2012 Olympics Event Discussion Thread - Page 228

On August 07 2012 05:06 DwD wrote:



Haha yeah I saw 1 match where someone managed to push the other one out of the mat, not sure if he was awarded a point or whatever but still. You could see the swedish coach just being super happy that our guy got to defend lol. Can't imagine that the guy who came up with these rules thought it was a good idea lol

On August 07 2012 05:54 radiatoren wrote:

It probably was a good idea at the time. I think the athletes has simply grown too good at it to make it fair. Reminds me of overtime in american football...

The thing seems to be too short rounds and the attacker having too much of an advantage in the last 30 seconds. It is too bad for wrestling since it truely makes the sport seem like a lottery instead of something worth watching.
I really think that wrestling looks interesting, but the format is killing it and like judo it really truely needs to happen over at least 2 days. 4 matches of judo in a matter of hours made the competitors look like zombies in the last match. Timewise it would not seem to be much of a problem since you can alternate judo, wrestling and taekwondo (they are the events happening at the same kind of arenas).

With that being said: Remove BMX (expensive field with no other use and just too small a sport to supprt it), syncronized diving (seems excessive to have those 4 events when the sport is so specialised and dominated by competitors from normal diving...), dressage (the rest of the horsies can be tolerated) and artistic gymnastics. Put in sportsdancing (I do not like dancing and I do not want to watch it, but a multisex event instead of a female only like artistic gymnastics seems like a good deal in all possible ways), roller sports (triathlon, marathon, road cycling all use the same kinds of arena. Should be cheap and it is worth watching imo.) and probably one of the unused martial arts (Karate, Wushu) or another prime candidate (some form of orientiering since GPS is rectifying a lot of the problems with coverage to a television friendly level, cricket since it is a very big sport in some countries, squash since it is an international high level sport).

On August 07 2012 05:59 smr wrote:
About boxing (not sure if I have to spoiler so I do)
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On August 07 2012 06:04 LittLeD wrote:
As it turns out, I absolutely love watching Volleyball and Beach Volleyball.

On August 07 2012 05:59 smr wrote:
About boxing (not sure if I have to spoiler so I do)
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On August 07 2012 07:22 sinii wrote:
Hmm I guess they should try to come up with a better tournament format so these situations never occur where teams want to lose to have a better chance at a better medal.

On August 07 2012 08:33 radiatoren wrote:

Never is just reven spelled backwards. There is always a tradeoff when trying to eliminate the incentive to loose. You can run a double elimination format or triple elimination, repeche matches etc. All of these formats are problematic because of the value of seeds and the lack of games for the lesser teams. Any group play format can do something: Semi-random draw of opponents in the round after group stage is one part, stacked matches are another, but none of them eliminates the possibility of speculating in future opponents without adding large amounts of randomness to the situation.