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On August 07 2012 04:35 Robson13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:32 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:46 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 03:42 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:36 Aristodemus wrote:
Trok67 you are implying that GB are winning due to the bikes they use? Regulations mean any rider can use any bike in the competition with a limited fee. Pointless to debate what makes sense?
Preperation is key and head coach Dave Brailsford sets up individual training programmes for each athlete. They set it up to peak at the olympics. I dont think other nations dont prepare or train hard its just that I think his methods and results have to be appreciated. This is the guy who also leads team sky for the tour. London was being focused on before Beijing, athletic success was vital. Leading sky isn't something to be proud of on the tour... same for europcar... Yes being the head of team sky and British cycling is something to be proud of being the head of a team in which everyone overperformed on the tour always mean that there is internal doping in the team It has historically been the case (US Postal, Festina, Astana ect...). . That doesn't mean everyone is doped but a huge chunk of the guys on the team are doped, and when everyone on both europcar and sky presents the external symptom of Aicar... both europcar and sky will have some serious doping case coming in the next decade. OK, so you just assume that everyboddy who does well is doping
it's not that they're doing well. it's that they're doing way better than what they used to do (and btw 90% of the peloton is doped at least). I don't say that Wiggins or Froome are doped, i'm just saying that the whole freaking team overperformed. The same for europcar, if you knew a bit the history of doping in cyclism you'd see that it works 100%.
a good example is Rasmussen. The guy was a motherfucking climber, the best one of his gen. He wanted to win the tour and start to vastly overperform in TT, was found doped (and Contador was following him in moutains :D)
btw it's not hate for the british the head coach of french cyclism was doped as hell (Jalabert) too and im' quite sure that Gaugé is doped too.(weird those guys who miss the controls and are hurted just before the world championship at a moment when you should be heavy on drugs in order to prepare for the olympics...)
On August 07 2012 04:39 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:32 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:46 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 03:42 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:36 Aristodemus wrote:
Trok67 you are implying that GB are winning due to the bikes they use? Regulations mean any rider can use any bike in the competition with a limited fee. Pointless to debate what makes sense?
Preperation is key and head coach Dave Brailsford sets up individual training programmes for each athlete. They set it up to peak at the olympics. I dont think other nations dont prepare or train hard its just that I think his methods and results have to be appreciated. This is the guy who also leads team sky for the tour. London was being focused on before Beijing, athletic success was vital. Leading sky isn't something to be proud of on the tour... same for europcar... Yes being the head of team sky and British cycling is something to be proud of being the head of a team in which everyone overperformed on the tour always mean that there is internal doping in the team It has historically been the case (US Postal, Festina, Astana ect...). . That doesn't mean everyone is doped but a huge chunk of the guys on the team are doped, and when everyone on both europcar and sky presents the external symptom of Aicar... both europcar and sky will have some serious doping case coming in the next decade. How bitter you sound. Wow GB won, they must be cheating lol.
europcar is a french team. Our head coach is an ex doper. I said nothing about the veledrome except accusing Baugé.
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On August 07 2012 04:38 ArnaudF wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:35 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 04:32 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:46 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 03:42 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:36 Aristodemus wrote:
Trok67 you are implying that GB are winning due to the bikes they use? Regulations mean any rider can use any bike in the competition with a limited fee. Pointless to debate what makes sense?
Preperation is key and head coach Dave Brailsford sets up individual training programmes for each athlete. They set it up to peak at the olympics. I dont think other nations dont prepare or train hard its just that I think his methods and results have to be appreciated. This is the guy who also leads team sky for the tour. London was being focused on before Beijing, athletic success was vital. Leading sky isn't something to be proud of on the tour... same for europcar... Yes being the head of team sky and British cycling is something to be proud of being the head of a team in which everyone overperformed on the tour always mean that there is internal doping in the team It has historically been the case (US Postal, Festina, Astana ect...). . That doesn't mean everyone is doped but a huge chunk of the guys on the team are doped, and when everyone on both europcar and sky presents the external symptom of Aicar... both europcar and sky will have some serious doping case coming in the next decade. OK, so you just assume that everyboddy who does well is doping It's cycling ...
Yes, im not saying there is not doping involved but saying that because they did well they are doping and that leading sky isnt something to be proud of with zero evindence to back up the claims
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On August 07 2012 04:41 Robson13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:38 ArnaudF wrote:On August 07 2012 04:35 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 04:32 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:46 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 03:42 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:36 Aristodemus wrote:
Trok67 you are implying that GB are winning due to the bikes they use? Regulations mean any rider can use any bike in the competition with a limited fee. Pointless to debate what makes sense?
Preperation is key and head coach Dave Brailsford sets up individual training programmes for each athlete. They set it up to peak at the olympics. I dont think other nations dont prepare or train hard its just that I think his methods and results have to be appreciated. This is the guy who also leads team sky for the tour. London was being focused on before Beijing, athletic success was vital. Leading sky isn't something to be proud of on the tour... same for europcar... Yes being the head of team sky and British cycling is something to be proud of being the head of a team in which everyone overperformed on the tour always mean that there is internal doping in the team It has historically been the case (US Postal, Festina, Astana ect...). . That doesn't mean everyone is doped but a huge chunk of the guys on the team are doped, and when everyone on both europcar and sky presents the external symptom of Aicar... both europcar and sky will have some serious doping case coming in the next decade. OK, so you just assume that everyboddy who does well is doping It's cycling ... Yes, im not saying there is not doping involved but saying that because they did well they are doping and that leading sky isnt something to be proud of with zero evindence to back up the claims
Look at the history of doping and see you in 10years. But you should be proud of your results in the velodrome, you destroyed the competition as usual and there is nothing to say about it since there is no precedent to damage what your guys accomplished.
I've a simple question: Would you be proud if Bruynel was the head coach? Or better, Riis?
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On August 07 2012 04:43 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:41 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 04:38 ArnaudF wrote:On August 07 2012 04:35 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 04:32 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:46 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 03:42 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:36 Aristodemus wrote:
Trok67 you are implying that GB are winning due to the bikes they use? Regulations mean any rider can use any bike in the competition with a limited fee. Pointless to debate what makes sense?
Preperation is key and head coach Dave Brailsford sets up individual training programmes for each athlete. They set it up to peak at the olympics. I dont think other nations dont prepare or train hard its just that I think his methods and results have to be appreciated. This is the guy who also leads team sky for the tour. London was being focused on before Beijing, athletic success was vital. Leading sky isn't something to be proud of on the tour... same for europcar... Yes being the head of team sky and British cycling is something to be proud of being the head of a team in which everyone overperformed on the tour always mean that there is internal doping in the team It has historically been the case (US Postal, Festina, Astana ect...). . That doesn't mean everyone is doped but a huge chunk of the guys on the team are doped, and when everyone on both europcar and sky presents the external symptom of Aicar... both europcar and sky will have some serious doping case coming in the next decade. OK, so you just assume that everyboddy who does well is doping It's cycling ... Yes, im not saying there is not doping involved but saying that because they did well they are doping and that leading sky isnt something to be proud of with zero evindence to back up the claims Look at the history of doping and see you in 10years. But you should be proud of your results in the velodrome, you destroyed the competition as usual and there is nothing to say about it since there is no precedent to damage what your guys accomplished.
Im not saying that doping wasnt involved, I know how heavily it features in cycling. But you shouldnt just assume and I would happily put a bet on Wiggins not doping
Edit : To answer your question no, because they are known cheats
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On August 07 2012 04:45 Robson13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:43 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 04:41 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 04:38 ArnaudF wrote:On August 07 2012 04:35 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 04:32 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:46 Robson13 wrote:On August 07 2012 03:42 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 03:36 Aristodemus wrote:
Trok67 you are implying that GB are winning due to the bikes they use? Regulations mean any rider can use any bike in the competition with a limited fee. Pointless to debate what makes sense?
Preperation is key and head coach Dave Brailsford sets up individual training programmes for each athlete. They set it up to peak at the olympics. I dont think other nations dont prepare or train hard its just that I think his methods and results have to be appreciated. This is the guy who also leads team sky for the tour. London was being focused on before Beijing, athletic success was vital. Leading sky isn't something to be proud of on the tour... same for europcar... Yes being the head of team sky and British cycling is something to be proud of being the head of a team in which everyone overperformed on the tour always mean that there is internal doping in the team It has historically been the case (US Postal, Festina, Astana ect...). . That doesn't mean everyone is doped but a huge chunk of the guys on the team are doped, and when everyone on both europcar and sky presents the external symptom of Aicar... both europcar and sky will have some serious doping case coming in the next decade. OK, so you just assume that everyboddy who does well is doping It's cycling ... Yes, im not saying there is not doping involved but saying that because they did well they are doping and that leading sky isnt something to be proud of with zero evindence to back up the claims Look at the history of doping and see you in 10years. But you should be proud of your results in the velodrome, you destroyed the competition as usual and there is nothing to say about it since there is no precedent to damage what your guys accomplished. Im not saying that doping wasnt involved, I know how heavily it features in cycling. But you shouldnt just assume and I would happily put a bet on Wiggins not doping
As far as Wiggins is concerned it's possible that he's relatively clean and it'd be cool since it'd be the 1st clean winner for a loooooooooooooooooooong time. Not too much hope tho. What i'm saying is that it's 99% sure that there are lot of dopers in both sky and europcar in regards of their extraordinary perf in 2012 (both Eisel and Porte were on teams which were affected by doping scandal prior to joining sky, Porte even worked with our lovely Bruynel :p). That doesn't mean that everyone is doped, but a lots of them are.
/e Bruynel was never caught afaik? tho he managed teams with lots of dopers :D and maybe the biggest fish, if they manage to convict Armstrong, which shouldn't be too hard.
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On August 07 2012 04:52 Asha` wrote:
Felix Sanchez you legend
35yo ez pz...
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The goal by Rapinoe...wow, amazing corner kick.
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Haha Sweden got a bronze in wrestling.. Gotta say that has to be the most bullshit sport ever? They only score a point when they defend by just laying on the mat. So when it's time for the 3:rd and final round the referee picks a ball(LOL!) which contains a colour either red or blue which decides which guy gets to defend and auto-win. SO FUNNY!
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On August 07 2012 04:57 DwD wrote:
Haha Sweden got a bronze in wrestling.. Gotta say that has to be the most bullshit sport ever? They only score a point when they defend by just laying on the mat. So when it's time for the 3:rd and final round the referee picks a ball(LOL!) which contains a colour either red or blue which decides which guy gets to defend and auto-win. SO FUNNY!
i think it's a little bit more complex but i've not seen a fight where someone scored before the ground thingy. if someone could enlight us because what i've seen is just Judo in way worse :D
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On August 07 2012 04:58 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:57 DwD wrote:
Haha Sweden got a bronze in wrestling.. Gotta say that has to be the most bullshit sport ever? They only score a point when they defend by just laying on the mat. So when it's time for the 3:rd and final round the referee picks a ball(LOL!) which contains a colour either red or blue which decides which guy gets to defend and auto-win. SO FUNNY! i think it's a little bit more complex but i've not seen a fight where someone scored before the ground thingy. if someone could enlight us because what i've seen is just Judo in way worse :D
Haha yeah I saw 1 match where someone managed to push the other one out of the mat, not sure if he was awarded a point or whatever but still. You could see the swedish coach just being super happy that our guy got to defend lol. Can't imagine that the guy who came up with these rules thought it was a good idea lol
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Flicked onto the football for no apparent reason and saw an awesome goal from Canada. 2-1 Vs USA.
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On August 07 2012 05:06 DwD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:58 sAsImre wrote:On August 07 2012 04:57 DwD wrote:
Haha Sweden got a bronze in wrestling.. Gotta say that has to be the most bullshit sport ever? They only score a point when they defend by just laying on the mat. So when it's time for the 3:rd and final round the referee picks a ball(LOL!) which contains a colour either red or blue which decides which guy gets to defend and auto-win. SO FUNNY! i think it's a little bit more complex but i've not seen a fight where someone scored before the ground thingy. if someone could enlight us because what i've seen is just Judo in way worse :D Haha yeah I saw 1 match where someone managed to push the other one out of the mat, not sure if he was awarded a point or whatever but still. You could see the swedish coach just being super happy that our guy got to defend lol. Can't imagine that the guy who came up with these rules thought it was a good idea lol
I just watched the french guys but one of them in lower wieghts lost its quarter final against a russian dude and the commentators where hyping as hell the ability of the russian to win in both positions. (and he litteraly destroyed the french when the latter was defending :D) it might depends so.
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On August 07 2012 05:11 topherthetoad wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK RAPINOE!!
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USA got this, they're playing better.
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On August 07 2012 05:12 topherthetoad wrote:
USA got this, they're playing better.
And Canada scores.
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WTF is going on this game?
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Goalie makes big mistake, free kick USA
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EPT
