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On March 29 2010 01:16 XeliN wrote:
Someone asked to expound on my believing LMNOP to be mafia, the whole OpZ Abenson thing was the most important in swaying, once OpZ came out as being homosexual Mason. It seemed fairly obvious when considering the hypothetical of them being mafia, that they were legitimate and yet lMNOP attempted to continue to have Abenson lynched. This in itself could go both ways like OpZ in that you could say "if it was so obvious then the mafia would not risk trying to carry on with lynching him" however, at the time there was still a large number of votes on Abenson and a legitimate chance of having him lynched.
I have to say I like this point. I'll have to re-read that portion of the game (yet again) to analyze it further.
On March 29 2010 01:16 XeliN wrote:
I have claimed North Korea, Already you know NK has the ability to launch nukes anonymously. Do you really think this ability would go to mafia? Either I am not NK (in which case the real one should come forward as it would out me as mafia essentially) or I am townie, in this case kim jong townie.
This argument, I don't buy. I believe you are North Korea and I believe you launched that nuke. There's no advantage to anyone admitting this information (including you), it was just a bad move. The question isn't whether or not you're North Korea, but whether or not you're town. You could be North Korea and anti-town. And I wouldn't be half surprised if a serial killer, or mafia, had the ability to launch nukes anonymously. Actually, your flawed argument that "I'm either town or NOT North Korea" doesn't help me look at you in a positive light.
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Hmmm, my argument doesn't solely rest on people actually realising that Ace would not give an ability to anonymously nuke to a mafia role, but I considered it pretty vindicating. Guess if you think it could go to mafia then it doesn't serve a purpose, hopefully others disagree.
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And let me emphasize...Not just because he's N.K. but because he fired a nuke without town judgement, because he fired a nuke unprovoked, and because he fired it anonymously. Why on gods green earth would you admit that?
I mean...I would have to think you were...well I can't take it uncivil, to maybe Versatile will for me?
But, uh...Yea...You seen Japan wouldn't come forward, what makes you think whoever anti'd it would...
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On March 29 2010 01:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:
p.s.....I want to nuke you...I want to nuke you good...but I think the town wants me to hold off...I had forgot about you for a sec...I propose Xelin for lynch tomorrow...
All Opposed?
All For?
There's like 3 probably townies that "should" be gotten rid of I think
Versatile
tree.hugger
Xelin
I would say that Versatile is the most dangerous, so I'd rather see her go, but I wouldn't be disappointed in the others. On the other hand... we really should be hunting red.
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All these edits in the thread...do we not have rules? Can I just go edit my own posts and blame some sort of mistake as well?
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One edit was to change [stripe] [/stripe] to , never used the command before and misread the UBB commands, other one was because i accidently clicked quote instead of edit on the next post and posted a rehash.
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On March 29 2010 01:27 Zona wrote:
All these edits in the thread...do we not have rules? Can I just go edit my own posts and blame some sort of mistake as well?
I can vouch for Xelin's changes... since I saw them happen
However really Xelin we shouldn't edit...
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Seriously...Isn't that like a modkill? I editted once, to add a spoiler on my misquote...But I copied it first into another post spoilered...so it was a real double post...Lol...
And sorry Zona, Xelin is right, it was LMNOP...I just reread it...but you still might wanna take a look.
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On March 29 2010 01:27 meeple wrote:
On the other hand... we really should be hunting red.
I'm with you on this.
I'm not saying that Versatile, tree.hugger, Xelin should be left alone. But we shouldn't focus all our attention there. That's why I started analyzing our lower-postcount players in addition to everything else we've been doing.
In any case, to reiterate what I said in my big post that everyone doesn't seem to have any response to, right now in terms of tangible actions we can either nuke OR wait out the rest of the day and the night. And since nuking with the little information we have on day 1 is likely to hit town, we might as well wait and see more information before we decide who to lynch on day 2.
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Wait...Zona...Just noticed something serious.
We will lynch Caller tomorrow unless Japan steps forward. Whoever Japan was could of made a case for defending caller without ever stepping forward, so I say we lynch Caller.
Caller should have died. No one has defended him. Unless he comes god mode, I say he dies on day 2.
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On March 29 2010 00:06 Zona wrote:
We have 3 nuke-initiators. If we get no further information I'm comfortable lynching any among them. But we haven't even hit the first night yet, why don't we at least wait to see what information surfaces before we talk about an event that's far in the future?
L was so confident that tree.hugger was targeting him and out of all of the people who have been targeted his posts prior to death seem to be the best leads we have. If we are going to prioritize lynching I think he should be first. I'm still not advocating nuking anyone anymore. We have already moved from Very Low to Low ToD. We need to conserve nuke usage. Here's where we need to make sure that we conserve our resources for the late-game (re-hashing 50 pages prior)
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If it's red hunting your looking for the lynching LMNOP has it's value unless people are not swayed by any of my reasons and think he's townie. If he turns green it is somewhat revealing of me (not much as i could certainly be wrong) but still it would make my action all the more suspicious and if red then I would be found innocent. Unless this whole thing was an elaborate ploy in order to killl a fellow red but gain the towns trust, its not though.
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On March 29 2010 01:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
And let me emphasize...Not just because he's N.K. but because he fired a nuke without town judgement, because he fired a nuke unprovoked, and because he fired it anonymously. Why on gods green earth would you admit that?
I mean...I would have to think you were...well I can't take it uncivil, to maybe Versatile will for me?
But, uh...Yea...You seen Japan wouldn't come forward, what makes you think whoever anti'd it would...
i've turned over a new leaf. i feel nothing but kindness towards anyone now. i've got a ukulele, ganja and a bob marley shirt on. life is good.
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On March 29 2010 01:33 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2010 00:06 Zona wrote:
We have 3 nuke-initiators. If we get no further information I'm comfortable lynching any among them. But we haven't even hit the first night yet, why don't we at least wait to see what information surfaces before we talk about an event that's far in the future? L was so confident that tree.hugger was targeting him and out of all of the people who have been targeted his posts prior to death seem to be the best leads we have. If we are going to prioritize lynching I think he should be first. I'm still not advocating nuking anyone anymore. We have already moved from Very Low to Low ToD. We need to conserve nuke usage. Here's where we need to make sure that we conserve our resources for the late-game (re-hashing 50 pages prior)
You're before tree.hugger. I'll call that the "L"ist. You made a case against him for quiet a long ass time arguing we had to lynch him because he's inactive. Then what happened?
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I switched to Abenson. I finally bought into the idea that he would be an asset to the town. Abenson was band-wagon voting L and it was obvious who should have been lynched. Then RoL casted his nuke and the town went with the anti-nuking policy we (I thought) established.
I never had any aggression towards any L post after that and never disagreed with anything he had to say. He wasn't a threat to the town when he was unbanned, and if I could have stopped his death I would have.
If you think I'm before tree.hugger we need to sort this out asap.
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And also note Amber, you were part of my massive post of quotes, just to show the stance on L in the beginning of the game. I could of quoted almost every post of yours and then you just fell off the radar. And now you pop up to point at tree.hugger using L's logic? The same logic you and him both have been discrediting? I think you should take precedent over tree.hugger. You started the bus.
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~OpZ~, I've read your posts on the last two pages, and I have absolutely no idea what you're advocating. Absolutely none. Your wall-of-text has nothing holding it together, I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to prove.
You've advocated Day 2 lynching me, then XeliN, and then Caller over the last two pages.
Please stop spamming the thread. You, Versatile, Abenson, and the rest of your mafia compatriots should probably stop attracting more suspicion.
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On March 29 2010 01:46 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I switched to Abenson. I finally bought into the idea that he would be an asset to the town. Abenson was band-wagon voting L and it was obvious who should have been lynched. Then RoL casted his nuke and the town went with the anti-nuking policy we (I thought) established.
I never had any aggression towards any L post after that and never disagreed with anything he had to say. He wasn't a threat to the town when he was unbanned, and if I could have stopped his death I would have.
If you think I'm before tree.hugger we need to sort this out asap.
RoL did not get lynched because of firing the nuke. Hell he almost got saved for that! Someone built a good case for the last second wanting to switch votes off of him that I was completely up for?
Anyway, no. RoL got lynched because ABENSON IS A MASON WITH ME, AND I ROLECLAIMED. Not to mention I had the perfect claim already set up for when I died. Read the post, it's on page 20 near the top. You obviously missed it.
He wasn't a threat to the town banned.
I want haster and jeejee's opinions on the rest of this too...I gotta go to work, be back in about 9 hours.
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I think we should lynch tree for failing to understand that OpZ and Abenson are Masons. I can hold off my vendetta against LMNOP for now.
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On March 29 2010 01:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
And also note Amber, you were part of my massive post of quotes, just to show the stance on L in the beginning of the game. I could of quoted almost every post of yours and then you just fell off the radar. And now you pop up to point at tree.hugger using L's logic? The same logic you and him both have been discrediting? I think you should take precedent over tree.hugger. You started the bus.
my last post.
I knew the L bandwagon would be a good way to attract the masses. Suspect me if you want, but I never actually believed he would be lynched. My last post switching from L to Abenson:
On March 25 2010 01:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:
ok ok i see whats going on here. There's way too much nonsensical reasoning for lynching L and I'm not going to be part of this bandwagon.
##Vote Abenson
He's the most inactive, has refused to post his reasoning for lynching L, and I'd be willing to give L the benefit of the doubt that he will be helpful in the future.
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