Well I know I'm not mafia. =\
I get kinda the same vibe from foolishness as I did from the other few people we lynched, as in like it feels like they're innocent.

But I really can't see how it's citi.zen. =\ That would be so lame... especially considering the fact that mafia would've had to go like 12 12.

Any last words Foolishness? D= (I mean if I was mafia you'd be dead by now, so like I think that makes me innocent? >.<)

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 12:15 GMT

#982

If you are red korynne you are incredibly awesome. I mean... from the post about the roleblocker to the choice of 5 as your second number when all reds thus far chose 1 - it would all have to be an amazingly deep game. And if I go there I can persuade myself of anything ( hello Qatol).

Foolishness on the other hand I can easily see as red. From the first post about qatol crying after he got outsmarted to the last two posts, leaving himself room to vote for me if korynne will - it's all pretty scummy.

I'll take the simple explanation for once.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 12:23 GMT

#983

Oh, I didn't mention foolishness ' defense. Qatol asked for zonal and Hobbes to be killed. In red letters. I have no idea how you can ever try to take credit again and again. You merely went along with what seemed inevitable.

Korynne

Canada990 Posts

May 10 2010 13:40 GMT

#984

Well I'm confirmed green since I didn't vote for Foolishness. So Foolishness, do you have any argument for citizen or should I hammer you now?

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 10 2010 17:25 GMT

#985

For you citizen:

On May 08 2010 12:05 Qatol wrote:
Ace, Hobbes hasn't posted in something like 2 days 6 hours. Zona hasn't posted in almost 2 days. Can we get a warning or something here?

On May 08 2010 12:07 Foolishness wrote:

Show nested quote +

I like just killing them both.

I said to kill them, Qatol said give a warning. 3 hours is hardly anytime to post.

On May 10 2010 21:15 citi.zen wrote:
If you are red korynne you are incredibly awesome. I mean... from the post about the roleblocker to the choice of 5 as your second number when all reds thus far chose 1 - it would all have to be an amazingly deep game. And if I go there I can persuade myself of anything ( hello Qatol).

Foolishness on the other hand I can easily see as red. From the first post about qatol crying after he got outsmarted to the last two posts, leaving himself room to vote for me if korynne will - it's all pretty scummy.

I'll take the simple explanation for once.

How does a choice in a second number reflect innocence?

I think you're misinterpreting me not voting. I asked Korynne if she had any inclination to you being mafia, and I gave my reasons why I don't think you are mafia. I'm analyzing all sides of this puzzle because I'm innocent. Yes, I've been harping on Korynne all game, so of course she's still my number one pick, but I considered you as an option in case I got ahead of myself.

That said, Korynne hardly said anything in regards to you except "Yeah, I agree, I don't see how citizen is mafia". Don't you think it's odd that she's not taking it into consideration? Her attitude is "hurry up lets kill Foolishness", and not "Well I'm nearly certain it's Foolishness, but let's make sure citizen is legit as well". I wasn't trying to get Korynne to vote for you, I'm trying to figure things out.

Also, you seem to imply that this was my "plan" of some sort, to try to get you lynched. Considering you have voted for Qatol to be lynched for 2 days this game, wouldn't it make more sense for me to kill Korynne and leave Qatol alive (I vigi'd Falcynn incase there was any confusion) and then try to convince you "yeah Qatol's sure scum, you are right"?

This brings me back to my original point that if I was mafia none of my actions (particularly my kill choices) make sense. I've already laid out that if I was mafia, Zona being alive gave us a really really good chance of winning, and I would have no reason to throw that away given how much suspicion I was under. The night kills don't reflect what I would be doing if I was mafia; all the night kills just point more and more fingers at me. Isn't it a bit odd for me to incriminate myself? It's because I'm town.

On May 10 2010 22:40 Korynne wrote:
Well I'm confirmed green since I didn't vote for Foolishness. So Foolishness, do you have any argument for citizen or should I hammer you now?

I don't see how this means you're green. Please explain.

On May 10 2010 20:45 Korynne wrote:
Well I know I'm not mafia. =\
I get kinda the same vibe from foolishness as I did from the other few people we lynched, as in like it feels like they're innocent.

But I really can't see how it's citi.zen. =\ That would be so lame... especially considering the fact that mafia would've had to go like 12 12.

Any last words Foolishness? D= (I mean if I was mafia you'd be dead by now, so like I think that makes me innocent? >.<)

Another point I'd like to bring up about your last paragraph here. If you were mafia you wouldn't kill me because you know the town wants to lynch me. Also, you killing me at night is basically telling the town that you are mafia (think about it this way. I make a bunch of posts saying why I think Korynne is mafia. I press the fact that I think Korynne is mafia into the next day. Then I turn up dead after night.) It's really common idea for the mafia to try to kill those who want them dead. Last year's summer mafia game, the mafia killed myself and Caller first night because we both thought Pyrry was mafia (and he was). The difference is this late in the game you can't kill those who are calling you out because it makes you look really sketchy.

And now I don't even know why I mentioned all this. Why would Korynne kill me if she knows the town is probably going to lynch me? Would you have killed me last night if you were mafia? Of course not.

I'll be back later to say more.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 17:37 GMT

#986

On May 10 2010 22:40 Korynne wrote:
Well I'm confirmed green since I didn't vote for Foolishness. So Foolishness, do you have any argument for citizen or should I hammer you now?

Of course, this means nothing.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 17:55 GMT

#987

On May 08 2010 18:18 Korynne wrote:
Also, Bill posting that would be pertinent to whether there was a roleblocker no?

We could all be sitting around saying omg did he get roleblocked for half a day...
And probably came to the conclusion that there must be a roleblocker because why would BM not invent something? So then something regarding me or Foolishness being lynched probably because of that. Or at least some kind of using the fact that roleblocker was taken into consideration for lynching.

Yes, it's out of thread. But it did happen. What do you two think about it?

Korynne

Canada990 Posts

May 10 2010 18:14 GMT

#988

What do you mean this means nothing? Citi.zen voted for Foolishness, if I was mafia, I would vote for Foolishness and then win the game. What's there not to get here... so clearly I am now town and Foolishness should present his case against citi.zen, because clearly you're the main suspect here.

What do I think about it? Foolishness obviously is compvig, this was confirmed when BM said he is inventor. I was sitting around going well why would what bill said mean anything, and then realized that it has something to do with a roleblocker, hence I pointed that out in the ban thread since BM seems to keep saying his post doesn't tell town anything.

Like I said, if me not voting for Foolishness immediately after citi.zen votes for him doesn't clear me as townie, I don't know what would other than lynching me. -.-

Korynne

Canada990 Posts

May 10 2010 18:16 GMT

#989

Also, it would only make sense for citi.zen to take roleblocker if Foolishness was mafia and passed that role down. And since only one of you two is mafia, then that's clearly not possible.

Not much to it there... I responded to that a while after it happened because it took me a while to think about why it would even make a difference if BM said that.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 19:22 GMT

#990

When I saw that roleblocker passage I actually thought a red would never mention the possibility openly. Making Korynne rather unlikely to be red.

Not going to change my vote. Looking forward to seeing the flip tonight!

Korynne

Canada990 Posts

May 10 2010 19:28 GMT

#991

Well now that citi.zen is settled.

#1 Foolishness convince me why citizen looks more suspicious than you.
#2 We lynch Foolishness today.

Looks like I get to be the confirmed townie that gets to decide if we win or lose this game, woo. >_>

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 19:42 GMT

#992

You are far from confirmed, but I do think Foolishness is more likely to be red. We will soon see.

Korynne

Canada990 Posts

May 10 2010 19:44 GMT

#993

Oh my god citizen! What do you mean I am far from confirmed. Do you not get what I said??

You already voted for foolishness. If I am mafia, I can vote for foolishness right now, or like 5 hours ago, and the game is over. Mafia wins. Therefore since I have not voted for foolishness yet, that means I am not mafia. Why is this such a hard concept for people? >.<

Korynne

Canada990 Posts

May 10 2010 19:47 GMT

#994

There is 0 usefulness in me sitting around arguing if I can just vote for Foolishness and win as mafia...

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 19:53 GMT

#995

You are right - I had forgotten about the "day ends when majority is reached" rule. Good. I made the right choice.

GG Foolishness and well done Korynne.

Korynne

Canada990 Posts

May 10 2010 19:59 GMT

#996

What do you mean well done. >_>

You're the one that hastily voted for Foolishness xD. So either way it's you who would have caused me to win as mafia or cause us to win as town, if you are town. xD

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 20:10 GMT

#997

On May 11 2010 04:59 Korynne wrote:
You're the one that ~~hastily~~ correctly voted for Foolishness xD.

There. My work here is done.

Korynne

Canada990 Posts

May 10 2010 20:19 GMT

#998

Well sure, it could be correct, but it's still hasty. =P

Just waiting to hear from Foolishness before the hammer falls.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

May 10 2010 20:29 GMT

#999

In retrospect, Ace should have waited until after the game to add Bill to the ban list. He sort of compounded the problem by immediately drawing attention to it.