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On March 28 2010 05:00 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2010 04:26 Ace wrote:
what? assume one of the active players is Mafia?!?!??!
Explain how this makes sense?
So ok. Myself and citizen are the most active players. You guys lynch me and I flip green, then citizen being the only active poster is killed and flips green.
So what do we do next? It's not an issue. If the town screws up this lynching the game is over. I've discussed why before. Why I continue to think Ace is the best candidate: wrong on the vivi argument; keeps ignoring posts, preferring vagueness and calling me "scummy" instead of discussing anything of substance. That said, Ace is known to be impatient with bad players (vivi?). Also, if he is green and accused by me it's only natural he would feel I'm red. So in the end I feel there is a 50% chance Ace is red. This sucks, given it's now or never. Still, picking someone else would be even more of a crapshoot. The hugely lucky Mafia + inactive town means there is nothing more I can do.
and this is the bullshit I'm talking about.
TOWN PAY ATTENTION!
1.) I am not wrong on the vivi argument. You asked my opinion and I stated it. How is it that all of a sudden it's purely wrong even though you voted for Vivi? Whether you were at work or not isn't even a relevant excuse. We can't prove that. The point is YOU had a vote on the dead medic so you are responsible just as much as I am.
2.) Keep ignoring posts? I respond to your accusations every time and in fact have proven you wrong. Remember how you claimed being your posting level is keeping the game active, but when I said the same thing you just blew it off?
3.) Not discussing anything of substance? Hello? I'm the one trying to keep the game going. You've asked me about Vivi, RoL has tried to have some sort of lopsided discussion with me and I've posted about everything from lynching lurkers to lynching unproved claimers. Your statement here is a lie.
4.) You say there's a 50% chance I'm mafia and it's now or never. So you aren't even sure I'm mafia and yet you think it's better to lynch me because picking someone else would be a crapshoot. Well isn't lynching me a crapshoot if you aren't even sure?!
##vote citizen
I'm convinced citizen is scum. Even more so by the fast vote out of no where by RebirthofLegend. Then after 40 hours of being afk nemy (o hai!) shows up with a bs vote on me. That's 3 votes on me and no votes on anyone else since the day post and no one else finds this suspect? You're kidding right?
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This actually good - I feel better about voting for you since you are wrong on every single one of the 4 sub-points. I'll explain tonight... we'll go through these arguments one more time, slowly, even though most have been covered already. No. 4 is new material though, and doesn't make you look very good.
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citizen// I hope you make your arguments soon b/c I am going to have to make decision sooner or later.
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Placing vote now because I might not be here tomorrow.
##vote citi.zen##
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Apologies for the wall of text. If you are town, please do try to read it sometime in the next day, before you cast your vote.
Statement 1.
Ace: 1.) I am not wrong on the vivi argument. You asked my opinion and I stated it. How is it that all of a sudden it's purely wrong even though you voted for Vivi? Whether you were at work or not isn't even a relevant excuse. We can't prove that. The point is YOU had a vote on the dead medic so you are responsible just as much as I am.
I stated repeatedly, that in my view it was wrong to lynch someone who claimed blue on day one. I still think in this game the downside to lynching someone who claimed blue >> that the upside to going ahead with the lynching. You disagreed, and still do. This is where I think you are wrong.
Note that this is not primarily a discussion about actions, but about strategy / reasoning. This could be an honest mistake, of course. By itself it proves nothing, everyone makes mistakes.
Statement 2.
Ace: 2.) Keep ignoring posts? I respond to your accusations every time and in fact have proven you wrong. Remember how you claimed being your posting level is keeping the game active, but when I said the same thing you just blew it off?
That paragraph has two misleading claims in it.
2.) a. On ignoring posts - this was a direct reference to the fact that you repeatedly stated I could have saved Vivi. Example:
Show nested quote +On the other hand YOU could have saved him. You didn't change your vote and now want to make it look like I'm at fault. I've stood by my decision wholeheartedly while you are not even acknowledging you yourself are a cause of his death. More sketchy logic/selective reading. Of course, I already answered this in detail, twice in fact, and directly to Ace. Yet he continues to "forget".For the sake of playing along, here is what I said: Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 11:50 citi.zen wrote:On March 26 2010 11:43 Ace wrote:My reasoning is simple. I think Vivi is terrible. If you look at games Vivi plays he never helps the town. He just criticizes everyone and bitches and moans. This thread has only 7 pages and he's managed to accuse at least 3 people?! How is that good town play? Even with the last minute roleclaim he looked shoddy. When you are being band wagoned the last thing you'd want to do is accuse multiple people - they'll tend NOT to take their votes off of you in that case. Then again, your vote is on him too. Why didn't you switch?  You could have voted for Johnnyspazz and tied it up, hoping someone else switched their vote too. What was your reason for not switching, because we all know I wasn't going to move my vote anyway. As far as I go, he claimed medic at the wrong time: I left work, came home and spent time with the family, until the kid went to sleep.When I did see his post and had time to digest it I decided it made sense to switch. Unfortunately it was too late. I don't get how other people who were active in this and/or the other mafia game during this time did not reach the same conclusion. It's pretty rare to lynch someone who claims blue, in any mafia game, no? Ace, haster27, Fishball, Abenson, johnnyspazz (other thread) were all active after Vivi's claim but missed that.
Had you simply said you did not truest my explanation, I could have accepted that. Instead, you kept repeating in a matter-of-fact manner that I "could have saved Vivi". More deliberate confusion, as far as I can tell.
2.)b. Ace saying I blew off his claim to being very active. I addressed it directly:
Of course, "game activity drops" if you take any posts out of the thread. This is a moot point, different from my stronger claim: Show nested quote +On March 27 2010 11:42 citi.zen wrote:
I'll say this: take my posts out and you have nothing going on in this thread. Make up your own mids what, if anything, that means about my alignment. This is of course my own assessment - you all need to make up your own minds here.
Statement 3.
Ace: 3.) Not discussing anything of substance? Hello? I'm the one trying to keep the game going. You've asked me about Vivi, RoL has tried to have some sort of lopsided discussion with me and I've posted about everything from lynching lurkers to lynching unproved claimers. Your statement here is a lie.
Here Ace is responding to my statement that he repeatedly called me "scummy", which is a gimmicky way to make someone sound suspicious. Instead of substantiating his accusations he tries to deflect again and starts talking about Vivi, Rol, etc.
I'll put under the spoiler the consistent use of "scummy" I had in mind - Ace has been using it on me from day one.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 24 2010 14:02 Vivi57 wrote:
I'm skiing (like I said, i'd be v/la until thursday) so I'll probably make this post tonight then one post tomorrow night and start being more active thursday night.
Right now, citi.zen is my most pro town read. He's doing a ton of crap and moving around votes to get discussion started and also attracting attention to himself. Both of these are something scum doesn't want to do.
Right now, I think my suspicion is on fishball. He posted a random OMGUS vote on nemy which in fine, but then he (jokingly) defended it
I really don't like fishball right now, but since I have a bigger suspicion, I'm going to call FoS: Fishball
As for my main suspect. Johnnyspaz just placed a random defense of me in the OMGUS stage of the game then placed a super late random vote on nemy. At that point, he should have come up with a decent reason because some discussion had occurred.
##vote johnnyspazz## On March 24 2010 14:12 Ace wrote:
Vivi you are so bad it's ridiculous.
"he's doing a ton of crap and moving votes around" - doing stuff is null and moving votes around is usually scummy. It's so early and not enough people have wagons on them so there isn't too much sketchiness about switching votes. However indecisiveness is usually meaning you can't make up your mind about something or just dont want to stand your ground, the latter of which is usually scummy.
The read on fishball is cool, but knowing that guy he voted for nemy for the lulz. On March 27 2010 12:43 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2010 11:42 citi.zen wrote:
Right... Vivi got medic and Versatile DT. Solid.
@ Ace - I am not surprised at all. I argued with two people: Versatile and yourself. She died. I look suspicious. You are alive. As stated multiple times, I also disagree with your statement that lynching Vivi was the right call, even after you saw he claimed medic. It's all in the thread, town-aligned players would read those exchanges.
I'll say this: take my posts out and you have nothing going on in this thread. Make up your own mids what, if anything, that means about my alignment.
If we screw up the day 2 lynch it's 3 v 2 on day 3, so all 3 town players would need to agree to vote for the same red player. Maybe it's time to start contributing.
##Vote Ace## You already know just like everyone else that Vivi claiming Medic wasn't going to change my vote. I've already explain that. So saying "even when you saw Vivi claim medic" isn't helpful at all. On the other hand YOU could have saved him. You didn't change your vote and now want to make it look like I'm at fault. I've stood by my decision wholeheartedly while you are not even acknowledging you yourself are a cause of his death. Likewise if you take my posts out of this thread game activity drops also. How does that make you more innocent than anyone else? @Fishball: Yea I know Verse better than anyone. Doesn't mean it's my fault she's dead. The more I read citizen's posts the more scummy he comes across. He points out that he argued with Versatile, she died, and he looks suspect. As if the notion of admitting he might be scummy clears him in my eyes. On March 28 2010 03:56 Ace wrote:
And yes I think citizen is scummy but for fear of lynching an innocent due to lack of activity I'm unvoting. We need more participation. I'd rather go into the night with a no lynch and 1 dead townie and possibly two dead townies for Day 3. By the way, read that last post again - it's worth it.
Statement 4.
4.) You say there's a 50% chance I'm mafia and it's now or never. So you aren't even sure I'm mafia and yet you think it's better to lynch me because picking someone else would be a crapshoot. Well isn't lynching me a crapshoot if you aren't even sure?!
The 50% chance Ace is red is clearly a subjective number based on my personal impression. Note this is not the part Ace takes issue with. He wants to know why, given this 50% number, I think it is better to lynch him than to choose at random someone else. This is why:
Other than myself and you, there are 5 other players left. The chance of picking a red by choosing randomly between the other 5 is: 50%*(1/5) + 50%*(2/5) = 30%. Since 50% > 30%, lynching Ace is the best I can come up with. It's "the better crap-shoot", if you will.
Now, in this game we do have the no-lynching alternative. Interestingly, Ace voted for it briefly, before going back to voting for me. I don't see how a no-lynch helps the town, we would be in the same exact spot day 3, but it would be 4v2 instead of 5v2. Unfortunately there is no activity in the thread and the DT is dead.
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nemY being in the bottom bracket which I mentioned before, and his out of nowhere behavior draws my attention.
I'm inclined to vote him or citi.zen, or maybe even RoL.
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That's 3 votes on me and no votes on anyone else since the day post and no one else finds this suspect? You're kidding right?
i find this suspect!
##Vote citi.zen##
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On March 28 2010 13:58 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +That's 3 votes on me and no votes on anyone else since the day post and no one else finds this suspect? You're kidding right? i find this suspect! ##Vote citi.zen##
It's suspect alright: there are only 2 reds in this game, yet he's accusing 3 people at once.
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i think nemY's vote for ace is hilarious
"holy shit we lost both blues already that means the mafia must be hella good. oh wait! ace is a gosu player! must be his doing."
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On March 28 2010 03:56 Ace wrote:
And yes I think citizen is scummy but for fear of lynching an innocent due to lack of activity I'm unvoting. We need more participation. I'd rather go into the night with a no lynch and 1 dead townie and possibly two dead townies for Day 3.
How does this suggestion not bother anyone else? Going into the night with a no lynch makes it 4 v 2 on day 3. No DT = no sure lynch. Also, the two mafia votes count more and more as there are fewer townies.
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On March 27 2010 12:11 Fishball wrote:Remaining Player listRebirthOfLeGenD Ace citi.zen Fishball haster27 johnnyspazz nemY 7 players left, 2 are Mafia. I know I'm green, so that leaves me with 6 choices. If I vote randomly, there is a 33% chance I will hit a Mafia. Now lets take a look at the order of Zona's list of players. Show nested quote +On March 21 2010 10:42 Zona wrote:
Player list
1. Abenson replaced by RebirthOfLeGenD (aka rol)
2. Ace
3. citi.zen (aka: citizen)
4. Fishball
5. haster27 (aka: haster)
6. johnnyspazz (aka: johnny, jonny, or jonnyspazz)
7. nemY
8. Versatile (aka: vers) the detective, killed Night 1
9. Vivi57 (aka: vivi) the medic, lynched Day 1 As pure speculation, it would be fair to say there will be a Mafia in 1-3 and another one in 5-7. Granted, this is purely speculation, as we already have 2 blues at the bottom of the list, and Zona might not have used the exact order to generate roles. There is a good chance that either Ace or citi.zen, that one of them could be red. This thread citi.zen has posted the most, with Ace being second. Versatile haven't posted much at all, just like me, Nemy etc., yet she was hit. Why? Previous history? Ace definitely knows her more than anyone else here. Random hit? Could be anyone. How random can this be? Of course people can say, "What if you are lying? What if you are Mafia?". Well to those 4 other Townies out there, you know who you are. I don't need you to believe what I say, but I want you to be aware of the situation.
Long post saying... that since you are in the middle of the alphabetical player list, you must somehow be innocent? And that there maybe is a mafia in slots 1-3, and another in slots 5-7 (surely not 4 though!) - even though the blues were both bottom of the list? You've lost me.
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On March 28 2010 14:26 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2010 13:58 johnnyspazz wrote:That's 3 votes on me and no votes on anyone else since the day post and no one else finds this suspect? You're kidding right? i find this suspect! ##Vote citi.zen## It's suspect alright: there are only 2 reds in this game, yet he's accusing 3 people at once.
I really lol'd at that pretty hard too.
You guys are crazy, no idea why you are voting Citizen.
Fishball, I don't see what I did suspicious. I had just finished reading the entire thread then responding in what I saw as a decent analysis on the situation. I get how my post may have been confusing but I think if you reread it a couple of times you can understand my reasoning. I think its relatively strait forward.
I am pretty sure Ace is mafia. I could say I am 100% sure but I am clearly not the DT. I get it might be harder to read me because I haven't been here for 24 hours, but still.
Does anyone else see why lynching the roleclaiming blue Day 1 is bad overall? There is a significant chance the mafia would trade a red for a blue which benefits us.
Now onto Vivi's role claim. I don't blame anyone for not changing votes because of his claim, or even the arguments around it besides possibly Ace justifying still killing the blue (even though that benefits the mafia) if I remember correctly.
Vivi just claimed so late that there was no time to actually talk about the claim and decide how to progress. I think he was dead before he had even claimed. There was like 30 minutes before the voting deadline where he IMPLIED he was blue.
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On March 28 2010 15:17 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2010 12:11 Fishball wrote:Remaining Player listRebirthOfLeGenD Ace citi.zen Fishball haster27 johnnyspazz nemY 7 players left, 2 are Mafia. I know I'm green, so that leaves me with 6 choices. If I vote randomly, there is a 33% chance I will hit a Mafia. Now lets take a look at the order of Zona's list of players. On March 21 2010 10:42 Zona wrote:
Player list
1. Abenson replaced by RebirthOfLeGenD (aka rol)
2. Ace
3. citi.zen (aka: citizen)
4. Fishball
5. haster27 (aka: haster)
6. johnnyspazz (aka: johnny, jonny, or jonnyspazz)
7. nemY
8. Versatile (aka: vers) the detective, killed Night 1
9. Vivi57 (aka: vivi) the medic, lynched Day 1 As pure speculation, it would be fair to say there will be a Mafia in 1-3 and another one in 5-7. Granted, this is purely speculation, as we already have 2 blues at the bottom of the list, and Zona might not have used the exact order to generate roles. There is a good chance that either Ace or citi.zen, that one of them could be red. This thread citi.zen has posted the most, with Ace being second. Versatile haven't posted much at all, just like me, Nemy etc., yet she was hit. Why? Previous history? Ace definitely knows her more than anyone else here. Random hit? Could be anyone. How random can this be? Of course people can say, "What if you are lying? What if you are Mafia?". Well to those 4 other Townies out there, you know who you are. I don't need you to believe what I say, but I want you to be aware of the situation. Long post saying... that since you are in the middle of the alphabetical player list, you must somehow be innocent? And that there maybe is a mafia in slots 1-3, and another in slots 5-7 (surely not 4 though!) - even though the blues were both bottom of the list? You've lost me.
Either your comprehension skills are bad, or you're trying to make a play.
I said I know I'm green, but I also said I don't expect everyone to believe me. I could very well be red in another player's eyes. I don't get what you're trying to pick at.
I've made up my mind.
##Vote citi.zen##
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On March 28 2010 15:16 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2010 03:56 Ace wrote:
And yes I think citizen is scummy but for fear of lynching an innocent due to lack of activity I'm unvoting. We need more participation. I'd rather go into the night with a no lynch and 1 dead townie and possibly two dead townies for Day 3. How does this suggestion not bother anyone else? Going into the night with a no lynch makes it 4 v 2 on day 3. No DT = no sure lynch. Also, the two mafia votes count more and more as there are fewer townies.
ehh?
You've admitted that you aren't even sure who you think is Mafia right? The "I'm 50% sure Ace is Mafia" line.
The fact that you aren't sure and STILL want to lynch someone is exactly why I called you on it. If we lynch a townie, we lose 2. There is no medic so a townie gets killed tonight. What i'm saying is if you aren't even sure then it makes sense to vote for a no lynch and try again tomorrow. Killing people just for the sake of killing them is exactly why I'm keeping my vote on you. I've responded to your claims about Vivi and yet you say I'm not posting content. You blame me for Vivi's death and yet you also have a vote on him, even using an excuse to make yourself look like you are less responsible.
Point of the matter is you've been tunnel visioning me all game making it LOOK like you're scumhunting when you've even admitted that you weren't sure I'm scum. Then when I brought up the point that I got hit with 2 votes very fast, then a third from nemy you just brushed it off with inane logic saying because there are 2 Mafia in the game those votes aren't scummy. Right...
People lets be real here. The only reason I'm under suspicion is because I'm Ace. No one wants to admit it but because I'm a good player and didn't die Night 1 is the only reason I'm being voted on. You have no case on me. The best thing anyone has is that I voted for Vivi57 and thats it. It only seemed bad because he flipped Medic and there is no way I could have known that. Look back at the beginning of the game - I always had my serious votes on him. It's been nothing but a smear campaign to undermine me when you all know I think Vivi is useless.
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Ace, citi.zen, RoL, all give me the same gut feeling. Seems like either one of them are Mafia, or all three of them are green.
Nemy is on top of my gut list, but no point voting for him, unless you guys would change votes.
Johnnyspazz haven't posted much. Can't comment. Lurking Mafia? Possible. Especially in a small game setting like this.
haster27 have made some logical posts, least concerned as a suspect for the moment.
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I'm sure one of the 3 of citizen, Rol and nemy are mafia. Like I said 3 votes on me fast and the fact that the case against me is weak. They are trying to lynch me based on my policy of lynching day 1 Doc claims when they know I would do it regardless of who it is.
johnnyspazz and haster need to post more because obviously lurking in a small game is really bad for the town.
Fishball if you aren't convinced anyone is Mafia I think we should go with a no lynch. Getting 2 innocents killed is disastrous. I'd rather us not randomly kill a townie and have no clue about what's going. One death is much better than the guaranteed two if we mislynch here.
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The day ends at 10pm EST or 11:00 KST/TeamLiquid time. That's less than 15 hours from now.
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This has to be a bad fucking joke. If we get a no lynch tonight we end up EXACTLY where we are today with one less town. All the mafia has to do is not hit one of the conflicting parties (which they won't if they have a brain) and we will just continue this same fight where Ace acts like a mafia, fishball says things like look [i[fishy[/i] (lawl) and we eventually lose because pissing away days does nothing.
I am pretty confident that Ace is mafia. The way you are arguing and speaking is very harsh? You basically do anything you can to not get voted, attack every single vote and do everything you can to discredit citizen.
I get it, if you are town its still beneficial to not be lynched, but the way you are going about it just seems mafiaish to me.
If ANYONE looks back you can see at ANY opportunity he does WHATEVER he can to discredit Citizen and try to get other people to vote for him. If we vote the wrong person tonight the mafia only need to sway one more vote to win. We would end up in a 3v2 situation where we need to perfectly lynch twice in a row in order to win, or fail one and lose.
Vote motherfucking Ace. The only thing I find odd is that if the mafia are Fishball/Ace I don't know why they would both throw themselves out there on a green lynch which would fuck them both over when we see the result. So that is why I think fishball might not be mafia, I don't think they would be that dumb of a mafia team, I am sure you are just being a skeptic right now.
But seriously, contribute more. The only thing you have said for the last page is that is something along the lines of me, citizen, or Ace are mafia. I am sure any halfwit could of assumed that one of us is mafia. Unless we have two lurker mafia who are doing jackshit (seems very unlikely) one of us is obviously mafia. Do some behavioral analysis posts thoughts about why our posting history looks scummy, just do something.
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lmao.
So wait let me get this straight.
I'm discrediting citizen even though I've pointed out that his reasons that I'm Mafia are that I'm wrong in debate and that I voted for the same guy he voted for?
And lynching an innocent townie today is much better than no lynching? Are you serious?
Of course, me trying to stay alive is scummy because getting killed is clearly the thing a Townie would do. Are you reading?
So Citizen currently has 4 votes on him, I have 3. Citizen is definitely in line for lynching first, but I'm the one that's scum when I'm arguing that we should be considering the No Lynch so we could go into tomorrow 4 v 2 instead of 3 v 2.
Right. I'm the one making bad arguments and bad logic here. I'm advocating saving people while you just want somebody to die screaming do something when you aren't exactly the most active person here.
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On March 28 2010 05:28 Ace wrote:
1.) I am not wrong on the vivi argument. You asked my opinion and I stated it. How is it that all of a sudden it's purely wrong even though you voted for Vivi? Whether you were at work or not isn't even a relevant excuse. We can't prove that. The point is YOU had a vote on the dead medic so you are responsible just as much as I am.
You have your opinion, while I disagree with it, you have it. I am not voting you based on the Vivi vote alone. I view your standout on that as illogical due to how risky of a move it is by mafia because if they claim the role that is in the game they auto die. I suck at math but lets pretend its a 66% chance they claim a role that the role a mafia claims exists because potentially both blue's could be in the game, or just one. Vivi claimed so fucking late though, so it didn't really even matter. We had no time to talk about it. It was more or less bad luck.
2.) Keep ignoring posts? I respond to your accusations every time and in fact have proven you wrong. Remember how you claimed being your posting level is keeping the game active, but when I said the same thing you just blew it off?
Who the fuck cares about how much you post? If I could double lynch and kill both of you I would just because I am sure one of you is mafia, but 90% of my sure is on you being that mafia.
Now in regards to you discrediting anyone. These are ALL your posts from after versatile died, up until this post.
ALL OF ACES POSTS
+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2010 03:44 Ace wrote:
so like, is anyone going to help save me or do I have to write out a long counter post? You guys do realize its LYNCH OR LOSE right? When I flip town due to TWO votes on me the game is over.
I got 2 quick votes and one from RoL who's barely posted and everyone else is pretty much inactive. You just note how you obtained the first two votes with people posting opinions. No proving wrong being done. On March 28 2010 03:54 Ace wrote:
ugh you're right. I was looking at the list and checked off Abenson's name instead of replacing it with RoL.
Either way how does letting me die from 2 quick votes help the town? I still don't understand how me OR citizen are guaranteed to be mafia. There isn't a DT check or a counter claim here, and we've got lots of players lurking. I think citizen is the scummiest person here so far but when I flip green you've still got to look at the people not placing votes. Look at how fast I caught those 2 votes and we've got 4 non-voters. This is ridiculous lurking.
##unvote citizen## Haven't proved anything except arguing the logic of lynching one you you. Seems like you are just trying to make sure you live and are doing everything you can to paint yourself in a positive light, I mean who cares if we don't lynch Citizen, as long as we don't lynch you, right? Mafia thinking. On March 28 2010 03:56 Ace wrote:
And yes I think citizen is scummy but for fear of lynching an innocent due to lack of activity I'm unvoting. We need more participation. I'd rather go into the night with a no lynch and 1 dead townie and possibly two dead townies for Day 3. Nothing has been said here, except you rather a no lynch, then a lynch you. Which would put us in the exact same situation just allowing the mafia to put themselves in a gaming winning position on that day by merely manipulating the lynch because of the inactive town. No lynch today is dumb, we need someone fucking gone. On March 28 2010 03:56 Ace wrote:
Well haster look how little activity this game has. Only a few people are actually trying to play :/ no comment On March 28 2010 04:12 Ace wrote:
You should delete that other post. Not good to reference an ongoing game.
And yes I think the most active posters might be green. Still think citizen is scum though. But looking at the 2 quick votes I'm not ruling out RoL. Talking about other game and then back to Citizen is mafia talk. Ohboi. On March 28 2010 04:22 Ace wrote:
no problem. Just that if certain information is lost with your death or they missed when you said it in the thread it should stay that way ^_^ Other game. On March 28 2010 04:26 Ace wrote:
what? assume one of the active players is Mafia?!?!??!
Explain how this makes sense?
So ok. Myself and citizen are the most active players. You guys lynch me and I flip green, then citizen being the only active poster is killed and flips green.
So what do we do next? Thanks for the WCS. We are all aware that neither of you you dying makes the other one the opposite alignment. I would say you both being green is near impossible and both being red is even more impossible and with being blue completely impossible I would say the only LIKELY scenario is a 1:1 green/red and the way you are playing makes me more inclined to think its you. I also like to think I am active enough to qualify in that category. On March 27 2010 10:37 Ace wrote:
I find it funny that you voted to lynch Vivi but are trying to lay the blame game on everyone else. Hilarious. I suppose its important that he tried to vote someone else (lawl) Who cares? But what points have you even disproved at this point? Everyone was on board with lynching Vivi until he claimed. To look up the exact post, he claimed with 3 hours left. Giving no real time for discussion. I can't blame you for that, Vivi was stupid to wait that long when it seemed obvious he was dead.
3.) Not discussing anything of substance? Hello? I'm the one trying to keep the game going. You've asked me about Vivi, RoL has tried to have some sort of lopsided discussion with me and I've posted about everything from lynching lurkers to lynching unproved claimers. Your statement here is a lie.
If you look at the above posts, there is virtually no substance in them.
4.) You say there's a 50% chance I'm mafia and it's now or never. So you aren't even sure I'm mafia and yet you think it's better to lynch me because picking someone else would be a crapshoot. Well isn't lynching me a crapshoot if you aren't even sure?!
I am 90% sure, does that make it better? Stop attacking nonpoints. You are posting nothing, and are our best candidate today, so just die with honor.
I'm convinced citizen is scum. Even more so by the fast vote out of no where by RebirthofLegend. Then after 40 hours of being afk nemy (o hai!) shows up with a bs vote on me. That's 3 votes on me and no votes on anyone else since the day post and no one else finds this suspect? You're kidding right?
CITIZEN/ABENSON/ROL FOR MAFIA. SEEMS PERFECTLY LOGICAL.
Double lynch I say. My quick vote coincided with me reading the entire thread and interpreting everything I had read. I happened to agree with Versatile's take on the medic situation as well as Citizen's thoughts of you being mafia mafia.
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