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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 18:55:53
March 21 2010 01:41 GMT
#1
No gimmicks.
No clues.
No elections.
No stupid unbalanced shit.
And NO PMs or other out of thread communications for most players!

Let's play mafia.

Play seriously. Play to win.



The setup:
9 players: 7 town, 2 mafia

Among the town members, there is a good chance that 1 is a medic, and a good chance 1 is a detective.

Among the mafia members, there is a good chance that 1 is a roleblocker.

Medic:
Each night, you may choose one person other than yourself to protect. If that person was the target of the mafia nightkill, the nightkill fails.

Detective:
Each night, you may choose one person to investigate. You will receive either TOWN-aligned or MAFIA-aligned as a result.

Roleblocker:
Each night, you may choose one person to roleblock. That person's night action is canceled for the night. This power cannot block the mafia's nightkill. The person blocked will be notified that they were roleblocked if they tried to perform a night action, but will not know who blocked them. You receive no explicit information as a result of your roleblock.

Town:
You win when all mafia are killed, and at least one town member is alive.

Mafia:
Each night, your team MUST choose one person to kill. If you do not choose anyone, the host will randomly choose for you among all the players in the game. You may talk with your mafia teammates outside of the thread. You win when there is no longer any chance for the town to win, and at least one mafia member is alive. You also win if there is only one town-aligned player and one mafia-aligned player alive.

Game balance information:
- The chance the town will win if all targets are chosen randomly is approximately 29%.
- The earliest the town can win is day 2. The chance of this occurring randomly is approximately 2%.
- The earliest the mafia can win is night 3. The chance of this occurring randomly is approximately 24%.
- The town must successfully lynch 2 times to win the game.
- The town can afford at most (2 + x) mislynches and still win, where x is the number of successful medic protections divided by 2, rounded down.
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The above probabilities are generated under the assumption that power roles always use their powers on randomly selected targets, the town always lynches randomly selected players, and the mafia randomly select among players not on the mafia team to nightkill.


Roles will be assigned to players using a random number generator. The phrase "good chance" is a hidden value defined by the host.

Sample Town role PM:
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You are a Townie. Good luck!






The Rules you probably already know:
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Keep the game civil.
No cheating, including but not limited to:
- logging onto someone else's account
- comparing role PM times
- posting screenshots of PMs
- posting PMs from the host
- editing posts
- posting anything that could affect the game after death. Only one post-death goodbye post is allowed.

The Rules that may be unfamiliar to you:
- No out of thread communications (including PMs) is allowed with other players unless you are specifically given this ability.


Signing up:
Certain players have been given preference for this game. The rest of the slots will be filled by players chosen from those who sign up. However, players will be chosen at the host's discretion for the first run of this setup.

However, once this game has successfully ended and the automated tools involved are well-developed, I will host as many games as required for as many players who want to play, so don't feel left out. I will give preference to those who signed up for this game and were not chosen for the first of these games.

Timing:
The tentative plan is for this game will follow a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle, ending at 10pm EST.

MVP/LVP:
In addition to tracking win/loss records under this and other well-balanced formats, at the end of the game players will be invited to PM the host their opinion of which of their fellow players performed the best and worst in this specific game. The host will also vote once. More details to come when the game ends.

Flavor:
I don't mind writing flavor if players enjoy it, but when I play, I don't even bother reading it. If there is no overwhelming desire from the players for flavor, I will include only the minimum required.

Credits:
Thanks to previous mafia game hosts for taking the time and effort to run games. Whoever the balance crew are, they weren't involved in balancing this game. This game is balanced with SCIENCE.





Voting Rules:
- Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. Anyone without a valid vote when a day ends will be modkilled.
- A vote must be for a specific player, or...
- You may vote in favor of a no lynch if you believe it is in the best interests of the town.
- The player with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. If no lynch has the most votes, no player is lynched.
- In the event of a tie, the player (or "no lynch") with the most votes first is considered to have the most votes.

Vote-counting will be done with an automated program for this game:

Vote by including in a post in the game thread a phrase with the following format:
##Vote (playername)##

- Do not ever include "##" in your post for any other reason, and if "##" is in your signature, remove it.
- Voting is case-insensitive, but symbols, spacing, and numbers are important. Copy and paste a player's username if you need to be sure.
- Do not change the formatting of your text in the middle of a vote. For example, if you bold your votes, make sure the beginning bold tag starts before the first V, and the ending bold tag ends after the last letter of the player's name.
- Remove votes when quoting other players, or it will be as if you have submitted that vote!
- Vote for a no lynch by including the following: ##Vote no lynch##
- Any valid vote posted later than a previous valid vote replaces it.

Example post that includes a vote:
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That Zona's play has been really fishy this game.

##Vote Zona##

I encourage all of you to vote for him as well, get rid of that stink'n mafia.


During the night phase, submit your night actions by PM to me using the following format:
PM Title: Mafia
PM Content: ##(action) (playername)##

where action is one of: Roleblock, Protect, Investigate, Kill
Example PM content:
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##Protect Zona##


You can submit the same action with a different player's name if you change your mind. That submission will supersede your previous action submission. A submission from any member of the mafia team for the action of "Kill" is treated identically. If a different member of the mafia later submits a different kill target, it will replace the earlier submission!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 02:13:55
March 21 2010 01:42 GMT
#2
Town victory!

Player list
Abenson replaced by RebirthOfLeGenD (aka rol), killed Night 2
Ace the mafia roleblocker, lynched Day 3
citi.zen (aka: citizen), lynched Day 2
Fishball, killed Night 3
haster27 (aka: haster)
johnnyspazz (aka: johnny, jonny, or jonnyspazz), modkilled Day 4
nemY, modkilled Day 4
Versatile (aka: vers) the detective, killed Night 1
Vivi57 (aka: vivi) the medic, lynched Day 1
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 21:52:03
March 21 2010 01:42 GMT
#3
Vote count for the day's lynch, updated as of post # 402:

1 vote for nemy:
haster27

players who have not voted:
nemy
johnnyspazz

Unrecognized votes:


Vote history by voter:

haster27 voted for:
nemy

nemy voted for:

johnnyspazz voted for:

"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 21 2010 04:11 GMT
#4
I is here!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 21 2010 04:20 GMT
#5
i would like to play
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 21 2010 04:27 GMT
#6
sounds fun, but any way we can get longer days?
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 21 2010 09:38 GMT
#7
i'm down for this
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 21 2010 16:12 GMT
#8
lol reminds me of mafiascum game. I have interest in joining this game, but seeing as how I am newcomer to TL mafia thread and has already signed up for World at War one, you can choose to bump me out if there is no slot available for any veteran members.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 21 2010 17:34 GMT
#9
I think this game is going to be worth watching from the outside to see Ace and Vivi go at it.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 21 2010 17:42 GMT
#10
I'm in :D
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 21 2010 17:43 GMT
#11
OMG F11 setup
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 21 2010 18:33 GMT
#12
Invited players have until Monday 11:59pm EST to respond. It's likely that on Tuesday the list of players will be chosen and the game will start.

The timing cycle is not yet set in stone. Since the game doesn't revolve around DT checks, if players prefer longer days that is a possibility. I actually originally wanted 36 hour days/12 hour nights but upon second thought realized that probably wouldn't work.

BTW, in case anyone thinks the game balance information is BS...I did write a program to crunch out the probabilities. I will probably rely on this kind of tool to balance my future, really wild games - but those probably will still be somewhat unbalanced anyways. I did use F11 as a starting point since it was among the few mafiascum formats have been tried and tested many times, but in the end the town random win% and the maximum number of mislynches that still allow the town to win were the key factors in my decision. (And maybe it could end up being one of the setups that isn't possible under F11!) Of course, the more power roles that are in the game, the lower the town random win% should be. And the town random win% definitely needs to be <50% by a significant degree. After all, the town benefits by gaining information, the mafia in most cases does not.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 21 2010 20:19 GMT
#13
ugh. I'm v/la from tomorrow till thursday. I'm supposed to have internet, but I might not or it might be so bad that its unusable.

But oh well, with 36 hour days, I'd still be home on thrusday night, in time to read day1 and vote.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 21 2010 20:33 GMT
#14
O dam it's invite only D:
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 21 2010 21:07 GMT
#15
What's the reasoning behind the invites? Are they going out to veteran players, newer players, good/bad players, etc? I'm of the opinion that a smaller format works better for newer players as far as the learning-experience goes.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 21 2010 22:02 GMT
#16
Typing in thread as requested.
Joining.
靈魂交響曲
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 21 2010 22:21 GMT
#17
i'll play if you'll allow it.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
March 22 2010 00:47 GMT
#18
I'm only going to play Ace's game, but I like the rules in yours, it will be fun to watch. Also a nice amount of players, should force everyone to be active, hopefully o:
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 22 2010 02:16 GMT
#19
Yea this is the kind of setup I actually prefer ^_^

It's much costlier to make mistakes but also hella damaging killing just 1 scum.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 22 2010 15:04 GMT
#20
post.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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