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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 03 2009 20:06 GMT
#1194
On November 03 2009 22:24 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 19:48 Scamp wrote:
Was there anyone out there that was of the opinion that Vivi and Redtooth were both mafia?


Yes two days ago before we knew what was going on there were a number of players who thought they could be mafia, myself included.


Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "knew what was going on"?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2009 00:18 GMT
#1200
On November 04 2009 06:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
That means before confirmation of her sanity. We "knew what was going on" when we figured out Sugdori's sanity. Scamp you have to stop being retarded too, why would anyone choose Vivi or Redtooth as there godfather? You usually make a player most likely to be checked the godfather. That is to give them that extra protection they need.


The point is that information came out and people didn't switch their votes. The point is that Amber's evidence relies on things before more prevalent information came out, and nothing happened.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2009 00:40 GMT
#1201
It looks like I'm about to be killed by indifference. Such is this game. RoL especially because he's stated, in a manner of speaking, that he does not think I'm a top-3 suspect. Yet he still has his vote on me so I'll die. But I'm also willing to bet that there are others that are just unwilling to change their vote for whatever reason. So let's be frank here.

Why is there no discussion in this thread? I've been awfully critical of L, but the fact remains that he has generated no discussion other than to reply to reply to what I've said. I'll admit I haven't taken the time to make sure that everything I've said is perfectly accurate, but he still hasn't really discussed anything on his own in the thread. There's no need for him to be secretive if he is who he says he is.

But it's not just him. Pyrr has been incredibly silent too. It would have been nice if he could have at least said that my PM to him exists, because it does. Was the death of infundibulum a coincidence or a lucky guess? Did he talk to anyone besides me about being the medic? Did Pyrr pass the info I gave him on to anyone else? I sure don't know because he's not saying anything.

Of course if Pyrr is mafia then he bussed his own mafia member hard for no reason and reduced the mafia's KP by 1 by doing so.

The point is that whatever is leading the town is leading it nowhere. I thought progress was going to be made quickly, but apparently the plan is to sit around and do checks to find one mafia and one godfather. And if that's the case, then there was no need for the double lynch.

If I am to die soon, all I ask is that you do not clear L and Sugiura right away. Again, this is Farfetched theatre, but consider it. The mafia was just reduced to 1 KP and is in dire straights. They need a way to clear themselves beyond a shadow of a doubt in order to live, otherwise the DTs will pick them off easily. They have a medic in their pocket, so they put out a hit on their own member and have the medic protect. No counter claim to the one hit so it must be true.

Again, this is Farfetched. So a few things needed to happen. But there's only one real reason why this scenerio isn't quite plausible.

Sugiura claimed DT and the evidence that Redtooth and Vivi were the same role before Chezinu died. If my scenerio is true then either Sugiura (and company) is a lucky guesser or there was some way to know this. Or maybe there is no way to tell unless one of them died, clearing the other. There was a near instant push on Vivi so if Vivi flipped townie then Redtooth would be cleared. Maybe only Redtooth is mafia.

One thing is for sure, though. Sugi wrote a seemingly angry post about how she'd given us two confirmed mafia but we were voting for Chezinu anyway. I'll go find it. Here it is.

On October 28 2009 18:29 SugiuraMidori wrote:
All right.. I really don't understand wtf you guys are doing now.. I give you two confirmed mafia and you run off and vote for Chez.. just because he's a brown-noser doesn't mean his brown obsession needs to cloud your judgments on the obvious truths laid out upon you :/

If Vivi is voting for Chez, he clearly knows Chez isn't red, as who else would vote for a teammate so early on in the day? PUH-LEAZE~


Oh by the way, this is before she confirmed her sanity.

Amber is coasting like crazy.

Anyway, this was all good fun to type out in case I get killed here.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2009 00:57 GMT
#1203
Well this was when there were three living reds but yeah, I understand the scenerio is unlikely.

Also it seems L of all people just voted to help keep me alive while I was writing that long thing. Will wonders never cease!
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2009 01:08 GMT
#1206
On November 04 2009 09:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Scamp did PM me to say he was suspicious of infundibulum but that quickly became useless because infund died and turned blue.


I had to check the PM I sent you. Re-reading it, I didn't really make it clear as to the intent of the PM. It was more so that someone had the info that Infun claimed medic and protected L the night he claimed he got hit and protected by a medic.

I wasn't fully convinced, though, that Infun wasn't just using me to go after L.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2009 01:20 GMT
#1210
Well there's also the way he's been arguing in the thread alongside me to go after L, as well as a few other things. But yeah, the scenerios you mentioned work too. Plus I don't know if he PMed anyone else. If he's willing to PM me it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility.

I get to sleep now.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2009 04:02 GMT
#1232
Alright GG you guys. No hard feelings death kind of mellows you out.

It's also not easy being green. First time. Outlived four other greens. I can be happy with that.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 07 2009 23:37 GMT
#1375
Wow Pyrr was Mafia the whole time? I didn't see that coming.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 10 2009 13:11 GMT
#1402
On November 10 2009 15:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

So why the fuck did we just throw down our perfect hand and ask for a new one the moment scamp starts bitching like he's been doing since day 1? Why would we let him of all people make us reveal A DT AND A MEDIC? I seriously don't get this.



This I found amusing. I wasn't even around day one or day 2.
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