complex wouldn't have it any other way, I presume.
Rather, we should've been doing what I and a few others advocated from the start, which was choosing random people and assigning them to make the kill. We learn much more from that than we do from an idiot like you taking matters into your own hands.
But he could of very well just been mad at L. L does seem like he wants to really take charge this game.
And Chezinu was pretty lol.
About Radfields list: Well it seems like a good starting point (killer our watcher), so I dunno. It seems pretty obvious our blues think this is a normal game and don't realize it's important to claim, regardless.
So not high anymore. once again someone is killed with little to no explanation as to why... anyway I trusted the town enough to not bother insta shooting although I was sleeping anyway. I won't make the same mistake again L.
I have my head in my hands wondering how to salvage this game.
L, why on earth did you pick Nikon, a person in the middle of your inactive list, instead of saying "let's pick the highest one alphabetically" or something objective like that? I'm so annoyed right now because I know you're town but I also know that someone's going to shoot you because you're being so goddamn stupid.
On June 01 2010 23:20 motbob wrote: I have my head in my hands wondering how to salvage this game.
L, why on earth did you pick Nikon, a person in the middle of your inactive list, instead of saying "let's pick the highest one alphabetically" or something objective like that? I'm so annoyed right now because I know you're town but I also know that someone's going to shoot you because you're being so goddamn stupid.
Well, mostly because Nikon decided to take a trip on the AFK train and no one else bothered to talk about the fucking list for 2 pages. I wanted to get Darth confirmed via the shot, because I was pretty sure he was town and Lunar left him off the list mysteriously.
I didn't give the heads up for anyone else to take the shot, nor would I have shot nikon based on who died during the night.
But yeah, keep talking about me instead of looking for the mafia or third parties. Its pretty productive for growing my 12 inch e-penis ego, but not so much for winning the game.
I'd kinda like to be able to sift through players based on their positive contributions and game content because we know that mafia don't need to do anything to win this game, but half of our townies flat out refuse to do any work. So yeah, well played. Game's pretty fucked unless the mafia and SK find each other in a blazing fit of crazy during the next night.
L you seem to be taking this the wrong way. If you are legitimately town then it is YOUR fault that alot of the discussion has been about you due to how sinfully bad you've played. Your lack of coherent argument, analysis, direction, co-operation e.t.c.
Sure others would be at fault too for misinterpreting your complete failure as meaning you are mafia , but the blame in such a scenario would rest largely on you.
You have dominated the dicussion through your posting style and what you've posted and your now moaning about it and saying it is the towns fault. Innocent or Guilty you are an ineffectual nuisance this game
Guys I dropped the ball on that one. I was afraid that if we gave the godfather the chance to get a kill in we would not gain any valuable information. Don't shoot L because of this. I totally went rogue on this kill.
I also didn't want to have everyone role-claiming that they could "kill: ##." It sounds great but we're outing the players we need to keep in the game.
If you want to shoot someone shoot me for being an idiot, not L ffs.
And motbob if you want to save this game and if you truly believe L should not be shot then make sure people know before they get trigger happy. Don't sit here and let this stuff happen (like oh the past two days) if you want to do something about it.
There are 3 people who we ought to be discussing to shoot tommorrow.
They are Darth, L and Amber
Amber for the obvious reason of jump killing on someone L named with no argument whatsoever beyong him being inactive.
Darth for the dichotomous nature of his both avoiding being asked to Shoot L, yet jumping at the opportunity for a Nikon kill. His attitude recently has been suspect in my eyes although his role is one that is more determinable if we kill L and as such might be better to leave for now.
L hopefully for obvious reasons, but let me just say he has been given close to free reign this game in what he's been allowed to get away with, and so far every day kill has been picked by him.
On June 02 2010 00:01 XeliN wrote: L you seem to be taking this the wrong way. If you are legitimately town then it is YOUR fault that alot of the discussion has been about you due to how sinfully bad you've played. Your lack of coherent argument, analysis, direction, co-operation e.t.c.
Sure others would be at fault too for misinterpreting your complete failure as meaning you are mafia , but the blame in such a scenario would rest largely on you.
You have dominated the dicussion through your posting style and what you've posted and your now moaning about it and saying it is the towns fault. Innocent or Guilty you are an ineffectual nuisance this game
Its my fault that people ignore the plan and talk about me when I purposely give them information. That other players act without listening regardless? That actions taken by amber are being attributed to me?
Ok.
But yeah, keep talkin' about me. 13 inches and growing.
EPT
