On February 14 2017 21:41 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I'm honestly surprised KT let MVP get Camille, especially given Smeb's reputation of being such a strong carry top laner.

I'm honestly surprised teams aren't banning camille. The champ is just ludicrously broken in 7.2

Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

February 14 2017 13:08 GMT

#124

Alright, who let the guy that did pick bans for S5 Worlds back into the booth?

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

February 14 2017 17:12 GMT

#125

On February 14 2017 21:45 Amui wrote:

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I'm honestly surprised teams aren't banning camille. The champ is just ludicrously broken in 7.2

I was trying to play devil's advocate as to why KR teams keep letting Camille through (e.g. "oh, maybe they just want to practice against her, regular season things, etc") but then yeah, I remember this is still pre-nerf Camille. zzz

Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

February 14 2017 17:59 GMT

#126

On February 15 2017 02:12 NeoIllusions wrote:

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Only excuse I've seen people come up with is that they let it through for Cuvee, a noted Camille player, and was able to manage it fine. Which I'm willing to jive with if you pick known decent matchups like Mao or Shen, but Renekton and Rumble are kind of silly spots to put yourself in.

dsyxelic

United States1417 Posts

February 14 2017 21:18 GMT

#127

yeah in the hands of a competent camille, the champ is just batshit broken

think they really underestimated the strength of the other MVP players. camille got pushed around g2 especially with those rengo ganks but MVP's other players did a good job of holding out in their other lanes and camille eventually got her 2 items -> time to just dick on everyone

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

February 14 2017 21:33 GMT

#128

I personally find Camille has too many gimmicky interactions that favor her, especially with how her ultimate works, and also the fact you can flash her wall jump for the stun is a just bs, there's absolutely no need for that extra perk. She can force 1vs1 fights to her choosing, and you can't get away when she ults, there's no counter to her ultimate except for 'never get in range' or 'Can 1vs1 Camille' (which is counteracted by the fact she can just run away if she thinks she can't beat you).

On a side note, ADC meta has gotten extremely stale again. We're only seeing Jhin, Varus and Ashe, some people throw in the occasional Ezreal. It was nice seeing a Kog pick this series.

Faeny

647 Posts

February 15 2017 03:29 GMT

#129

If you have a flip like singed or voli or a friendly Blitzcrank or something you can break her ult, but I'm still flabbergasted by her gap-closing range, it's insane. Not to mention the stun on impact. On a cooldown as low as 6 seconds.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

February 15 2017 05:12 GMT

#130

Why is Camille's hook so spammable? Its like someone said, "better make a super reliable Irelia".

Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

February 15 2017 05:22 GMT

#131

On February 15 2017 14:12 cLutZ wrote:
Why is Camille's hook so spammable? Its like someone said, "better make a super reliable Irelia".

From day one I thought she looked like Irelia with too many mechanics syndrome. Her CDs are stupid for a character that likes to build Triforce.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

February 15 2017 10:49 GMT

#132

I also dont get why the range on her hook has to be this big. Like 2/3 of that range and it would still be super strong.

Yorbon

Netherlands4272 Posts

February 15 2017 13:26 GMT

#133

Freecs' play is so sad ):

Draft seems weird/bad as well.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

February 16 2017 04:54 GMT

#134

Well, the main things camille could do without are sustain vs. non-champs and the invuln frame on ultimate for starters.

There's no reason for her to have the sustain against minions when she already has a shield on passive for trading against champions.

Invuln frame should really just be like aatrox Q, just uninterruptable. CC applies after channel finishes.

I mean yeah, you can eventually nerf her numbers to a point where she's unplayable, but then she's now a useless champ instead of one with clear weaknesses and strengths. Take out the utility in a bloated kit, and then maybe you can balance the numbers more readily.