Better jgl wins. :D

But honestly Fnatic was just way better overall. C9 can be very happy they got that far, could have also been out in groups.

Bit disappointing semis, hopefully the final makes up for it.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

October 28 2018 10:43 GMT

#702

I liked C9's grit in game 3 but they were just simply lane for lane outclassed, still really really really dont like the Lissandra picks. They can still be proud they had a great run!

Think Ekko in the Viktor match should run the Fleet Foodwork pages like Kassadin, it's sustain on AP melee champions is actually insane. Sure his burst damage will suffer, baring a huge out/miss-play but he's never going to 1v1 Viktor anyway.

AlterKot

Poland7525 Posts

October 28 2018 10:46 GMT

#703

not worth waking up tbh
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Sent.

Poland9288 Posts

October 28 2018 13:10 GMT

#704

Bwipo doing so well we might not get to see Soaz play again, unless TheShy outperforms Bwipo so hard that Fnatic will need to replace him with Soaz who's better at playing with less resources.

People question C9's drafts but I think Irelia, Leblanc and Akali were must bans for C9 on either side because I don't believe Jensen or Licorice would do any better on or against those champions. I guess their faith in the Ekko "counterpick" was their biggest pick/ban mistake.

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

October 28 2018 13:13 GMT

#705

The fact that Broxah didn't get a single player of the game in that series means if Fnatic win, he's probs gonna be robbed of MVP

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

October 28 2018 14:15 GMT

#706

On October 28 2018 22:13 AdsMoFro wrote:
The fact that Broxah didn't get a single player of the game in that series means if Fnatic win, he's probs gonna be robbed of MVP

True, the lack of recognition for him is astonishing. Although I dont think he cares.

General_Winter

United States719 Posts

October 28 2018 14:55 GMT

#707

Man semis was kind of a blowout. First semis was like watching a challenger smurf in platinum. Second semis was like watching a diamond smurf in bronze. Final will be another blowout. IG 3-1 I think.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

October 28 2018 15:20 GMT

#708

I thought C9 looked more competent than G2 in the first two games, but both were clearly inferior to their opponents. iG and FNC completely stomped their series, seriously hyping up the finals. Lets see if iG have learned from their mistakes in groups, and if FNC bring some good prep.

Broxah is definitely being overlooked by the casters, but that's not a surprise because the whole of FNC are playing very well right now and Rekkles/Caps performance is always a topic, not to mention Bwipo is probably the hottest rookie besides Broxah himself.

I honestly wonder if Bwipo could even beat TheShy in a game or two, although I hope he just manages to keep iG's toplaner down and not feed. But FNC has legit crazy talent now, I think they can hold their own.

Bwipo ? TheShy
Broxah > Ning
Caps < Rookie
Rekkles > Jackey
Hyl < Baolan

AlterKot

Poland7525 Posts

October 28 2018 16:17 GMT

#709

Soaz > The Shy > Duke > Bwipo easy

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

October 28 2018 18:11 GMT

#710

I feel like C9's game 2 draft would have worked better as a red side draft. I think last picking Lissandra on red instead of having to pick Liss/Leona and revealing everything before Fnatic's pick really took some oomf out of the draft

starkiller123

United States4030 Posts

October 28 2018 19:26 GMT

#711

what a boring semi finals

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

October 29 2018 04:31 GMT

#712

On October 28 2018 18:32 Jek wrote:
Oh boy. Caps is having the time of his life.

I dont really understand these Lissandra picks, she just feel like she falls off so hard and does so really fast. Yeah she is super safe in lane with great gank assistance, but in all games have felt like that's all she has added to the teams picking her.

I think the Lissandra picks performed admirably for C9. There were 2+ fights per game where the liss went in and the fight split into a 1v2 for liss + 4v3 for the rest of C9. Its just that C9 lost the 4v3s. If you can't win a teamfight when Reckless is standing around with his thumb up his ass for the first 5 seconds what you gonna do?

General_Winter

United States719 Posts

October 29 2018 17:03 GMT

#713

Yeah. I think people have been hating on C9 drafts more than is deserved (and maybe less on the players). For example a lot of folks have said the pick of Ecko into Victor didn’t work, but watching the details of how the games played out, Ecko was doing fine and building kill pressure until jungle ganked and turned around lane. That FNC just has a better jungle player is no fault of the Ecko pick.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

October 29 2018 22:13 GMT

#714

Idk, if you draft a niche counter pick like Ekko then the onus is on you to make it work. Jungle pressure is something that should be assessed during drafting, because matchups don't happen in a vacuum. Lategame Ekko is quite difficult to deal with as well, so if C9 had managed to drag the game out they could've had a second chance.

Also game 1 C9 got destroyed, Ekko got killed multiple times before using ult. I would've ditched the champ after seeing FNC showing they couldn't just deal with the champion on a macro level, but also on a mechanical.

Liss on the other hand is more open for debate. I could understand it being picked, it appeared to do pretty well in the last two games and it's a great setup for team fights. Still sucked to see Jensen play it 3 times instead of something a bit flashier.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

October 30 2018 04:25 GMT

#715

I assume the rational was putting Jensen in a carry vs carry with Caps was just not a dice worth rolling. Similar to Crown playing a lot of Malz games last year, just minimize the enemy mid as much as possible. You can't afford to try a tank pick to minimize top because the meta doesn't favor it, and the Fnatic botlane is just better than C9's. You (c9) just had to hope that minimizing Caps would have been enough, turns out he's just a monster.

As a fan I'm super proud of C9 getting this far, there's no shame in meeting your match in the round of 4 after the road they went on to get there. They just got outmatched

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

November 01 2018 01:35 GMT

#716

PapaSmithy, Flowers, and Kobe are the casters for the finals

Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

November 01 2018 01:38 GMT

#717

Best lineup while avoiding casters from competitors' regions imo. Best overall would be Deficio over Kobe - especially if it would be the last thing he casts.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

November 01 2018 16:53 GMT

#718

So sad Deficio made prior arrangements, Deficio/Flowers would have been an awesome duo.

General_Winter

United States719 Posts

November 02 2018 19:19 GMT

#719

I’m reading lots of analysis saying finals are going to be close, but I’m starting to get a twisted feeling in my gut that says it will be a blowout. I’ll stay up till 3:30am to watch, ruin my sleep cycle and there will be a 23 minute game, a 15 minute game, and a 26 minute game.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

November 02 2018 19:28 GMT

#720

On November 03 2018 04:19 General_Winter wrote:
I’m reading lots of analysis saying finals are going to be close, but I’m starting to get a twisted feeling in my gut that says it will be a blowout. I’ll stay up till 3:30am to watch, ruin my sleep cycle and there will be a 23 minute game, a 15 minute game, and a 26 minute game.

At least you wont ruin your sleep cycle quite as much then.