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On May 21 2010 12:57 L wrote:
I'm not talking my way out of anything. I know you're straight up lying and that YT is trying to grab today's lynch vote. The only faction that could have known what you knew was one that had you and one that had a vig. Either you're the vig and decided the blocked hit was a good call, or you're in a team with a vig and you guys got angry in IRC when the hit didn't land.
If you were a neutral vig and took a shot at me you probably wouldn't have went ballistic.
Hence why I'm pretty sure you're in YT.
Except the fact whether I die or not you will follow or prove my innocents.
I don't think we should give you a chance to recruit more and you keep bringing up YT?
I Don't know which faction you're in but since you really like trying to put the YT on me like how you try to put mafia on innocent people in Mafia XV,
I can only guess you're really the YT leader [yellow]L[/yellow].
Everyone know [yellow]L[/yellow] is trying to escape this and will constantly try to aim at escape goats! Don't give him this chance. He will constantly lie and save himself till the vary end! Don't let this chance get away or otherwise you will be recruited in [yellow]L'sYellow Turban Faction[/yellow] and other faction leaders or others who will realize L's lie will eventually kill him and those who he recruited! Let's not sacrifice more neutral townies to [yellow]L[/yellow]!
Give me your armies and let us kill him and we will have another [yellow]Faction Leader[/yellow] killed!
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Sorry about the [yellow]'s i thought it would change the color to yellow.
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On May 21 2010 13:13 L wrote: But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that. You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain. I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT. Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me. Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same. So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though.
Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. Even if you did have a med and vig hit. Which I don't know why you would have 1 person decide to kill you and 1 medic decide to protect you out of no where.
You are obviously lying and trying to save your Faction Leader skin.
The biggest issue is I won't turn up what you claim because you are indeed not telling the truth. This is convincing me even more that you are possibly YT.
L you're lie can only take you so far. You're going to die no matter what. You know my death will prove your guilt cause of my some what DT ability.
With your death my innocence is proven and that is a guarantee of my abilities and your lies.
I am letting you know THIS IS A GUARANTEE NOT A RISK! L IS A FACTION LEADER! IF YOU LET HIM MANIPULATE YOU THIS TIME HE WILL CONTINUE TO MANIPULATE YOU AND RECRUIT YOU!!!
EVERYONE Know this, if L he does live, everyone else recruited by other faction leaders will know he is a faction leader if he continues to play. L will die and all he recruits will come down with him.
Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN!
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On May 21 2010 13:22 Iaaan wrote:
only problem I have with tricodes thing: Why did you decide to announce L's role to everyone if you are neutral? What did you hope gain from it? Makes sense if you are on someones team already, even if you do have detective abilities.
Hope? I mentioned before I like this neutral town thing killing off it's leader. It's more of a challenge and it makes the game more interesting in my opinion.
Killing leaders will be important, I think the faster we find them and give out information about who is a leader, the faster we can accomplish this neutral town goal of killing the leaders before they take us and play a game of tug of war and have a complicated match. Unless you would rather jump around from faction to faction.
With one more leader killed, that will bring us down to 3 leaders. That also means less people can get recruited and the greater chance to our town neutral victory.
Reducing the number of leaders makes this game less complicated. That's one less faction leader we have to think about.
Remember, killing a leader benefits everyone, but the leader and those who he recruits.
So the question should be, why wouldn't I announce L is a faction leader?
Also what purpose would I gain by lying? This isn't a traditional mafia game! L hasn't done anything to harm me and if i was in a faction I would only look for other leaders to kill anyways. Other wise I would want my faction to recruit more people to increase my chances of winning.
I hope that helped, if you have anything else to ask go ahead.
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On May 21 2010 13:41 L wrote: So, how doesn't that apply to you? I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/. Show nested quote +Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information.
I don't recall there being a role like insane dt since nothing like that was announced in the rules and nothing states how I can gain my sanity or figure out such a thing.
Other wise all dt's would be useless if you go with that logic.
Your logic is flawed. FAIL
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On May 21 2010 13:47 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 13:43 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:22 Iaaan wrote:
only problem I have with tricodes thing: Why did you decide to announce L's role to everyone if you are neutral? What did you hope gain from it? Makes sense if you are on someones team already, even if you do have detective abilities.
Hope? I mentioned before I like this neutral town thing killing off it's leader. It's more of a challenge and it makes the game more interesting in my opinion. Killing leaders will be important, I think the faster we find them and give out information about who is a leader, the faster we can accomplish this neutral town goal of killing the leaders before they take us and play a game of tug of war and have a complicated match. Unless you would rather jump around from faction to faction. With one more leader killed, that will bring us down to 3 leaders. That also means less people can get recruited and the greater chance to our town neutral victory. Reducing the number of leaders makes this game less complicated. That's one less faction leader we have to think about. Remember, killing a leader benefits everyone, but the leader and those who he recruits. So the question should be, why wouldn't I announce L is a faction leader? Also what purpose would I gain by lying? This isn't a traditional mafia game! L hasn't done anything to harm me and if i was in a faction I would only look for other leaders to kill anyways. Other wise I would want my faction to recruit more people to increase my chances of winning. I hope that helped, if you have anything else to ask go ahead. Oh, and this post is complete bullshit. Its amazing how you can make yourself look smart by posting walls of text. If L is a faction leader, and your are a DT, how long do you think it will be before you are recruited? Once you're recruited, why would you care about having a neutral player victory? You are either a liar, on a team already, or setting yourself up to be a powerful person to recruit. That or your just stupid.
Well, I could have been recruited either way the next few days. So does it really matter if i revealed my abilities or not? Even you can be recruited the next night? So should you stop helping kill leaders cause of that? I can't stop the inevitable, but in order to win this or try to, I should aim at killing the leaders as fast as I can. I played for the neutrals and myself.
Or would you rather me keep my mouth shut and not help in anyway until I'm recruited.
Like I said, it's in all our benefit to kill the leaders as soon as possible.
Plus now you know my abilities so I'm pretty sure faction leaders will all try to recruit me and will probably cancel each other out or the town will kill me latter.
I'd still like to see the town win. I find it much more interesting to see these leaders go down.
My question to you would be is your interest in killing faction leaders or joining them? If you want to kill them then I'm giving you a way to do so.
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On May 21 2010 14:07 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 13:47 Caller wrote:On May 21 2010 13:45 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:41 L wrote:Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. So, how doesn't that apply to you? I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information. I don't recall there being a role like insane dt since nothing like that was announced in the rules and nothing states how I can gain my sanity or figure out such a thing. Other wise all dt's would be useless if you go with that logic. Your logic is flawed. FAIL lol i didn't mention anything in the rules wheeeeee Sup Tricode. Getting desperate? Its easy to be a cool cucumber when you know you aren't lying like me :3. Your plan was pretty good too besides for the medic protection! That's why I know who's on your team. Pretty sure he'll try to make a push soon because he's scared. I'd prefer checking to see if you're neutral vig or insane DT, though, because that might mean I'm wrong :3. See, I know I'm legit. So If I die, we waste a turn, then if we kill you and you're vig or insane, we waste another turn. Then another 6 people have been recruited, and probably a few more vig shots fired, which means that at this point we'd essentially have zero way to win as neutrals. Given that I'd rather not chance my victory on getting picked into the right side, I think confirming what you are is a good idea.
The great part about this is, that's what I said about you and you're trying to take my words and throw it back at me.
Remember leaders main goals should be recruiting not killing off regular townies. The more townies they get the bigger armies they can have and better chances of killing off other leaders so they can win. So why would I want to do the opposite of that? Unless you're a FACTION LEADER.
Like I said. If I'm a insane DT i was not informed of this and seems like it would be something I would be told about and have a chance at least in being told how to make myself sane.
So you're just making BS! and trying to save your faction skin.
I'm going to divulge all information and knowledge I have to the town. Nothing to hide.
Also why would I lie if I was a vig or would even want to kill you if I was a vig? No point in doing so. I don't even see the reason to kill you before I found out you L WERE A FACTION LEADER.
You can't even give a good reasoning for that I bet for any of the questions I asked.
Everything you're saying is flawed cause you are LYING.
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On May 21 2010 14:22 L wrote:Show nested quote +Remember leaders main goals should be recruiting not killing off regular townies. The more townies they get the bigger armies they can have and better chances of killing off other leaders so they can win. So why would I want to do the opposite of that? Unless you're a FACTION LEADER. Are you seriously asking me why a grunt in the YT would call me a faction leader if he shot me and knew that the leader who had died thusfar had night armor? YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT. Not only would YT get a player to look like a legit DT that could be used to stall a turn or end the game, but you'd monopolize today's lynch and throw all suspicion off your leader for at least an entire cycle. Show nested quote +Like I said. If I'm a insane DT i was not informed of this and seems like it would be something I would be told about and have a chance at least in being told how to make myself sane. Caller JUST told you that you're wrong and you bring this up again? Lol. Show nested quote +Also why would I lie if I was a vig or would even want to kill you if I was a vig? Don't recall that earlier "L hates me" comment you made? Did you seriously just ask "IF I SHOT YOU, WHY WOULD I WANT YOU TO DIE?" You posted like 3 times prior to day 1 ending. All of your posts were spam besides the one that said that I hated you, yet you think you had no reason to try and hit me? Seriously, you're like a retarded pretzel with all of these contortions. You're enraged that your vig shot failed and that you didn't guess what I was. Pretty obvious.
LOL!
Caller stated nothing for one. Don't manipulate what Caller said.
This is what Caller said:
On May 21 2010 13:47 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 13:45 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:41 L wrote:Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. So, how doesn't that apply to you? I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information. I don't recall there being a role like insane dt since nothing like that was announced in the rules and nothing states how I can gain my sanity or figure out such a thing. Other wise all dt's would be useless if you go with that logic. Your logic is flawed. FAIL lol i didn't mention anything in the rules wheeeeee
Everything you had also just said is irrelevant and doesn't prove anything other then you're trying to put focus on me to try to delay the inevitable finding of you being a Faction Leader. Also what candidate was there for this day or who had any suspicion on them? No one! We had no candidates! You're the only candidate and suspicious person!
Everything you have said so far are lies and that's why your whole argument is flawed!
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On May 21 2010 14:44 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 14:31 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 14:22 L wrote:Remember leaders main goals should be recruiting not killing off regular townies. The more townies they get the bigger armies they can have and better chances of killing off other leaders so they can win. So why would I want to do the opposite of that? Unless you're a FACTION LEADER. Are you seriously asking me why a grunt in the YT would call me a faction leader if he shot me and knew that the leader who had died thusfar had night armor? YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT. Not only would YT get a player to look like a legit DT that could be used to stall a turn or end the game, but you'd monopolize today's lynch and throw all suspicion off your leader for at least an entire cycle. Like I said. If I'm a insane DT i was not informed of this and seems like it would be something I would be told about and have a chance at least in being told how to make myself sane. Caller JUST told you that you're wrong and you bring this up again? Lol. Also why would I lie if I was a vig or would even want to kill you if I was a vig? Don't recall that earlier "L hates me" comment you made? Did you seriously just ask "IF I SHOT YOU, WHY WOULD I WANT YOU TO DIE?" You posted like 3 times prior to day 1 ending. All of your posts were spam besides the one that said that I hated you, yet you think you had no reason to try and hit me? Seriously, you're like a retarded pretzel with all of these contortions. You're enraged that your vig shot failed and that you didn't guess what I was. Pretty obvious. LOL!Caller stated nothing for one. Don't manipulate what Caller said. This is what Caller said: On May 21 2010 13:47 Caller wrote:On May 21 2010 13:45 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:41 L wrote:Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. So, how doesn't that apply to you? I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information. I don't recall there being a role like insane dt since nothing like that was announced in the rules and nothing states how I can gain my sanity or figure out such a thing. Other wise all dt's would be useless if you go with that logic. Your logic is flawed. FAIL lol i didn't mention anything in the rules wheeeeee Everything you had also just said is irrelevant and doesn't prove anything other then you're trying to put focus on me to try to delay the inevitable finding of you being a Faction Leader. Also what candidate was there for this day or who had any suspicion on them? No one! We had no candidates! You're the only candidate and suspicious person! Everything you have said so far are lies and that's why your whole argument is flawed! Uh, I haven't lied at all. Caller just flat out told you you're wrong. I'm not trying to do anything. I want to kill you to confirm my suspicion that BC is the YT leader. I think there are probably 3-4 of you total. Probably 3 because one of you had a night hit. Because of that I'm expecting an attempt at a wagon, but we'll see if the real townies up and deal with this. As for the candidates; there were a few. MyHeroNoob was mentioned, for starters, but that's kinda irrelevant. If the medic wants to step forward and reveal himself to clear this up, that's his call, but I'm not in the least lying about having been shot tonight, and I'm not in the least lying about you having an incorrect rolecheck on me. You basically fucked up and outted yourself. This is why we used to have lynch the claimant as the meta during mafia 2, but then people got smart and stopped fake claiming. Then you thought you had a free fake claim because there is no role list and you thought I protected a vig hit because of night armor. You're at the point where you've been caught in a lie and you know you'll die if you don't get a train going soon because there's someone else (maybe 2 if your team's vig wants to pony you up?) that knows I'm telling the truth about what happened last night. Regardless, I'm going to sleep. Don't twist yourself into any more pretzels to justify your lies. Its probably bad for your back.
I think you should take your own advice then. Since after you're killed and my innocence will be easily proven. There is no escape for you and your lies.
He said he mentioned nothing in the rules about these special DT's your talking about or claim to exists. Also if they do exists, do you believe that the Dt's wont know if they have this sanity or possible insanity knowledge?
I'm in no point in where I'm caught in a lie you're just making things up now and digging yourself a deeper hole.
Killing you will help the town get rid of one more Faction leader, you L.
Don't forget L if by chance I die, the only thing to be confirmed is that You L are a faction leader!
MEDIC! If by the slim chance there was one who did do what L claims! Don't step up! You'll only hurt yourself by showing who you are and your abilities.
Which case you would be recruited by a faction if you do or you will probably be part of L's faction and die when he dies!
Medic if you do show up, you'll probably be recruited and if it's by L (so he can keep himself safe as long as possible) if he some how does survive, you two will eventually be killed off when it's proven 100% he is a Faction Leader! So please don't show yourself and keep your identity and yourself protected!
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On May 21 2010 15:08 L wrote:
Tricode, if you die the only thing that'll be confirmed is that you're either a massive troll, an insane DT, a vig, or any of those + YT.
So no, I'm not scared of you dying. I'll finish off with this:
Tricode, I waited a while to see if you would note something:
I've said that there are three people involved in this mess: A Vig. A medic. Me.
You claim that you're a DT. Okay. If you're a DT, then you'd probably have realized that if I'm telling the truth, there is a vig and a medic at play here. You, however, not for a single moment, ask the vig to step up. But why? Why wouldn't you do that? If you could show that there was no vig in the game, or that there was no medic, you'd be able to claim that I'm lying about that.
But you don't. You tell the medic to shut up because you know he'll validate my story and you ask nothing of the Vig after more than a page of back and forth.
Why?
Well its pretty obvious. You are, or are on the vig's team. Even the Insane DT can be ruled out because the insane DT would have wanted a vig to step up immediately for the town's sake.
Based on that, and the fact that you didn't even bother to question that there was a vig when I said there was one, or that the vig wouldn't come out because he was on your team, its pretty clear you're YT or vig.
QED. Nice try.
Oh I do think you're afraid of me dying, that's why you hoping a med comes out and announces something so you can recruit them, if there was even a med that is.
Here's a question, why would i care about the VG or Medic when I'm the DT? The VG AND MEDIC CANT PROVE YOUR ROLE!
The only thing they can do is say they protected you or tried to kill you. The fact is, I don't know who they are nor are they relevant in the matter of your identity!
Either or can't even tell me your identity which makes it pointless to ask them.
Which case, since I'm the DT I would be the person to know what your abilities are!
Also since I'm the DT, I know if you're lying or not and you're just full of lies!
Since I don't think I'm insane since nothing was mentioned about that when given my role. I'm going to throw that idea out of there being an insane DT or at least I know I'm not the insane dt since the only one who claims they exists is you.
The truth is it's not clear. Nothing you're saying is clear. You can't back up anything you say and to have those people come out would only cause harm to them if they're not part of a faction.
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On May 21 2010 15:28 L wrote:
If you aren't insane, then you're the vig.
Its pretty clear. If the vig steps up then he isn't you and when i flip legit he'll be on the block after you flip. That would take out half the YT team. If you were the DT you'd be GAGGING over the possibility of confirming your own role. Instead you're asking for the opposite.
You're lying and aren't asking the questions which a real DT would.
Was entirely certain that once you faked this claim you'd fuck up. And there you did. Now your team's pretty much dead. Well done on handing us the YT on a silver platter.
Once again: QED.
Sleep time.
I have no team, I'm neutral, unless you count my neutral fellow townies as my team. Then I haven't failed them and pointed you out a FACTION LEADER!
I don't need to ask questions, you're making up lies, flawed logic, and making up insane dt roles out of your own ass.
The reason I don't have to ask questions is mostly cause of how this game works. So just watching you play I decided to check you and pop you I find you're a Faction Leader.
Everything you said shows that your lying just by reading it.
Here's a question for you L. What makes you so special that VG comes after you and a Medic decides to protect you?
And the chances of that are slim in my opinion especially for this type of game. There is no benefit in protecting you or killing you at the time before it was found out you were a FACTION LEADER.
It only shows you're lying because you had to make up this story to protect yourself and your identity of being a Faction Leader.
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L, I know you want to go to sleep, but do to your fear of people realizing you're a Faction Leader and lying to keep yourself alive. I understand that it has become hard for you to go to bed and that is why you keep replying to my posts. But it's 2:40am here and I actually do want to go to bed now.
So good night everyone and please read these posts carefully and you will see through L's lies and how he is indeed a faction leader!
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On May 22 2010 00:05 Radfield wrote:
Consider if the YT's had a role checker, they would never have to fear about recruiting a leader, because they would always check a player one night and recruit him the next. And if they DO find a leader, they can bandwagon him in the thread, because everyone is so gung ho about killing off leaders.
The more I think about it, the more I think we should let L live for now, and really focus on hunting the YT's. But I'll think on that some more first.
Well, you're right about some of your posts previously, even when L dies and turns up to be a faction leader (could be YT, Sun Quan, or Liu Bei) it doesn't clear my name of anything, but it does lead to an equal compromise that we all want.(added a period fuck off) I'm not a complete newb, I have just been not playing for a while because of school which I have just graduated from.
My abilities are to check players abilities. L's matched Last Romantic's abilities and what Last Romantic's claims when killed.
Second, I'm not a troll, I have played mafia games before for those who don't know me.
Some of the veterans already know me.
What ever questions or information you guys want of me I'll give. When L flips YT, Sun Quan, or Liu Bei tonight I will offer my abilities to the town as long as I can do so.
Remember finding faction leaders and killing them will probably be the best bet in catching or killing a YT, you can't go for that 100% he has to be proven YT unless there is a DT with a different ability then mine who can do so.
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On May 22 2010 00:56 Abenson wrote:
Remember, no editing
Sorry, but i didn't think it would be a big deal if i put a period.
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On May 22 2010 01:09 Abenson wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 01:00 Tricode wrote:On May 22 2010 00:56 Abenson wrote:
Remember, no editing Sorry, but i didn't think it would be a big deal if i put a period. I really don't care if you put a period, but a picky and detail-oriented mod will probably warn you
Yeah thanks for the tip, I kinda forgot the way you're suppose to show you edit something.
I'm sure I'm fine with the period, but I'll avoid doing it just in case.
Thanks again.
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I have a bit of a confusion here would you all please clear it up for me?
1. there is this contradictory statement of this Lu Xun saying L and Myself are full of shit? Anyone find that odd? It's a stupid possibility, one of us is telling the truth and more evidence shows that L is indeed a faction leader.
2. What does the vig and medic have to do with anything about L's role? Let's say a vig did attack L and a medic did protected him. How does that not make L a faction leader especially if I'm the dt!
3. Who is this Lu Xun and how do you just go believing him over anyone else in the game? How do you know someone is not lying? For instance someone that L recruited last night?
Look evidence shows that L is a liar and a Faction Leader. You gain more information by killing him then me. You kill me you just lose a DT and then now you have to kill L who has more recruits to back him up.
You kill L and you either prove my innocence or I die like a fucking loser. This won't happen cause L is a faction leader.
So answer my questions please before you continue with who is this medic person and who is this VG? These two people have no possible way of knowing or checking L's role.
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On May 22 2010 03:44 Falcynn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 16:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
L's making fun because Tricode (is he new?) isn't aware dt's don't know their sanity? Keep in mind Tricode seems to of checked role, not alignment...L is simply a Faction Leader, not a Kingdom...so it's role not alignment. Alright, I just skimmed through the thread since six pages of long ass posts have come up since I went to bed last night, but I just wanted to check. Tricode you are aware of this possibility right? That you might be an "insane" cop in which case your guilty verdicts appear as innocent and vice versa. In case you're wondering, this is probably why some people think both you and L are full of shit. Anyways, gonna go back and read more in-depth.
No, i know one of us is full of shit and my claim L is. If you go back and reread the thread carefully you will understand what I'm talking about.
2nd, my ability doesn't state anything about being insane or such.
L is just making that shit up to confuse people.
Look for the final time, it was not stated that there is a sanity part in my role.
So Logic dictates that I'm a regular DT. Otherwise if there was a sanity factor Logic would dictate in some way or form I should be told or otherwise all DT's are useless in this game and pointless.
Now I want someone to even try to destroy the logic. It's fucking mathematical black and white.
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On May 22 2010 03:49 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 03:35 Tricode wrote:
I have a bit of a confusion here would you all please clear it up for me?
1. there is this contradictory statement of this Lu Xun saying L and Myself are full of shit? Anyone find that odd? It's a stupid possibility, one of us is telling the truth and more evidence shows that L is indeed a faction leader.
2. What does the vig and medic have to do with anything about L's role? Let's say a vig did attack L and a medic did protected him. How does that not make L a faction leader especially if I'm the dt!
3. Who is this Lu Xun and how do you just go believing him over anyone else in the game? How do you know someone is not lying? For instance someone that L recruited last night?
Look evidence shows that L is a liar and a Faction Leader. You gain more information by killing him then me. You kill me you just lose a DT and then now you have to kill L who has more recruits to back him up.
You kill L and you either prove my innocence or I die like a fucking loser. This won't happen cause L is a faction leader.
So answer my questions please before you continue with who is this medic person and who is this VG? These two people have no possible way of knowing or checking L's role. 1. Unless Caller is fucking around with phrase "You will not be notified if someone is hit or checked, nor will your target", I can't see how both of us can be telling the truth. You claim to have DT checked L, but my protection nullifies all night actions. Thus I know you are lying. 2. My protection overrides all night actions- this makes sense favour-wise because Lu Xun was great tactician. It wouldn't make sense for me to only have NK block ability. 3. ~Opz~ got my roleclaim day 1. Thus I cannot be making this up due to recruitment. If you are genuine in your claim, obviously you would survive getting checked by Abenson then we have firm reason to lynch L. So what is the problem?
1. Unless Caller is fucking around with phrase "You will not be notified if someone is hit or checked, nor will your target", I can't see how both of us can be telling the truth. You claim to have DT checked L, but my protection nullifies all night actions. Thus I know you are lying.
A. But when L dies tonight and shows he is a faction leader all his recruits go down with him. Have fun with that lie. You do know my death means L's death and his recruits which is now shown to be you too.
2. My protection overrides all night actions- this makes sense favour-wise because Lu Xun was great tactician. It wouldn't make sense for me to only have NK block ability.
B. You're just restating your claim in your first answer. We have no idea if you're lying, but we know you're trying to protect L and suspicion points to him being a faction leader.
I have no real benefit to gain from lying, but he does and he will die either case and you will be shown as a liar upon his death today or next time around.
3. ~Opz~ got my roleclaim day 1. Thus I cannot be making this up due to recruitment.
C. Unless you lied to him from the beginning. Meaning you and L are part of the YT and since BM is starting to make comments like L such as stating to ignore me which is completely different from how he acted in the beginning of the game. I can only guess you guys recruited him and there was more then one person in the YT. Though this can be wrong and you were the only one recruited and you're lying about your ability.
There is more to be gained by L's death. His recruits are already trying to protect him by even lying.
Once he dies, his faction and group goes down. If he is indeed YT then that would explain a lot and the force that people feel most threatened by will be eliminated.
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On May 22 2010 04:05 Hesmyrr wrote:
So this is the plan. Vote BrownBear, lynch Xelin. We sic Abenson on the Tricode at the night.
Uh no, kill FACTION LEADER L prove everything I am saying is true BEFORE L RECRUITS MORE PEOPLE!
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Oh someone asked me for my name. I don't know if it matters and mind you I'm at a disadvantage about names since I never played, read, watched, or did w/e with anything related to this game, movie, film, video game, and book.
I'm Lu Meng.
My abilities are to look at night and see other people's abilities. Meaning I can find out anyone abilities. L's abilities were already mentioned and the key thing is he can recruit.
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