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haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 24 2010 14:25 GMT
#81
Okay, let me play Devil's Advocate here. It is true vivi57 has announced that he will hardly be present before the game, and the first post he had made sounds semi-decent. Yes, I know it's day 1 but we should always prioritize hitting on Mafia than bad players, especially in this format where lynch is our only option of killing them. Main argument seems to be that he is inactive; however, there are still many players here that have not yet posted any insightful posts at all (Abenson, myself etc.) He should not be treated more scummy than any of the others.

Another thing I note is shootout between Versatile and citi.zen. Maybe it is me, but I think citi.zen was unnecessarily demeaning in his accusation against Versatile. Line "This is slightly more ... barely" was completely unneeded, and ho the mud swinging begins. Currently I don't know what to make out of this since encouraging discussion is highly beneficial to the town, and he might have wanted to coax out more material to work with, but both parties are being too emotional (?) for mot liking, with what I suppose is Versatile's OMGUS vote. I'll be keeping my eye out for the both of them.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2010 15:53 GMT
#82
Doesn't matter what day it is, we should always prioritize killing Mafia. The thing is just the fact that people are voting for whoever they think is scum/they surely know is innocent is telling.

But on to a finer point: Vivi is just bad. In fact I don't even have to tell you, and you don't even have to read past games to know - look at his response in this very thread. Instead of even trying to look innocent he kinda shrugs it off and casually tosses a vote onto fishball. Bad players don't help you win and no one else except nemy looks remotely suspicious.

Also, Vivi is a lurker. So if you want to say we should start lynching lurkers to force them to post then we might as well lynch the scummiest of all the lurkers. Between Vivi57, yourself and Abenson reading this thread from the beginning who looks the scummiest? My answer would be set on Vivi57 just like my vote.

As for citizen and Versatile I thought that was just hilarity. People insult each other all the time in Mafia games and that didn't seem over the top to me. Also being emotional isn't exactly a bad thing ^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2010 15:56 GMT
#83
my bad, error in the last post. Vivi placed a Fos on Fishball but voted on johnnyspazz.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 17:39 GMT
#84
Can someone explain the terminology we are using? Like mainly the meanings behind it.
WIFOM is whine in front of me, but i don't understand the exact logic behind it
i don't really know the rest... is FoS finger of suspicion?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 17:43 GMT
#85
Also we still have a day and a half to build a solid case against somebody; no need to randomly go around flinging accusations just because you got butt-hurt by somebody fingering you (i get it at that most of the first votes were just for shits n giggles).
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 17:49 GMT
#86
nemy, i'm beginning to think you're just lazy or looking for random ish to post. i didn't know what those things meant but i put them into google and voila.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 24 2010 18:21 GMT
#87
On March 25 2010 02:39 nemY wrote:
Can someone explain the terminology we are using? Like mainly the meanings behind it.
WIFOM is whine in front of me, but i don't understand the exact logic behind it
i don't really know the rest... is FoS finger of suspicion?


You are right, it means finger of suspicion.
I googled it last night myself, since I didn't know what it meant as well.


靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 24 2010 18:24 GMT
#88
Woops, just saw Versatile's post above mine.
My post meant no mockery Nemy. Just stating I didn't know all these acronyms being used as well.

Also, I guess the new trend now is to point a FoS on A, and vote for B
靈魂交響曲
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 24 2010 18:42 GMT
#89
On March 25 2010 03:24 Fishball wrote:
Woops, just saw Versatile's post above mine.
My post meant no mockery Nemy. Just stating I didn't know all these acronyms being used as well.

Also, I guess the new trend now is to point a FoS on A, and vote for B


Because there would be no point if we vote for the person we FoS on, right?
It is commonly used to point out secondary suspects, snap some lazy players into attention, and fake-vote replacement when there are too little player left after all.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 20:52 GMT
#90
On March 25 2010 02:49 Versatile wrote:
nemy, i'm beginning to think you're just lazy or looking for random ish to post. i didn't know what those things meant but i put them into google and voila.


To be honest, i still don't quite understand the WIFOM scenario, but yeah i googled most of it. Can someone care to elaborate on WIFOM? Regardless, it seems like people are trying to act all hip and cool by using mafia-related terminology, when in fact all they're really saying is NOTHING CONTENT RELATED. It's ok though, I get it. Day One lynches have little, if anything to really be based on. That said I change my vote to ##Abenson## because he's first on the list of people and because he's posted absolutely NOTHING but sarcasm this entire game.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 24 2010 21:00 GMT
#91
@nemy
WIFOM stands for Wine in Front of Me
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=WIFOM
:D
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 24 2010 21:02 GMT
#92
On March 25 2010 05:52 nemY wrote:
Day One lynches have little, if anything to really be based on. That said I change my vote to ##Abenson## because he's first on the list of people and because he's posted absolutely NOTHING but sarcasm this entire game.


Sure, simply vote for me because I'm the first on the list?!
I would accept not helping the town as an excuse to vote for me, but I fail to see why you would list being first on the list as an excuse. It sounds like you just wanted to vote for me and is trying to find something to justify that no matter how lame it sounds.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 21:11 GMT
#93
i'm being sarcastic bro
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 24 2010 21:11 GMT
#94
ebwop: at least when it comes to my first reason and i've read that link already, but i still don't really understand how it is used in game.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 24 2010 21:43 GMT
#95
Just a reminder: check the vote counts after you make a vote to make sure the votes are counted in the way you intended! I would like to believe that my instructions on how to format a vote are not unreasonable, but if they are so, please let me know!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2010 22:20 GMT
#96
On March 25 2010 05:52 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 02:49 Versatile wrote:
nemy, i'm beginning to think you're just lazy or looking for random ish to post. i didn't know what those things meant but i put them into google and voila.


To be honest, i still don't quite understand the WIFOM scenario, but yeah i googled most of it. Can someone care to elaborate on WIFOM? Regardless, it seems like people are trying to act all hip and cool by using mafia-related terminology, when in fact all they're really saying is NOTHING CONTENT RELATED. It's ok though, I get it. Day One lynches have little, if anything to really be based on. That said I change my vote to ##Abenson## because he's first on the list of people and because he's posted absolutely NOTHING but sarcasm this entire game.


WIFOM is very simple but it's usually explained in retarded ways. Simplest way to look at it:

1.) I can do X to you.

2.) You know I can do X, so you will do Y.

3.) I know that you can do Y, so I'll do Z.

4.) You know that I know you can do Y, and that I can do Z, so you'll do A.

5.) I know .....so I'll go back to doing X.

It's just a way to say "hey if I were you, I'd do this!" and from then on people discuss from there at which point it's no longer rational to do X,Y,Z or A (because in a game of Mafia none of the 4 choices usually exist, it's usually like 2 and MAYBE 3 at best).
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 24 2010 22:21 GMT
#97
my bad, it shouldn't say none. It should read: not all 4 choices exist, and not all of them are equal anyway.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 25 2010 00:24 GMT
#98
At this point, johnny is almost definitely scum. PBPA of johnny:

1: asks why ace hates me a couple posts after the start of the game. Essentially a post with no content, although the game is so early you can't really count this against him.

2: random vote on nemy. I've already commented about this.

3: reply to my accusation. Jumps on my weak point about his first post, completely ignores the main point I make about his weak vote late into the day, and complains that I haven't defended myself. To top it all off, he puts a vote on me with no real reason cited.


If this wasn't enough, look more closely. Once I accused him, it took him 6 minutes to reply to me before and after which he was nowhere to be seen. If this isn't active lurking then I don't know what is.

It's very cute that you guys are spreading votes, but we need to work together to lynch the mafia.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 25 2010 01:53 GMT
#99
Nobody is almost definitely anything at this point. Johnny isn't playing out of character, as far as I can tell. Look at the archives from Mafia XX for example.

In this game we have to get people to contribute/talk a bit more. Even if it's just shooting the breeze at this point :-)
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 25 2010 02:00 GMT
#100
damn resorting to times between posts to accuse me of mafia? now, i don't know how legit of an argument that is but to me it seems weak.
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