. Not many people switch roles, best example would be Ambition I think. Tends to only happen if the player has good game knowledge that can translate into shotcalling for their team.

Yorbon

Netherlands4272 Posts

January 17 2018 16:02 GMT

#27

I may be misremembering, but I thought Tusin went from support to jungle somewhere in 2015.

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

January 17 2018 16:18 GMT

#28

On January 18 2018 00:55 DarkCore wrote:

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I think some CN player, can't remember who. Also Jesiz if you consider him noticeable

. Not many people switch roles, best example would be Ambition I think. Tends to only happen if the player has good game knowledge that can translate into shotcalling for their team.

Jesiz went the other way, though so not exactly fair.

AlterKot

Poland7525 Posts

January 17 2018 19:15 GMT

#29

There were tens of famous role switches, and many of them to support (yellowstar most notably), but I cant recall any the other way. The only I remember is Krepo trolling when Froggen went Blitz.

Also wtf i love afreeca freecs now.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

January 17 2018 19:25 GMT

#30

Ornn seems so boring in these games. Feels like he has a better Braum ult on a lower cooldown and Ornn lanes basically appear skilless. Lots of Ornns losing, but IMO the most interesting games all had him banned.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

January 17 2018 20:40 GMT

#31

He's super safe engage with super safe laning and super safe waveclear. Basically all the bad parts they said about Maokai yet months later they release him.

The games have been pretty boring last 2 days. KT series was major snooze mostly. I guess teams just aren't that practiced or comfortable so sloppiness is expected.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

January 17 2018 20:50 GMT

#32

Isn't that always how it is with Riot? Say XXX is unhealthy, then release new champ that is XXX.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

January 17 2018 21:39 GMT

#33

Isn't that always how it is with Riot? Say XXX is unhealthy, then release new champ that is XXX.

Problem is that they can't just go and rework new champions right off the bat, because then they'd admit they fucked up. Orrn is just hilariously frustrating to play against, he's a big rock in lane that you don't want to get too close to because it might decide to fall on you. 0 skill champ that somehow is also super meta, play him well and he has an impact on the game no matter how far he falls behind.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

January 17 2018 21:45 GMT

#34

Honestly he's worse than Maokai ever was to me. Maokai had all of his safeties but had to actually get in danger to engage. Ornn can engage from buttfuck away without ever being in danger. That's just so dumb.

Anyway he didn't win a lot or seem that popular in LCK so far.

Gahlo

United States35165 Posts

January 17 2018 21:52 GMT

#35

On January 18 2018 06:45 Numy wrote:
Honestly he's worse than Maokai ever was to me. Maokai had all of his safeties but had to actually get in danger to engage. Ornn can engage from buttfuck away without ever being in danger. That's just so dumb.

Anyway he didn't win a lot or seem that popular in LCK so far.

Not even just that, but with how his ult works he can cross map initiate with far better aim because it comes too him. At least with somebody like Ashe has to put in some predictive measure.

Dude needs a cooldown on his passive like he does on ARAM.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8785 Posts

January 18 2018 05:36 GMT

#36

On January 18 2018 06:45 Numy wrote:
Honestly he's worse than Maokai ever was to me. Maokai had all of his safeties but had to actually get in danger to engage. Ornn can engage from buttfuck away without ever being in danger. That's just so dumb.

Anyway he didn't win a lot or seem that popular in LCK so far.

koreans dont value him as much because he forfeits so much control early game. i dont think its much of a surprise that the country that has the best macro game cares about how much lane/map control you get early and ornn gives you nothing.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

January 18 2018 07:00 GMT

#37

On January 18 2018 14:36 evilfatsh1t wrote:

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How can you say that when there have been only 4 series so far, and 3 of them had a game of Orrn. He's not blatantly OP and gets picked every game, but he is a viable pick, and balance is also about how fun/frustrating a champion is to play against.

Also, Orrn saw a 92.5% PB rate in Kespa Cup, and won 3 out of the 4 games he was left open. Only Ezreal had even more questionable stats. Koreans like the champion as well.