Not sure what happened the last point, I think Chen complains that Zwiebler reached over the net to block that shot?

Edit: oh shit I'm a dragoon now, hopefully I still remember how to walk properly.

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

August 01 2012 17:58 GMT

#386

On August 02 2012 02:53 Kipsate wrote:
Looks like Zwiebler is running out of energy?

Pretty much. But I'm not sure his racket really was over the net for the last point

Count9

China10928 Posts

August 01 2012 18:00 GMT

#387

On August 02 2012 02:53 Niflheim wrote:
Actually it is different because the swimmers don't usually know what is needed to place.. they still have to put in a good effort (especially those in the first heats where no qualification line has yet been drawn) and it is up to them to gauge how much effort to put in to get far enough. Those badminton players just threw the games... there was no effort put into those matches and even if you are drawing a parallel between the two.. what happens when you put in no effort into swimming your heat? you don't place into the finals..

It's not no effort, there is no difference because in qualifying round you just have to do enough. In swimming and running enough is a time, it's usually not the optimal time where you try 100% and go all out, it's up to you to gauge how hard you try. In badminton enough is a number of wins, they've won enough in the qualifying rounds. If you work really hard for the first 150m and on the turn you see your 1.5 seconds ahead then for the final 50m you're gonna start taking it easy, and if while taking it easy you give up the lead to a sprinter then so be it. You're still consciously trying to not win the heat by going slower than your opponents because you've already worked hard for a good time. If you win the first 2 games of your group then you can take it easy the last game. The only difference is that it's obvious to "normal" viewers that the badminton duo threw while not as obvious that a swimmer didn't win his heat on purpose, it just looks like the second/third place guy was catching up. What the olympics are punishing is the obviousness of the throw, which I don't think should warrant a dq at least not for the reason it's against the spirit of the games when other sports do this blatantly but definitely warnings.

Anyways, arguing this is kinda derailing, kinda like arguing the naniwa's probe rush and detracting from a good men's quarterfinals. Was very close for the first 15 points but it's opening up now, zwibeler looks like he's just downright tired, took a lot of breaks in the first 10 pts.

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

August 01 2012 18:00 GMT

#388

Looks like the snowball is rolling though, Zwiebler is tilting a bit, losing composure.

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

August 01 2012 18:00 GMT

#389

On August 02 2012 02:58 Nos- wrote:
Not sure what happened the last point, I think Chen complains that Zwiebler reached over the net to block that shot?

Edit: oh shit I'm a dragoon now, hopefully I still remember how to walk properly.

Grats dude! The tip was too much over. I did the same thing at Pan Am games in 2004 and it got me a red card 0.o

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

August 01 2012 18:03 GMT

#390

Chen's running away with this game. Zwiebler looks dead on court.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

August 01 2012 18:03 GMT

#391

Chen's cross smashes are surgical and Zwiebler looks completely worn out. Chen is running away with this game and there looks to be little hope for the German player.

Count9

China10928 Posts

August 01 2012 18:05 GMT

#392

18-7, pretty much insurmountable lead, disappointing finish to a good start to the third game

Hydrolisko

Vanuatu1659 Posts

August 01 2012 18:06 GMT

#393

I think people are really saying the format is the most at fault. Of course the players aren't excused, they are at fault as well. I tend to agree with that. Have you tried your best at something knowing that it's best you fail or lose? It basically is impossible to give 100% even if you told yourself to do so. So even if all those teams actually tried to try their best, we would've still seen a crap game. That is why the format is the biggest problem. Still, though, players should have tried their best and they didn't. So they are at fault as well, and should surely be responsible. The small injustice (and I emphasize "small") here is that the players were driven to do what they did by a faulty system, and ended up being disqualified for it.

Hydrolisko

Vanuatu1659 Posts

August 01 2012 18:06 GMT

#394

how do i watch the Chen game?... I see a doubles and a peter game v some SK player.

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

August 01 2012 18:07 GMT

#395

On August 02 2012 03:06 Hydrolisko wrote:
how do i watch the Chen game?... I see a doubles and a peter game v some SK player.

fast forward the Gade game. I assume you are on BBC

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

August 01 2012 18:08 GMT

#396

http://www.sportlemon.tv/v-4/2/106/v-430654.html

also sweet mother of god that was good play by Chen, even Zwiebler applauding him for it.

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

August 01 2012 18:08 GMT

#397

Chen and Zwiebler exchanges handshakes over a crossover.

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

August 01 2012 18:09 GMT

#398

The first set was really high level, then Zwiebler couldn't keep up anymore.
Chen was relentless, congrats to him

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

August 01 2012 18:09 GMT

#399

Chen with an absolutely stunning cross drop shot, even Zwiebler is impressed as he goes for a handshake with the Chinese player. The score is now 19-9.

Edit: Zwiebler with a clear that is far too wide, the bird is out and Chen wins the third set and the match.