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On February 27 2010 08:19 Malongo wrote:
Thats the most stupid thing you may have said all game long and proves you have no fucking clue about how to play townie. In the most basic sense it says hey! i support virtually any last second badwagon so i dont get killed.
We have over a day left, I'd hardly call that last-second.
We have a number of coasters who barely post anything, and in some cases they literally don't post anything. We know they're active in the game because they vote.
It's good for the town to get people talking. The only way we might possibly get these people talking is to vote for them.
So before you assess my ability to play townie, you might want to think about the situation we have just a little bit harder.
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chez should reveal to the world what he has done as detective the past 4 nights
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Foolishness your defense of Chez is "read the thread carefully." Instead, how about you provide anything to defend him, because I'm very confident he's not a DT.
I am, however, less confident about L being mafia. But I really don't see the case against tree.hugger. I don't see any solid clue links to him. Yes occasionally part of a tree appears but that's about it, I'd hardly consider that solid. And yes a bunch of innocent people voted for him on day 3....but how does that prove anything?
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On February 27 2010 08:35 Scamp wrote:
Foolishness your defense of Chez is "read the thread carefully." Instead, how about you provide anything to defend him, because I'm very confident he's not a DT.
I am, however, less confident about L being mafia. But I really don't see the case against tree.hugger. I don't see any solid clue links to him. Yes occasionally part of a tree appears but that's about it, I'd hardly consider that solid. And yes a bunch of innocent people voted for him on day 3....but how does that prove anything?
Ver's got a truckton of analysis done on tree.hugger, and his main point is one that becomes stronger every day.
Tree.hugger just got raped in the last game because of inactivity. This game he posts that the town shouldn't be inactive, then GOES AFK FOR FOUR DAYS.
The clues against him aren't perfect, but they never really are. Originally I didn't want to hit tree.hugger because OhNhas a 'tree' as a centerpoint of his profile. That changed recently when I figured out that the following clue (which seems like a gimme to finger shockey off of, given our previous discussions. I thought it would be odd for incog to throw out a blatant clue based directly on what we had fingered shockey for, so I looked through profiles again to see if anything caught my eye.
Here's the profile bit:
"No matter how dark the night, morning always comes, and our journey begins anew."
Here's the clue:
At home, l10f was busy compiling a list of suspects, frantic after his long night’s work. Fearing that his death was imminent, he proceeded to hide his findings in his house, hoping that some diligent townsperson would come along to find his work. Unfortunately, l10f did not know the nature of his fate. While hiding the last pieces of his information under the tile between the kitchen and the dining room, l10f thought he saw a shimmer of hope. Beyond the clouds in a distance l10f saw the sun piercing through the clouds. His hope soon turned into puzzlement when he remembered that it was 2am in the morning. Thinking that he still had some time before his death, l10f had no time to think as a lightning bolt struck from behind the cloud and sent an electric volt surging through his body. The whole house erupted into flames as a result of the lightning strike, and l10f knew that his work was in vain. As the light behind the clouds began to fade, l10f’s mind began to race as he thought of his new beginning in heaven… Links incredibly strongly to:
"No matter how dark the night, morning always comes, and our journey begins anew."
The reason I haven't really posted this until today was that I was hoping tree.hugger would die so that I'd get clarification on whether or not ohN's clues are tree related or not. If that's so, then this could be shockey instead. The 2 am morning, however, as well as the our DT going to heaven and starting a journey anew seem pretty strong though.
Anyways, I won't really be done getting candidates for every clue section until tomorrow because there are a number I'm still debating about. And Malongo, I know you put some work up, but you're a grand total of one person, and that doesn't really add up to the town as a whole trying to fucking do work. At least Fishball was regularly PMing me and trying to put together ideas and a plan to go forward.
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i hope you guys even the numbers and get atleast one sumiyoshi
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Wow i'm good at proof reading. Thought I left that bit out, but I put it in twice instead.
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On February 27 2010 08:54 L wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:35 Scamp wrote:
Foolishness your defense of Chez is "read the thread carefully." Instead, how about you provide anything to defend him, because I'm very confident he's not a DT.
I am, however, less confident about L being mafia. But I really don't see the case against tree.hugger. I don't see any solid clue links to him. Yes occasionally part of a tree appears but that's about it, I'd hardly consider that solid. And yes a bunch of innocent people voted for him on day 3....but how does that prove anything? Ver's got a truckton of analysis done on tree.hugger, and his main point is one that becomes stronger every day. Tree.hugger just got raped in the last game because of inactivity. This game he posts that the town shouldn't be inactive, then GOES AFK FOR FOUR DAYS. The clues against him aren't perfect, but they never really are. Originally I didn't want to hit tree.hugger because OhNhas a 'tree' as a centerpoint of his profile. That changed recently when I figured out that the following clue (which seems like a gimme to finger shockey off of, given our previous discussions. I thought it would be odd for incog to throw out a blatant clue based directly on what we had fingered shockey for, so I looked through profiles again to see if anything caught my eye. Here's the profile bit: Show nested quote +"No matter how dark the night, morning always comes, and our journey begins anew." Here's the clue: Show nested quote +At home, l10f was busy compiling a list of suspects, frantic after his long night’s work. Fearing that his death was imminent, he proceeded to hide his findings in his house, hoping that some diligent townsperson would come along to find his work. Unfortunately, l10f did not know the nature of his fate. While hiding the last pieces of his information under the tile between the kitchen and the dining room, l10f thought he saw a shimmer of hope. Beyond the clouds in a distance l10f saw the sun piercing through the clouds. His hope soon turned into puzzlement when he remembered that it was 2am in the morning. Thinking that he still had some time before his death, l10f had no time to think as a lightning bolt struck from behind the cloud and sent an electric volt surging through his body. The whole house erupted into flames as a result of the lightning strike, and l10f knew that his work was in vain. As the light behind the clouds began to fade, l10f’s mind began to race as he thought of his new beginning in heaven… Links incredibly strongly to: Show nested quote +"No matter how dark the night, morning always comes, and our journey begins anew." The reason I haven't really posted this until today was that I was hoping tree.hugger would die so that I'd get clarification on whether or not ohN's clues are tree related or not. If that's so, then this could be shockey instead. The 2 am morning, however, as well as the our DT going to heaven and starting a journey anew seem pretty strong though. Anyways, I won't really be done getting candidates for every clue section until tomorrow because there are a number I'm still debating about. And Malongo, I know you put some work up, but you're a grand total of one person, and that doesn't really add up to the town as a whole trying to fucking do work. At least Fishball was regularly PMing me and trying to put together ideas and a plan to go forward.
I agree that the clue to treehugger is very good. I proposed a half decent plan but got shitblocked by a stupid mayor. No comments there. If you want me to pm you regularly you have to do better next time bro 
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On February 27 2010 08:12 Iaaan wrote:
To justify my vote:
The people I think that are most likely mafia at this point are sidesprang, Johnnyspazz, opz, Tree.hugger, and maybe shocckey.
The reason to vote to lynch Chezinu is because the way I see it he is a little suspicious, but it is also very possible that he is the DT. Him flipping DT proves the innocence of vivi and hobbes, the people that he claimed to rolecheck, and him flipping red kills a red, lol. At this point when there are so few town aligned people left, if we can be sure of who are townies, then that narrows down the possibility of finding mafia members by alot. Plus at this point I think the DT is less useful then before, since they will have used all their rolechecks.
There are no limitations to the number of times that you may use each ability throughout the course of the game.
Thus the reason to keep me alive as long as possible. Seriously, if the other mafia thought I was mafia they would have killed me. Please, let the other mafia kill me. It will allow us to have another rolecheck. It is illogical to lynch me now.
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Wow Malongo. Just wow.
I agree strongly that tree.hugger needs to post.
Also who the hell is Tredmasta?
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On February 27 2010 09:40 Scamp wrote:
Wow Malongo. Just wow.
I agree strongly that tree.hugger needs to post.
Also who the hell is Tredmasta?
What do you want me to do¿ i rather lynch jonny but the town doesnt want.
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Circle Members: Please Pm me who you think we should lynch today. I will vote accordingly. Except I won't vote L for obvious reasons.
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On February 27 2010 09:40 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:12 Iaaan wrote:
To justify my vote:
The people I think that are most likely mafia at this point are sidesprang, Johnnyspazz, opz, Tree.hugger, and maybe shocckey.
The reason to vote to lynch Chezinu is because the way I see it he is a little suspicious, but it is also very possible that he is the DT. Him flipping DT proves the innocence of vivi and hobbes, the people that he claimed to rolecheck, and him flipping red kills a red, lol. At this point when there are so few town aligned people left, if we can be sure of who are townies, then that narrows down the possibility of finding mafia members by alot. Plus at this point I think the DT is less useful then before, since they will have used all their rolechecks. There are no limitations to the number of times that you may use each ability throughout the course of the game. Thus the reason to keep me alive as long as possible. Seriously, if the other mafia thought I was mafia they would have killed me. Please, let the other mafia kill me. It will allow us to have another rolecheck. It is illogical to lynch me now.
Post finds now please.
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On February 27 2010 09:57 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 09:40 Chezinu wrote:On February 27 2010 08:12 Iaaan wrote:
To justify my vote:
The people I think that are most likely mafia at this point are sidesprang, Johnnyspazz, opz, Tree.hugger, and maybe shocckey.
The reason to vote to lynch Chezinu is because the way I see it he is a little suspicious, but it is also very possible that he is the DT. Him flipping DT proves the innocence of vivi and hobbes, the people that he claimed to rolecheck, and him flipping red kills a red, lol. At this point when there are so few town aligned people left, if we can be sure of who are townies, then that narrows down the possibility of finding mafia members by alot. Plus at this point I think the DT is less useful then before, since they will have used all their rolechecks. There are no limitations to the number of times that you may use each ability throughout the course of the game. Thus the reason to keep me alive as long as possible. Seriously, if the other mafia thought I was mafia they would have killed me. Please, let the other mafia kill me. It will allow us to have another rolecheck. It is illogical to lynch me now. Post finds now please.
I will post them only with the consent of the members of the Circle.
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Hey laaan. How come you don't mention me in that comment of yours in the voting thread?
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The Circle Goes Public!
Circle Members:
+ Show Spoiler +Chezinu
[NyC]HoBbes
Vivi57
Foolishness
Iaaan
Player list:
+ Show Spoiler +5. johnnyspazz
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
12. Amber[Light]
16. dozko
18. tree.hugger
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu
24. Scamp
26. L (Pardoner)
28. Iaaan
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
38. CynanMachae
40. tredmasta
44.[NyC]HoBbes
45. Versatile
47. Malongo
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman
Possible hit list targets:
+ Show Spoiler +5. johnnyspazz
11. XeliN
12. Amber[Light]
16. dozko
18. tree.hugger
19. ShoCkeyy
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
38. CynanMachae
40. tredmasta
45. Versatile
47. Malongo
51. madnessman
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you are telling this is the DT rolechecklist¿... lawl.
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On February 27 2010 11:59 Malongo wrote:
you are telling this is the DT rolechecklist¿... lawl.
yeah, rolechecking town > rolechecking mafia obv.
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On February 27 2010 11:04 Chezinu wrote:The Circle Goes Public! Circle Members: + Show Spoiler +Chezinu
[NyC]HoBbes
Vivi57
Foolishness
Iaaan Player list: + Show Spoiler +5. johnnyspazz
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
12. Amber[Light]
16. dozko
18. tree.hugger
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu
24. Scamp
26. L (Pardoner)
28. Iaaan
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
38. CynanMachae
40. tredmasta
44.[NyC]HoBbes
45. Versatile
47. Malongo
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman Possible hit list targets: + Show Spoiler +5. johnnyspazz
11. XeliN
12. Amber[Light]
16. dozko
18. tree.hugger
19. ShoCkeyy
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
38. CynanMachae
40. tredmasta
45. Versatile
47. Malongo
51. madnessman
*fixed
Limbo players:
+ Show Spoiler +
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On February 27 2010 08:54 L wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:35 Scamp wrote:
Foolishness your defense of Chez is "read the thread carefully." Instead, how about you provide anything to defend him, because I'm very confident he's not a DT.
I am, however, less confident about L being mafia. But I really don't see the case against tree.hugger. I don't see any solid clue links to him. Yes occasionally part of a tree appears but that's about it, I'd hardly consider that solid. And yes a bunch of innocent people voted for him on day 3....but how does that prove anything? Ver's got a truckton of analysis done on tree.hugger, and his main point is one that becomes stronger every day. Tree.hugger just got raped in the last game because of inactivity. This game he posts that the town shouldn't be inactive, then GOES AFK FOR FOUR DAYS. The clues against him aren't perfect, but they never really are. Originally I didn't want to hit tree.hugger because OhNhas a 'tree' as a centerpoint of his profile. That changed recently when I figured out that the following clue (which seems like a gimme to finger shockey off of, given our previous discussions. I thought it would be odd for incog to throw out a blatant clue based directly on what we had fingered shockey for, so I looked through profiles again to see if anything caught my eye. Here's the profile bit: Show nested quote +"No matter how dark the night, morning always comes, and our journey begins anew." Here's the clue: Show nested quote +At home, l10f was busy compiling a list of suspects, frantic after his long night’s work. Fearing that his death was imminent, he proceeded to hide his findings in his house, hoping that some diligent townsperson would come along to find his work. Unfortunately, l10f did not know the nature of his fate. While hiding the last pieces of his information under the tile between the kitchen and the dining room, l10f thought he saw a shimmer of hope. Beyond the clouds in a distance l10f saw the sun piercing through the clouds. His hope soon turned into puzzlement when he remembered that it was 2am in the morning. Thinking that he still had some time before his death, l10f had no time to think as a lightning bolt struck from behind the cloud and sent an electric volt surging through his body. The whole house erupted into flames as a result of the lightning strike, and l10f knew that his work was in vain. As the light behind the clouds began to fade, l10f’s mind began to race as he thought of his new beginning in heaven… Links incredibly strongly to: Show nested quote +"No matter how dark the night, morning always comes, and our journey begins anew." The reason I haven't really posted this until today was that I was hoping tree.hugger would die so that I'd get clarification on whether or not ohN's clues are tree related or not. If that's so, then this could be shockey instead. The 2 am morning, however, as well as the our DT going to heaven and starting a journey anew seem pretty strong though. Anyways, I won't really be done getting candidates for every clue section until tomorrow because there are a number I'm still debating about. And Malongo, I know you put some work up, but you're a grand total of one person, and that doesn't really add up to the town as a whole trying to fucking do work. At least Fishball was regularly PMing me and trying to put together ideas and a plan to go forward.
Wait what?
How on earth does that point to me? You quoted ohN's profile twice, and apparently that links to me? What?
Essentially, you're saying that ohN is clearly mafia, and therefore, because he's clearly mafia, than I'm also mafia? And Ver didn't have evidence against me, he had suspicions. If he had anything conclusive on me, a rolecheck, or anything, he would never have advocated people switch their votes to Quickstriker. The reason that Ver didn't continue to advocate for my unjust lynching, was because he had doubts against me, and because he knew QS was mafia. It's dishonest for you to suggest that Ver was sure about my affiliations at all.
He raised the question of my inactivity, and I answered it honestly, and as best I could. I am in a show (opening night was tonight, went off well, if you're interested) It's perfectly reasonable that all of us may have times which we can't stalk the mafia thread, and with 80+ posts in the first few days, I wasn't at all worried enough about activity to go out of my way to post a long analysis every hour. Now that I've seen activity go down, I've tried to be a little more active.
Here's something for you to explain L.
You advocated many of us vote to kill Redtooth, and I, along with many others went along with you on that vote. You publically stated on several occasions that if Redtooth were not mafia, you would consent to be lynched. I took it as an indication of your certainty. Promptly after Redtooth was shown to be town-aligned, you posted;
On February 22 2010 09:40 L wrote:
Well, I'm dead. Peace.
Now, as one of this game's most prolific posters, with a strong interest in these games, I doubt anyone was fooled by this sudden depression, and hopelessness. I expected that, come the next day post, you would pitch head first back into the game, supposedly revitalized.
I'm not very confident that you're mafia L, but neither do I believe this faux change of heart act that you put on after being wrong about Redtooth. Would a town-aligned player of your interest really be willing to voluntarily lynch themselves, especially if the town were in dire straights. Doubt it.
Instead, it's entirely plausible, and probably pretty wise that to head off criticism of your errant judgment, you simply took the blame, allowed yourself to be crucified while nobody was paying attention, and then pitched back into the game later.
Again, I'm not willing to vote for you to be lynched, but quite a few other people are willing to take you up on your offer to be lynched. I think it's up to you to defend yourself, and not obfuscate the issue by taking bizarre and disingenuous shots at me.
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I do not understand whats with the sudden vote shifts. Its like everything that has been discussed the previous day gets thrown out of the window in the morning.
People voting for jspazz I can understand, I firmly believe he is mafia due to his earlier voting patterns (+ the fact that he radically changed them after my post was out) and due to the words of his fellow scum. Given that I already wrote loads on that and that his posting pattern is plainly red I dont understand why we are sparing him any longer?
L i can also understand, I mean intentionally or not the fact is he screwed us over and his subsequent posts did not really offer any reparations so to speak. However as I have previously stated I do not think he is red but I can get why people want to get rid of him out of anger and the desire to satisfy their curiosity.
Here's two things I do not understand though. Firstly why are people voting Chez off ? Surely he proved himself by the QS lynch (unless I missed something here), else we'd still be looking at a sumiyoshi family with 3 kp. So why are people suddenly voting for him, surely there are much better candidates? It does not make any sense; people voting for him have no justification in my eyes apart from random selection.
The other person not collecting any votes, which I find surprising, is tree.hugger. I mean I played in the same game as him and his lack of activity this game seems highly suspicious. Plus I thought ver's postmortem (ha) analysis was very convincing.
I think the only clear lynch right now should be jspazz. I would very much appreciate it if people voting for Chezinu could post their reasons, especially my earlier suspect XeliN who I dont want people to lose sight of; and Abenson, whose entire game participation consists of 1 liner posts and yet he is always quick to vote on an uncertain lynch. To me it seems like he might be the puppet of a more experienced mafioso.
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