On July 27 2012 13:21 Porcelina wrote: This is, well, this is cool.
A long time ago, in my youth, I played badminton competitively on a national level. It was the only sport I think I really loved playing, it was exhilarating to simply play. However, I stopped playing upon entering second year of high school, the reason for which escapes me now. Since that time, I have not picked up a racket, seen a shuttle or had anything to do with badminton in any way.
So I saw this thread a couple of hours ago, clicked on a youtube video...
And I have now watched some highlights from both singles and doubles competitions from the last few World Championships and French Opens.
Badminton is amazing. It is really strange to see it on a monitor though, looks very little from what it looks like in the hall. Also, what the hell, when I played, it was customary to forehand serve in singles. And you only won points off your own serve, sets went to 15. What is this.
I am now officially excited about the Olympics. Thank you Team Liquid for letting me rediscover something I loved in my youth.
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Yeah, about 10 years ago they adopted overhead camera angle like in tennis. It allows them to see everything, but unfortunately it's hard to discern the height of the shuttle, which is important for tactical reasons. I prefer the older low perspective camera angles they used about 15 years ago.
The scoring system change came about 6-7 years ago. The reason was that it gave more consistent game lengths which was beneficial for tournament planning and broadcasting. In the old system two defensive players could trade rallies for a long time without ever advancing the score.
As for the high serve in singles, at some level of play players are fast and powerful enough to make strong offensive plays from the rearcourt off a deep serve. They'll actually step out behind the court, jump up and into the court for the smash, then get to the net in about 3 quick steps to finish off the rally.
On July 27 2012 13:21 Porcelina wrote: This is, well, this is cool.
A long time ago, in my youth, I played badminton competitively on a national level. It was the only sport I think I really loved playing, it was exhilarating to simply play. However, I stopped playing upon entering second year of high school, the reason for which escapes me now. Since that time, I have not picked up a racket, seen a shuttle or had anything to do with badminton in any way.
So I saw this thread a couple of hours ago, clicked on a youtube video...
And I have now watched some highlights from both singles and doubles competitions from the last few World Championships and French Opens.
Badminton is amazing. It is really strange to see it on a monitor though, looks very little from what it looks like in the hall. Also, what the hell, when I played, it was customary to forehand serve in singles. And you only won points off your own serve, sets went to 15. What is this.
I am now officially excited about the Olympics. Thank you Team Liquid for letting me rediscover something I loved in my youth.
<3 <3 <3
Yeah, about 10 years ago they adopted overhead camera angle like in tennis. It allows them to see everything, but unfortunately it's hard to discern the height of the shuttle, which is important for tactical reasons. I prefer the older low perspective camera angles they used about 15 years ago.
The scoring system change came about 6-7 years ago. The reason was that it gave more consistent game lengths which was beneficial for tournament planning and broadcasting. In the old system two defensive players could trade rallies for a long time without ever advancing the score.
As for the high serve in singles, at some level of play players are fast and powerful enough to make strong offensive plays from the rearcourt off a deep serve. They'll actually step out behind the court, jump up and into the court for the smash, then get to the net in about 3 quick steps to finish off the rally.
I dont believe your legally allowed to have the racket head and the shuttle above your racket elbow at the point of release. I think by high serves he just meant shitty forehand pokes over the net. The serve arc has to go upwards.
And yeah that serve point rule was a lot less intense. I think the last olympics that had it was 2004.
On July 27 2012 13:21 Porcelina wrote: This is, well, this is cool.
A long time ago, in my youth, I played badminton competitively on a national level. It was the only sport I think I really loved playing, it was exhilarating to simply play. However, I stopped playing upon entering second year of high school, the reason for which escapes me now. Since that time, I have not picked up a racket, seen a shuttle or had anything to do with badminton in any way.
So I saw this thread a couple of hours ago, clicked on a youtube video...
And I have now watched some highlights from both singles and doubles competitions from the last few World Championships and French Opens.
Badminton is amazing. It is really strange to see it on a monitor though, looks very little from what it looks like in the hall. Also, what the hell, when I played, it was customary to forehand serve in singles. And you only won points off your own serve, sets went to 15. What is this.
I am now officially excited about the Olympics. Thank you Team Liquid for letting me rediscover something I loved in my youth.
<3 <3 <3
Similar story here, but I had to stop in my last year U17 because of my knee, in which I took an arrow (in fact it is so damaged that doctors told me it will be painful to play for the rest of my life, and they didnt lie). You should try to give it a second shot now, this is truly the best sport ever
On the monitor it feels the court is so small and that the players barely move. I recall a friend watching some videos and then taunteing me this sport seemed easy, a friendly taunt but with a little feeling of incredulity. I can tell you the surprise on his face when we played together and he saw that "wait, do I actually have to make 3-4 steps to get to the end starting form half the court in THAT SHORT time ? And why does it seem you don't move at all while I am practically death after 15 minutes ?" was priceless.
Also, the speed of the shuttle is hard to grasp when you aren't used to it ; at the French Open some years ago, some friends had hard times following men's or mixed doubles and were amazed at how players could get every shuttle for 8 or more folowing smashes . Finally, most "noobs" think that to get the shuttle far enough in the court you have to make a tennis-like enormous slash with all their might and arm, and are quite surprised to see that wrist action is often enough (not speaking about real conditions)
On July 27 2012 13:21 Porcelina wrote: This is, well, this is cool.
A long time ago, in my youth, I played badminton competitively on a national level. It was the only sport I think I really loved playing, it was exhilarating to simply play. However, I stopped playing upon entering second year of high school, the reason for which escapes me now. Since that time, I have not picked up a racket, seen a shuttle or had anything to do with badminton in any way.
So I saw this thread a couple of hours ago, clicked on a youtube video...
And I have now watched some highlights from both singles and doubles competitions from the last few World Championships and French Opens.
Badminton is amazing. It is really strange to see it on a monitor though, looks very little from what it looks like in the hall. Also, what the hell, when I played, it was customary to forehand serve in singles. And you only won points off your own serve, sets went to 15. What is this.
I am now officially excited about the Olympics. Thank you Team Liquid for letting me rediscover something I loved in my youth.
<3 <3 <3
The thing with a high clear serve is that it gives your opponent control of the rally right away. They can clear, smash, drop, and more from a high clear serve. When you serve short, all they can do is either clear, drop, or push the birdie which is easier to deal with than the possibility of smashing. When I was in China for training, trying high clear serves for the lawls, the kids over there would always smash that clear. They have fantastic smashes...
High clear serve is really only used if you are a very slow, controlling player or for BM
Similar story here, but I had to stop in my last year U17 because of my knee, in which I took an arrow (in fact it is so damaged that doctors told me it will be painful to play for the rest of my life, and they didnt lie). You should try to give it a second shot now, this is truly the best sport ever
Same man, I was on national team for U11, U13 until my knees became fucked up from injuries. I had oswald schlatter on both knees for 2 years, then I could play for a year, then I tore my ACL in my right knee from a skiing accident, meaning I couldn't play for another 3 years then combined with ankle injuries, I don't think that I can play professionally as I wished I could. There is the possibility that I will be able to get back in during college (entering this fall) but it takes 10 years of hard training to become a professional regardless.
Havent watched badminton in ages, used to be an avid player myself (7 years long 6 days a week) and I'm sure as hell gonna watch this! Thanks for making this a thread :D
Mens Singles: 1) Lee Chong Wei, 2) Lin Dan, 3) Chen Long Mens Doubles: 1) Cai/Fu, 2) Jung/Lee, 3) Boe/Mogensen Womens Singles: 1) Wang Yihan, 2) Li Xuerui, 3) Wang Xin Womens Doubles: 1) Wang/Yu, 2) Tian/Zhao, 3) Ha/Kim Mixed Doubles: 1) Xu/Ma, 2) Zhang/Zhao, 3) Ahmad/Natsir Country by Gold medals: 1) China, 2) Korea, 3) Malaysia Country by total medals: 1) China, 2) Korea, 3) Denmark
For those wondering about why high serve isn't used much anymore, watch the 2nd point of this match. Granted, this is Lin Dan, badminton god. Watch from 5:00.
Mens Singles: 1) Lin Dan, 2) Lee Chong Wei, 3) Taufik Hidayat Mens Doubles: 1)Jung/Lee, 2)Cai/Fu , 3) Boe/Morg Womens Singles: 1) Li Xuerui, 2) Wang Yihan, 3) Wang Shixian Womens Doubles: 1) Wang/Yu, 2) Tian/Zhao, 3) Ha/Kim Mixed Doubles: 1) Xu/Ma, 2) Zhang/Zhao, 3) Ahmad/Natsir
Country by Gold medals: 1) China, 2) Korea, 3) Malaysia (although I dont think golds are going outside China and Korea) Country by Medals : 1) China, 2) Korea 3) Malaysia
On July 28 2012 08:30 Rebs wrote: Mens Singles: 1) Lin Dan, 2) Lee Chong Wei, 3) Taufik Hidayat Mens Doubles: 1)Jung/Lee, 2)Cai/Fu , 3) Boe/Morg Womens Singles: 1) Li Xuerui, 2) Wang Yihan, 3) Wang Shixian Womens Doubles: 1) Wang/Yu, 2) Tian/Zhao, 3) Ha/Kim Mixed Doubles: 1) Xu/Ma, 2) Zhang/Zhao, 3) Ahmad/Natsir
Country by Gold medals: 1) China, 2) Korea, 3) Malaysia (although I dont think golds are going outside China and Korea) Country by Medals : 1) China, 2) Korea 3) Malaysia
The BBC literally has the most amazing coverage of 2012 I've ever seen. Literally has streams of every sport and you are able to rewind like MLG player.
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