TL Mafia XV - Page 6

Shutting up about stuff will work if they aren't watching carefully, still, you should think about protecting yourself tonight.

Normally I wouldn't lie, but that's because I wouldn't have made the mistake of pretty much claiming in the first place. The idea is to only reveal things that need to be revealed, but be candid and open about the things that are.

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I thought you were against lying to the town? I chose not to address the issue figuring some would overlook it. It was either that or lie. I made say that I was a vigi and that I hit L that way the incentive to kill me isn't really there

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Well, just ask then. You have my msn. Its kinda hard to forward every single PM I get, b/c this site has a buttfucking terrible PM system T_T.

You might want to claim as a vig or hatter or something that isn't a medic, too. That would kinda explain why we're talking in PMs, but it wouldn't get us raped. Can you protect yourself? Might be the best plan of action.

Just something to think over.

Time for me to get some zzz.

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lol you need to share your glorious PMs with other people then. I really didn't reveal much to mafia anyway. Either you are Shikyo is the godfather most likely. You both know my role. Sorry to mess up your plan <3 Lets just hope scamp dies tonight then.

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See, that's the problem, there is no mess. We have the shikyo issue to deal with and that's pretty much it. Once we have him confirmed as GF or DT, we win the game.

Tonight I was going to pick the same person for shikyo and sugi to check, give you the name, then tell them both to check. Both of them would have to reply to me and to you about the result and if we got a match, he's not the GF.

Sugi, instead of me would take over as the mouth of the blues since she would be confirmed whereas I'm not 100% confirmed because of the GF possibility, you would protect sugi, and sugi would tell shikyo who to check, and would direct the town lynch vote so that mafia couldn't have us lynch people who are confirmed.

If he is the GF, lol we win. We kill him and basically cruise our way to an easy math win with DT checks ruling out other people and an increasingly large town controlled voting block would form.


That was the plan. The game was over.

So why the fuck did we just throw down our perfect hand and ask for a new one the moment scamp starts bitching like he's been doing since day 1? Why would we let him of all people make us reveal A DT AND A MEDIC? I seriously don't get this.

Also: if you wanted my PMs from shikyo, i could have forwarded all of them to you in like 2 minutes the moment you asked. You're confirmed to me, all the information I have I'm perfectly cool with giving to you.

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Yeah I am aware, should I just make another post saying I am medic? It doesn't really matter. After this night you should be able to clean up rest of the mess that is left. Or at least Sugdori should be able to.

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You basically just roleclaimed to the town, especially when they know you're now talking with us, but sugi has you as green and they know both sugi and shikyo haven't checked you.

ok lol, i'm going to get some icecream because that' sall i can eat, brb.

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My shits updating.
Won't let me on until after that.
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I added you, are you on?

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I will not ever change my main screen name until I die. Perhaps only add another one for business purposes :D

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lol linkin park.

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my msn is linkinparrk2289@hotmail.com
I just rarely ever go on.

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DONT HAVE AIM, GET A BETTER FUCKING IM PROGRAM FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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Shikyo was using Chezinu according to BC though. He showed me a PM where he had Chezinu send PM's to Vivi and scamp to see how fast they would respond.

He was either fishing for blues or reds. I will send you the PM's I have them on aim.

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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I already PMed Shikyo. T_T

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Yeah, this is worrisome, i need to reflect.

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lol what if Shikyo was somehow mafia or just rolecalled a DT and said he confirmed you (because they obviously know you aren't mafia) and you couldn't prove that he is lying or anything either, because even if you were bluffing his sanity could be fucked up.

Just want to keep that out there just in case its possible.

I say you PM that info to SugDori maybe? I think shes safe so far. I will probably end up protecting her tonight

Oh and I also never thought Shikyo's behavior looked mafioso so I am not too worried. Its just if he is, its your ass and mine. They can just lynch you and the mafia doesn't have to waste the KP to do it.[/quote[

After I sent this I had realized what happened and that I could of protected a mafia. I was annoyed and made him go public with my claim

really? fuckers.

NEVERMIND.

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Nah I already thought of that. Since they must be blue under any circumstance if a DT checks them they AUTOMATICALLY know the blue. So Qatol and Ver said that regardless of sanity they come back blue and they wouldn't even let us check them in the first place.

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Its easier than that. Someone can check pyrr or if they checked Ace.

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Based on sanity and the hopes of a DT still being alive (probable) there is a 1/3rd chance that he will see you as a legitimate blue.
We know Ace saw mafia as Medic in Judge so I don't think they will reuse that sanity. So your chance is probably more like 2/5 40% instead of 33%.

Post that if you want.

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I'm going to ask. If i pop veteran on a blue check, i'm obv legit.

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SOUNDS GOOD BRO.
I still wonder if there is a second DT. IF we can confirm you somehow that would be great.

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I will post that it could have been bomb 2, since you shouldn't put your neck out and get connected with what happened. Might make it rather obvious that you're the other person I'm talking to, and we rather don't want that unless we can capitalize on that claim.

Bonus?

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Sounds good to me. I don't think there is any good plan that can make me come out in the open though. I can't be protected since, well. I am the medic T_T

Post what you said, and I will post that it could of been DreamFlower's second bomb.

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well, that's the thing, I haven't thought through all of this yet and I rather would like you to not die, seeing as mafia or a vig or a hatter or something wanted me dead.

Pretty standard timing too, i've died on day 2 like the past 5 games.

I'll post that there was another hit and that the medic saved me, and that we might be cooking up a plan. is that good with you?

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What did you have in mind? It better be really good if it involves you not posting that I protected you T_T That just makes me a safe kill if you're mafia. Otherwise if I die, you die.

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You don't want me to plannify this? I was thinking I'd have everyone claim to you b/c you're our first confirmed townsfolken.

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Whatever, haha Ace is a fuck. Post that the medic PMed you in the thread and that you were protected last night. I will be content with that.

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DIDNT ROLECALL B/C ACE DIDNT CHECK THE LYNCH TARGET, SO HIS SANITY WOULDNT HAVE BEEN FOUND. DUMB FUCKER.

GIVE ME SOME HOTPOCKETZ TOO.
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WHY THE FUCK IDDNT YOU ROLE CALL YOU ASSHOLE? YOU MADE MY PLAN LOOK SHITTY. YOU EVEN SAID THERE MIGHT NOT BE ONE.

I HATE YOU.

BUT ITZ KEWL CUZ I GUT HOTPOCKETZ

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LOL ACTUALLY IM THE VETERAN, SO I'D BE ALIVE ANYWAYS BRO.

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LOL I JUST REALIZED I AM A FUCKING IDIOT. I PROBABLY PROTECTED YOU FROM DF. YOU COULD STILL BE MAFIA!

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AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAH, I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE NOTIFYING DEM THREADS.

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I PROTECTED YOUR PUNK ASS GIVE ME LOVE

Might be 2 hatters, we have no idea. His vivi pm seems to indicate that he was, at the least, bluffing having hatter bombs.

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Chez role claimed hatter?

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We can discuss protection during the night. There have been multiple decent players who are doing close to nothing this game, which means they're either blue or red. BC, Chez for instance, come to mind. If Chez changes his voting pattern tomorrow, for instance, it'll be pretty obvious that he was a hatter. As for BC, I have no idea why he's singing through the thread if there's only one medic. Its possible he's a vig, but it might just be he's green and bored.

Without clues I really can't get that 100% certainty on people that i'd like prior to lynches : (.

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I agree, and if you out me in public it gives you an excuse to kill me and get away with it. I agree with you. Do you think I should protect you or look for other targets the following night? I can assure you stay alive (which is a given almost anyway) or I can try to figure out who to protect. You can feel free to help me pick another target if you want.

That being said, I am little confused what to think about pyrr and BC. I am bias when it comes to them, so I want your opinion. I feel like BC avoided the whole Ace thing to try to stay not suspicious, because when I talked to him he seemed to agree. The same goes for Pyrry, he hasn't been playing as well and he gives me decent reasons for his lack of activity, but his overall play and logic is just so much worse. Possibly from being off his ADD meds, but I am not sure. I only other thing is I asked him to put his second vote on Ace so a vote switch didn't get me or amber killed and he didn't do it and never really gave me an answer.

BC is the one I actually think might be mafia out of everyone.

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Different situation today gave me a different goal. Because I was claimed to, and I now have the ability to form a group of confirmed townies. In order to confirm myself I needed to reach out and ask to see if a second DT was in the game. The only alternative would have been to out you to the public to get blue names, but the problem would be that you would die in the process.

At this point I don't want to die for the above reasons whereas before I wanted to get hit. Now that they know i'm going to take 2 days of full kp, i'm almost unhittable from a mafia perspective which gives me enough protection to stay alive while a DT finishes their sanity check and then confirms my role. At that point I become a mouth for every blue in the game, and we win relatively quickly.
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WIth that logic, what was the point in claiming Vet now? You got protected, you just needed to say you were protected. Not that you were a vet (which means they won't try and hit you again most likely) While the plan prior gave them incentive to try and kill you.

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The reasoning is pretty obvious; The job of a vet is to get hit. Claiming when we don't achieve the goal that we set out to achieve under conditions when I know i'm going to get hit completely invalidates the role.

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I posted how we can continue with the Vet plan. I still think you should of role claimed earlier and don't get why you didn't, I don't get the reasoning. Even if Ace said he checked Judge, before he even came forward with that I think I said the Vet should of role called then.

Oh and if you have Aim, mine is linkinparrk2289 I am doing HW and can't kep checking TL PM's

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As much as that's probably true, I'm still not confirmed to the town. I might be soon, though : ).

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Chances are you were a mafia hit. Dreamflower posted how he agreed with you and never sad anything about you.

"I find myself agreeing with Infundibulum and, of all people, L. We don't know if there are any veterans this game at all, considering with the low Mafia KP that they barely seem necessary. In which case it would become quite messy if anyone decides to falsely roleclaim, which has been known to happen."

This is the only thing he really said in relation to you or incognito. Chances are incognito was his other bomb victim.

On November 10 2009 15:57 L wrote:
In retrospect, you never gave me hotpockets.