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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
2. d3_crescentia 3. JeeJee 7. Amber[LighT] 8. Caller 12. Zona 14. Fishball 16. meeple 18. Nikon 20. nemy People who voted against L originally for no reason other than that he was banned are Fishball and d3. Versatile and tree.hugger also voted for L for no reason, and used nukes stupidly. These four people are who I think should be lynched. Verse will probably be hit with a nuke soon. Verse and tree.hugger both nuked L, looking at it from a mafia's perspective, they would know that L is town, and a veteran/useful player; thus they would have motivation to nuke him past just being pissed off at him. And I can see why people are suspicious of me, I haven't really been posting much rational behind my thoughts, but just my thoughts themselves. I've been busy/lazy, but like foolishness says, no one cares. But I acknowledge the accusations at least, and will try to respond to them, and point to people that I think are more suspicious than me. | ||
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Versatile
United States396 Posts
On March 28 2010 05:34 Versatile wrote: since i'm going to be dying soon, i just want to give the town a few tidbits to work with in my absence. don't let my i-don't-give-a-fcuk-ness dissuade you from giving to the town and winning this thing. anyone agreeing with me is most likely mafia. especially iaaan. please take the time to go through his posts. he's very bad @ covering up his mafia intentions. this is easy for me to see because he's pretty much been on the same page as me during this entire game. i know what my motivations are, but i believe his to be somewhat more sinister. just my opinion next: caller. as we all know, when caller is innocent, there is NO WAY to get away from him. a couple of mafia games ago, he was mafia and he posted very, very little. this is incredibly suspect. his posting style changes dramatically when he's town vs. mafia, so unless he's got something going on IRL that's serious (beyond school, work, etc) then you all should take a close look at him. secondly. anyone hit by an anonymous nuke is most likely town. but anyone saved by anonymous anti-nuke is some to look closely at. i think LMNOP is pro-town but i'd probably still keep my on him. and in general, the town needs to be looking closely at and asking for more from: iaaan caller amberlight nemy d3_crescentia xelin nikon fishball have a good game y'all. i'll try to stick around 'til i die and see if i can add more. quoted 'cuz i said i would. *fades into the sky on a bed of clouds like mufasa mouthing, "rememberrrrrrrrrrr" | ||
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Versatile
United States396 Posts
On March 28 2010 15:00 Iaaan wrote: I want to point out that the mafia will have been sitting around laughing at us while we were screwing ourselves. There was no reason for them to post anything to screw up the town because we were doing it for them. So the people who haven't posted much in a reasonable amount of time I think should be called attention to: 2. d3_crescentia 3. JeeJee 7. Amber[LighT] 8. Caller 12. Zona 14. Fishball 16. meeple 18. Nikon 20. nemy People who voted against L originally for no reason other than that he was banned are Fishball and d3. Versatile and tree.hugger also voted for L for no reason, and used nukes stupidly. These four people are who I think should be lynched. Verse will probably be hit with a nuke soon. Verse and tree.hugger both nuked L, looking at it from a mafia's perspective, they would know that L is town, and a veteran/useful player; thus they would have motivation to nuke him past just being pissed off at him. And I can see why people are suspicious of me, I haven't really been posting much rational behind my thoughts, but just my thoughts themselves. I've been busy/lazy, but like foolishness says, no one cares. But I acknowledge the accusations at least, and will try to respond to them, and point to people that I think are more suspicious than me. well, if i was mafia, i wouldn't be getting hit with a nuke, now would i? c'mon. you've seriously got some work to do on your game face. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Missile Launch detected! ![[image loading]](http://jeremayakovka.typepad.com/jeremayakovka/images/qassam_rocket_dud.jpg) Missiles from Bill Murray streak towards Versatile. As the missiles break the skyline the General looks on in terror. Suddenly he looks closely at the warheads and asks "Are those pies on the warheads?" The missiles end up damaging part of the city, but they are not nuclear. Versatile survives the attack! Missiles launched in retaliation by Versatile will strike BM at 15:42 KST! Missiles launched by L towards Caller will strike at 10:09 KST! Nukes in the air: 2 Nukes detonated: 2 Radiation levels: low Day currently ends at 10:09 KST March29th | ||
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Versatile
United States396 Posts
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. L is going to kill you. what a failure at life. my nuke isn't fake by the way. : ) | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On March 28 2010 15:29 Versatile wrote: LMAO. fake nuke BM? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. L is going to kill you. what a failure at life. my nuke isn't fake by the way. : ) Nah he's a G. | ||
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Versatile
United States396 Posts
i think defeating the mafia is going to be all about lynches because nukes are not for sure. the mafia can shoot down nukes, but they can't cancel out our lynches. would most people be on board for voting for either iaaan or caller? or if there are other candidates (other than myself) i'd be willing to hear the arguments. | ||
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Versatile
United States396 Posts
a dead one. so lowercase, i'd think. speaking of being dead.... :/ | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Hell on Earth! ![[image loading]](http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/javy97477/BulletBill.gif) Unlike the previous missile strike, these warheads turn out to be nuclear. Cattle is vaporized and burgers are everywhere! Mcdonald's comes to claim the free patties but realize not even they can sell this shit. Bill Murray is no more. Bill Murray (India,pro town, 1 shot Day Doc) Missiles launched by L towards Caller will strike at 10:09 KST! Nukes in the air: 1 Nukes detonated: 3 Radiation levels: low Day currently ends at 10:09 KST March29th | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 28 2010 15:00 Iaaan wrote: People who voted against L originally for no reason other than that he was banned are Fishball and d3. I never once mentioned I voted for L because he was banned or "inactive". Good to know you can't read. On March 28 2010 15:00 Iaaan wrote: These four people are who I think should be lynched. Feel free to lynch whoever you want, but at this rate, we'll never get pass Day 1. I never liked the plan/idea of extending the Day by nuking, fake or not. You guys are only chasing ghosts. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
LOL THIS SHIT IS SO GOOD YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! | ||
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Ace
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Zona
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NO MORE FUCKING NUKES! Town members have been launching nukes without consensus based on their feelings that "player x must be mafia" on day 1 - this is HORRIBLE play. Why? Because any individual's players feelings on who might be mafia, no matter how SURE they are, are probably wrong on day 1. On day 1 the town has the LEAST amount of information - any town-directed kill is much more likely to hit town than mafia (as town comprise the majority of the game's players). Anyone's personal feelings, no matter how strong, will often be wrong. The town should be slow to kill early in the game, and only later in the game consider (but not necessarily commit to) killing faster, as more information surfaces. The town's reads on other players, and the information it has gets better later in the game, so LATER town-directed kills are much more likely to be successful. In most cases, waiting on some consensus is best before using a town-directed kill. Town consensus does have the downside of potential mafia influence, but like vote counts, this can be examined later on. And the UPSIDE is that the opinions of multiple town members can help overcome your blind spots and biases. And so far all the known town-directed nukes HAVE been wrong. Because of this - even if you're about to be lynched, if you're town, you SHOULD NOT nuke, at least not until the late game. (part 2) Regarding anti-nukes - more evidence has surfaced supporting the idea that they are scarce: Notice out of the 4 dead townies that have flipped, only one had anti-nukes, and that person only had ONE anti-nuke in total. Don't squander our anti-nukes. (part 3) I honestly do think we should all wait for night before deciding what to do. Some people have asked "why do you want night so early...to take your night actions earlier?" - but that's an inaccurate and loaded question: Earlier or later nights doesn't make a difference in how effective your night actions are - the game mechanics are exactly the same. The town still gets one lynch in the day for every night that passes. It's not like the town LOSES powers or the mafia GAINS powers if we don't extend the day. Extending the day in a mafia game could benefit town members IF THE EXTRA DISCUSSION IS USEFUL. But in this game the extended day has just devolved into more nukes and no particular solid leads on mafia. So there's no point in extending the day further. (part 4) I really think Versatile really stepped out of line, and tree.hugger/Xelin to a lesser extent, but with recent developments I really don't think we should immediately lynch or revenge-nuke them, simply because of the reality I described in the earlier parts. What happened to my earlier stance on revenge-nuking? Revenge-nuking at this point in the game just opens more opportunities for the original nuker to launch more nukes, which we want to avoid. So at least for now, let's not revenge-nuke. How about lynching our nukers? Actually, I'm rather on board for a Versatile lynch since she's launched more nukes than our other nukers and shows no sign of stopping. But there are so many hours before we can make our the next lynch, we might as well see what develops before we make our decision. Maybe someone else will show even more significant signs of being a mafia member in the hours to come. Our next lynch IS a long time away (real-life time), so I'm not going to commit my vote just yet. (part 5) I don't suggest following L's plan even if he was town. As I stated earlier, the town has the least amount of information early game and the highest chance of picking the wrong suspects, so hold your fire. (Plus L was totally wrong in most of his calls that he made without relying on DT-check last game.) However I do support keeping an eye on the suspects he has indicated, as now that we know he's town, his list of suspects are free of mafia bias. (It doesn't necessarily make his suspect list ACCURATE, though.) Summary: As a town, we have the least amount of information early in the game, so we should be slow to kill. As we gain more information and our suspicions become more solid, then it could possibly (but not necessarily) be useful for the town to kill more quickly. As a town, our lynch for the day is already completed. The only thing we can do now is either: - Wait - Launch more nukes I am against launching more nukes - so let's wait and see what happens. | ||
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Zona
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Notice BM flipped "Day Doc" while johnnyspazz flipped "vanilla townie" - so johnnyspazz probably didn't have anti-nukes. I don't know what to make of the "I get them day 2 - oh wait I read things wrong" part of his claims. L was a medic and still made himself such a focal point of the discussion? I guess he can't stop himself from being loud in any game of mafia. Caller's still silent. Very silent, for an experienced TL mafia player and host. Plus, the nuke at him was shot down, while it seems whoever holds anti-nukes have been much more reluctant to use them to shoot down other nukes. If Japan (who anti-nuked for Caller) still has anti-nukes, for some reason this person isn't using them to save other nuke-targets. If Japan had only one nuke, I doubt this person would have spent it that readily. I agree with others who are stating that it's a significant possibility that a mafia-aligned Japan saved Caller, because either Japan spent his or her one anti-nuke very readily on Caller and didn't even consider saving it for another situation, or Japan does have more anti-nukes but only chose to save Caller and not other targets. | ||
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