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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2010 15:16 GMT
#1201
On March 28 2010 22:50 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 22:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:
No...more the fact you were one of the people willing to let someone I confirmed die by lynch...

Wat. Who did you confirm that I voted to lynch?

Plus interesting you rage at tree.hugger and Xelin but not Versatile - why this discrepancy?


Abenson...You kept wanting to kill him after I posted we were masons. I mean, again, before you discredit my claim, I did breadcrumb the mans name so after my own death flipped me mason he can pop out and be like "oh hai guys, I'm townie"

I feel thats kinda a strong claim...

Ya know?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2010 15:24 GMT
#1202
Oh, and don't get me wrong....Versatile is still a jack ass for that. He killing L gave us...almost zero new information actually...Lol. That's the sad part. Who didn't already assume he was pro-town? Sure know we know for certain, but fuck he was already doing a shit ton that shown him to be pro-town.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 28 2010 15:27 GMT
#1203
On March 29 2010 00:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 22:50 Zona wrote:
On March 28 2010 22:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:
No...more the fact you were one of the people willing to let someone I confirmed die by lynch...

Wat. Who did you confirm that I voted to lynch?

Plus interesting you rage at tree.hugger and Xelin but not Versatile - why this discrepancy?


Abenson...You kept wanting to kill him after I posted we were masons. I mean, again, before you discredit my claim, I did breadcrumb the mans name so after my own death flipped me mason he can pop out and be like "oh hai guys, I'm townie"

I feel thats kinda a strong claim...

Ya know?

I had a feeling you had misinterpreted everything...could you reread post 385 and 388 as well as all the posts surrounding them?

I was the FIRST person to unvote Abenson in reaction to your mason claim. I read between the lines that you were claiming masons with Abenson before you fully claimed and unvoted then.

When did I even try to discredit your claim?

And after those posts I have nothing stating that I wanted to kill Abenson nor did I ever vote him again...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 28 2010 15:29 GMT
#1204
I did say your claim may not be true - but that is standard for any claim. That's not actively going out to discredit it. And I definitely didn't go after Abenson again, except for never contributing and taking AGES to confirm his end of the claim.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 15:31 GMT
#1205
opz, i don't think iaaan (or anyone else) standing against anti-nuker caller shows that they are pro-town. as members of the mafia, they would he would get anti-nuked, and could rail against him all the wanted to in the thread, but know what was really going on behind the scenes.

zona, and everyone else, if the town sees fit to lynch me, that's fine. i don't plan on launching any more nukes without town consent. the situation did escalate pretty quickly, and i apologize to the town for that. i understand if you don't believe me, but i thought i'd say it.

i'd be willing (and happy) to vote to lynch iaaan and caller. if the town decides on someone else, i'll vote that way.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2010 15:42 GMT
#1206
tree.hugger first....or maybe caller.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 28 2010 15:46 GMT
#1207
So OpZ, is it still your interpretation that I was trying to kill Abenson after your mason claim?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2010 15:48 GMT
#1208
I need to go look at the posts...you should of told me the page...not the post number
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 28 2010 15:51 GMT
#1209
if you have 20 posts per page (this is page 61 for you), then page 20 (just divide by 20, +1 for remainder). I would quote the posts here as well, but you need to see how my vote switch away from Abenson is before everyone else's, so seeing my posts ordered with everyone else's is important.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 28 2010 15:53 GMT
#1210
I don't even know if I should bother putting so much effort in here. If being the first to switch a vote away from a mason claim is somehow interpreted as constantly trying to kill the mason in question...

sigh.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 15:59 GMT
#1211
it's on page 20, if that helps. it's easy to determine that zona believed the mason claim before many others, as he was the one who started the bandwagon on RoL after the claim.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#1212
No...Just how many wanted to "verify" by killing me or abenson was retarded...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2010 16:09 GMT
#1213
On March 29 2010 00:59 Versatile wrote:
it's on page 20, if that helps. it's easy to determine that zona believed the mason claim before many others, as he was the one who started the bandwagon on RoL after the claim.

It was never really a big deal to me anyway. Just can't trust everyone with a big long post...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
March 28 2010 16:15 GMT
#1214
Huh... a dud from BM, friggin eh.

I agree with most of Opz's take of Iaaan and the others... but perhaps not tree.hugger. I put him in the same boat as Versatile right now. Not mafia but certainly not helping us and its really a shame BM's nuke was a dud.

If I had to post my suspect list it would be something of the order of:

Iaaan
Caller
d3-cres
Amber
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 28 2010 16:16 GMT
#1215
On March 29 2010 01:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 00:59 Versatile wrote:
it's on page 20, if that helps. it's easy to determine that zona believed the mason claim before many others, as he was the one who started the bandwagon on RoL after the claim.

It was never really a big deal to me anyway. Just can't trust everyone with a big long post...

Not a big deal to you? It's a big deal to me.

You, the player with the best townie credentials so far in the game, accused me of the exact opposite of what I did. If you're trying to win, you need to make sure misinformation is minimized.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 16:19:24
March 28 2010 16:16 GMT
#1216
Just for some perspective, I did launch a nuke without town consensus although I can't do so again as I only had one nuke that I was allowed to launch in secret. I actually was of the impression that it meant no-one would be informed about the nuke and not have the option of anti-nuking, didn't explain in role and I assumed. In retrospect it's been wasted now .

Also The nuke I have launched has been anti-nuked as well as the anti-nuker not coming forward and explaining why, now this doesn't say so much in itself as a town anti-nuker certainly has good reason not to come forward assuming they have more anti-nukes or even just to not give the mafia information, but still worth considering.

Someone asked to expound on my believing LMNOP to be mafia, the whole OpZ Abenson thing was the most important in swaying, once OpZ came out as being homosexual Mason. It seemed fairly obvious when considering the hypothetical of them being mafia, that they were legitimate and yet lMNOP attempted to continue to have Abenson lynched. This in itself could go both ways like OpZ in that you could say "if it was so obvious then the mafia would not risk trying to carry on with lynching him" however, at the time there was still a large number of votes on Abenson and a legitimate chance of having him lynched.

To compound that, his immediate jump to accusing me of launching the anonymous nuke (before I so cleverly came out and admitted) seems suspicious in and of itself. If he was a townie he would not be so sure where it came from, peoples roles are a mystery suspicion is everywhere and you can't be sure on anything especially so early on in the game. He immediately said it was me, and if you read the wording he was pretty firm, this seems mafialike to me. Also he clearly outlined why I had found him suspicious in the same post, this is interesting as it is his first response to my suspicions, before the nuke and his post accusing me of launching it he had given no response whatsoever choosing to ignore.

So there those are my reasons.

Just to further clarify, I've left off giving a big explanation post so we can have some time to see peoples posts before hand.

I have claimed North Korea, Already you know NK has the ability to launch nukes anonymously. Do you really think this ability would go to mafia? Either I am not NK (in which case the real one should come forward as it would out me as mafia essentially) or I am townie, in this case kim jong townie.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 16:19:02
March 28 2010 16:18 GMT
#1217
Misclick posted.
Adonai bless
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2010 16:21 GMT
#1218
Xelin...You're kim jong il...I want you dead...How can you not be mafia?

And yes...I really think that ability would go to the mafia...it's the only team it would make sense to go to.

Oh and fuck...no...it wasn't zona it was lmnop...my bad man...remember 2 hours of sleep....sorry.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 28 2010 16:24 GMT
#1219
p.s.....I want to nuke you...I want to nuke you good...but I think the town wants me to hold off...I had forgot about you for a sec...I propose Xelin for lynch tomorrow...

All Opposed?

All For?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
March 28 2010 16:24 GMT
#1220
On March 29 2010 01:16 XeliN wrote:
Just for some perspective, I did launch a nuke without town consensus although I can't do so again as I only had one nuke that I was allowed to launch in secret. I actually was of the impression that it meant no-one would be informed about the nuke and not have the option of anti-nuking, didn't explain in role and I assumed. In retrospect it's been wasted now .

Also The nuke I have launched has been anti-nuked as well as the anti-nuker not coming forward and explaining why, now this doesn't say so much in itself as a town anti-nuker certainly has good reason not to come forward assuming they have more anti-nukes or even just to not give the mafia information, but still worth considering.

Someone asked to expound on my believing LMNOP to be mafia, the whole OpZ Abenson thing was the most important in swaying, once OpZ came out as being homosexual Mason. It seemed fairly obvious when considering the hypothetical of them being mafia, that they were legitimate and yet lMNOP attempted to continue to have Abenson lynched. This in itself could go both ways like OpZ in that you could say "if it was so obvious then the mafia would not risk trying to carry on with lynching him" however, at the time there was still a large number of votes on Abenson and a legitimate chance of having him lynched.

To compound that, his immediate jump to accusing me of launching the anonymous nuke (before I so cleverly came out and admitted) seems suspicious in and of itself. If he was a townie he would not be so sure where it came from, peoples roles are a mystery suspicion is everywhere and you can't be sure on anything especially so early on in the game. He immediately said it was me, and if you read the wording he was pretty firm, this seems mafialike to me. Also he clearly outlined why I had found him suspicious in the same post, this is interesting as it is his first response to my suspicions, before the nuke and his post accusing me of launching it he had given no response whatsoever choosing to ignore.

So there those are my reasons.

Just to further clarify, I've left off giving a big explanation post so we can have some time to see peoples posts before hand.

I have claimed North Korea, Already you know NK has the ability to launch nukes anonymously. Do you really think this ability would go to mafia? Either I am not NK (in which case the real one should come forward as it would out me as mafia essentially) or I am townie, in this case kim jong townie.


I don't think lmnop catching on that you launched the nuke is a mafia-tell. He could have just guessed it based on the posting and besides I think if a nuke is anonymous, it's probably anonymous to them as well.

Your stance on nuking lmnop was because he still wanted to have Abenson lynched? Well... I dunno about that... it's suspicious but if I remember correctly BM came out with the same statement a little while ago (to confirm Opz). It's definitely something to think about and keep in mind when reading lmnop's posts from now on... but it definitely didn't warrant a nuke.

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