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Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
April 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#2321
TL 3-0'ing C9 would be the greatest gift they can give to CLG and their fans.
Jaedong :D
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33542 Posts
April 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#2322
Quas almost as good as Looper today :O
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#2323
On April 12 2015 07:27 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:26 Ansibled wrote:
Zion really shouldn't be on the analyst desk...

would much rather have saint his casting for IEM was pretty good but they went with CLG org popularity over actual analytical skill


Having Saint on analyst desk would be pretty sick.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 11 2015 22:31 GMT
#2324
On April 12 2015 07:29 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:27 Fusilero wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:24 krndandaman wrote:
thats the most upset I've seen meteos

even more than that shitfest at IEM

Going 0-2 at IEM sucks but NA LCS has been their stomping ground. He has to hold himself to a higher standard than anything less than second place being a disaster. Like if TL died here, got reverse swept and rekt in third place match by impact people would still be positive. But if C9 loses here? Shit man that's a certified disaster even if they godstomp TiP/TSM in the 3rd place match.


Could it be that (finally) the competition in NA LCS has gotten strong enough so that C9's strengths (pick/ban, usually decent team comps) can't outweigh the team's weaknesses (Hai's champion pool, Lemon's low mechanical skill, Balls' apparent inability to do well on a non-carry top laner).


yeah it's pretty much this, their strategy is finally not enough to keep them near undefeated anymore since their mechanical deficits are causing losses.
In Inca we trust
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 11 2015 22:31 GMT
#2325
On April 12 2015 07:29 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:27 Numy wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:26 MoonBear wrote:
Ok Zion. Give Meteos an early game jungler and just let Dom have his Sejuani/Nunu.


Whelp. At least we have some insight into why CLG draft phase is absolutely terrible.

On April 12 2015 07:27 IMoperator wrote:
man, people on this forum just love to shit on players lol. Yes, Hai should probably retire because he can't keep up mechanically anymore, but cmon, he led the most dominant NA team for the past almost 2 years now.


And? Most of us want C9 back to what they were and that can only happen if Hai either gets massively improved or leaves. Unless they want to be like CLG and live in the past while slowly fading to irrelevance.

their teamfighting was much worse than their p/b tho


Drafting is the foundation of the team though so if there's a problem in the draft it just makes every other problem you have get so much worse.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 11 2015 22:31 GMT
#2326
On April 12 2015 07:29 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:28 Slaughter wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:27 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:26 Ansibled wrote:
Zion really shouldn't be on the analyst desk...

would much rather have saint his casting for IEM was pretty good but they went with CLG org popularity over actual analytical skill


Saint's casting was pretty fun. Hope to see it again sometime.

I hope he moves into casting once he hangs it up as a player but I don't know if he really wants to do that. Could easily Scarra and become a coach or something or just stream full time

There's quite a few players that do a good job casting. I hope Riot ask them to cast more often!
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 11 2015 22:31 GMT
#2327
On April 12 2015 07:30 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:27 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:26 Ansibled wrote:
Zion really shouldn't be on the analyst desk...

would much rather have saint his casting for IEM was pretty good but they went with CLG org popularity over actual analytical skill


Having Saint on analyst desk would be pretty sick.

Saint isn't #riotapproved
liftlift > tsm
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
April 11 2015 22:32 GMT
#2328
How big would if be for TL to get into the finals and secure at least 2nd? Not sure how the points awarded works (like reg reason finish vs playoffs).
Never Knows Best.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
April 11 2015 22:32 GMT
#2329
Bjerg most clutch player in playoffs when he hasn't even played yet, nice
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 11 2015 22:32 GMT
#2330
On April 12 2015 07:32 Slaughter wrote:
How big would if be for TL to get into the finals and secure at least 2nd? Not sure how the points awarded works (like reg reason finish vs playoffs).


90 points for 1st, 70 for 2nd, 50 for 3rd, 30 for 4th, 10 for 5th and 6th.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 11 2015 22:33 GMT
#2331
On April 12 2015 07:31 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:29 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:28 Slaughter wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:27 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:26 Ansibled wrote:
Zion really shouldn't be on the analyst desk...

would much rather have saint his casting for IEM was pretty good but they went with CLG org popularity over actual analytical skill


Saint's casting was pretty fun. Hope to see it again sometime.

I hope he moves into casting once he hangs it up as a player but I don't know if he really wants to do that. Could easily Scarra and become a coach or something or just stream full time

There's quite a few players that do a good job casting. I hope Riot ask them to cast more often!

Should rotate out the old pros like Jatt or whoever for analysis cause they say some dumb shit sometimes and update with more recent retirees

Like Riv or whoever is fine cause he understands he doesnt know the game at a high level and is there for the voice/screaming but your analysts should be able to, you know, analyze.

On April 12 2015 07:31 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:29 Kinie wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:27 Fusilero wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:24 krndandaman wrote:
thats the most upset I've seen meteos

even more than that shitfest at IEM

Going 0-2 at IEM sucks but NA LCS has been their stomping ground. He has to hold himself to a higher standard than anything less than second place being a disaster. Like if TL died here, got reverse swept and rekt in third place match by impact people would still be positive. But if C9 loses here? Shit man that's a certified disaster even if they godstomp TiP/TSM in the 3rd place match.


Could it be that (finally) the competition in NA LCS has gotten strong enough so that C9's strengths (pick/ban, usually decent team comps) can't outweigh the team's weaknesses (Hai's champion pool, Lemon's low mechanical skill, Balls' apparent inability to do well on a non-carry top laner).


yeah it's pretty much this, their strategy is finally not enough to keep them near undefeated anymore since their mechanical deficits are causing losses.

Like I said earlier in the thread C9's biggest advantage was understanding strategy and rotations better than anyone in NA but everyone else caught up;
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 11 2015 22:33 GMT
#2332
On April 12 2015 07:32 Slaughter wrote:
How big would if be for TL to get into the finals and secure at least 2nd? Not sure how the points awarded works (like reg reason finish vs playoffs).

5th/6th - 10 pts
4rd - 30 pts
3rd - 50 pts
2nd - 70 pts
1st - 90 pts
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
April 11 2015 22:33 GMT
#2333
On April 12 2015 07:32 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:32 Slaughter wrote:
How big would if be for TL to get into the finals and secure at least 2nd? Not sure how the points awarded works (like reg reason finish vs playoffs).


90 points for 1st, 70 for 2nd, 50 for 3rd, 30 for 4th, 10 for 5th and 6th.


What about regular season finishes? Or are they the same?
Never Knows Best.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 11 2015 22:33 GMT
#2334
On April 12 2015 07:28 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:27 IMoperator wrote:
man, people on this forum just love to shit on players lol. Yes, Hai should probably retire because he can't keep up mechanically anymore, but cmon, he led the most dominant NA team for the past almost 2 years now.

yup

also he put up decent stats when they first came up he just didn't keep up with the rising talent level

Just 1 year ago, before his collapsed lung, Hai was in his best form of his career. They 3-0'd TSM in the finals with Hai dying ONCE in the series (he got like a 42 KDA in 3 games) and got the playoffs MVP. He was looking really good and then he got his collapsed lung and he never recovered his form. It's sad to me, because maybe if that didn't happen he would be in a much better spot atm.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 11 2015 22:33 GMT
#2335
On April 12 2015 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:30 GolemMadness wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:27 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:26 Ansibled wrote:
Zion really shouldn't be on the analyst desk...

would much rather have saint his casting for IEM was pretty good but they went with CLG org popularity over actual analytical skill


Having Saint on analyst desk would be pretty sick.

Saint isn't #riotapproved

Saint would call a spade a spade and start shitting on players lol he's too honest
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 11 2015 22:34 GMT
#2336
Oh Krepo...

ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 11 2015 22:34 GMT
#2337
On April 12 2015 07:33 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:30 GolemMadness wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:27 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:26 Ansibled wrote:
Zion really shouldn't be on the analyst desk...

would much rather have saint his casting for IEM was pretty good but they went with CLG org popularity over actual analytical skill


Having Saint on analyst desk would be pretty sick.

Saint isn't #riotapproved

Saint would call a spade a spade and start shitting on players lol he's too honest


LOL.

This is true.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 11 2015 22:34 GMT
#2338
On April 12 2015 07:33 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:32 Kinie wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:32 Slaughter wrote:
How big would if be for TL to get into the finals and secure at least 2nd? Not sure how the points awarded works (like reg reason finish vs playoffs).


90 points for 1st, 70 for 2nd, 50 for 3rd, 30 for 4th, 10 for 5th and 6th.


What about regular season finishes? Or are they the same?


7th - 10th don't get any points, at least for the teams in Spring Split.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 11 2015 22:34 GMT
#2339
On April 12 2015 07:33 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:32 Kinie wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:32 Slaughter wrote:
How big would if be for TL to get into the finals and secure at least 2nd? Not sure how the points awarded works (like reg reason finish vs playoffs).


90 points for 1st, 70 for 2nd, 50 for 3rd, 30 for 4th, 10 for 5th and 6th.


What about regular season finishes? Or are they the same?

Championship Points
  • 1st place team of the Summer Split will automatically qualify (AQ) for Worlds as the first seed from that region.
  • Team with the most Championship Points qualifies for Worlds
  • The team that has accrued the most championship points throughout the season will also qualify for Worlds as the second seed.
  • In the event that multiple teams are tied in the standings at the conclusion of the Summer Split, then the team that gained the most points in the Summer Split will be considered the holder of the tiebreaker.
  • The final spot for Worlds will be determined at the NA and EU Regional Qualifiers, the winners of which will be the third seeds of their respective regions.

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/North_America/2015_Season#Format
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 11 2015 22:35 GMT
#2340
On April 12 2015 07:34 MoonBear wrote:
Oh Krepo...

https://twitter.com/SkumbagKrepo/status/587018587019288576

thorin and richard lewis are the most annoying talking heads in esports rn
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