On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: the ohq hype started before the preseason.
I'm not talking about hype, but the Ohq hype started with the Xenics Storm at Winter 2013-2014. And then died down when they failed to make in out of groups in the next Champions with NJBS. I'm referencing their most recent performances, Ohq and Cain are a top tier combo in Korea. They ca get ahead and can snowball games, while Bang and Wolf are a consistent lane which is what SKT needs.
i know that, and that was part of my argument. them carrying games due to snowballing will leave a greater impression, but this produces bias. in terms of raw laning skill they are not better than bang and wolf at all. teamfighting i'll call it even, but bang has the better environment.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: i think part of it is that monte probably really hates how skt s plays so the wolf bang lane isn't all that hyped. bang has died a total of like 5 times in the entire preseason or thereabout.
I don't think so, SKT S had a play style like CLG.Eu they just wanted to survive to the point of late game and win through superior team-fighting. Bang and Wolf has no reason to be hyped imo. Its a consistent lane that will go even.
monte hates how skt s doesn't take objectives and fights while given advantage. it is true bang and wolf are the best part of that team but that becomes muted when all you hear about skt s is how passive they are. the botlane is actually very capable of aggressive play and has a very high mechanical skill level.
I liked the tremendous strength Bang and Wolf have shown last year, but you're doing Easyhoon a disservice here. The team lived and died with him, and there's literally no one better doing what he does in my opinion. He was the biggest reason why SK Telecom T1 S was relevant in the scene despite having H0R0.
On January 07 2015 15:19 Lmui wrote: Just curious if there's more things I haven't discovered. There's so many new features in comparison to the old website, is the teamliquid website also going to get revamped to this standard? The old events calendar is so crappy in comparison to this, it's so shiny.
You can get to this thread via the active threads/lol tournaments area but in addition, you can go here via clicking the event and then clicking the thread link.
I'm fully expecting SKT to shit on Najin though. Even with the ohq hype, bang/wolf are an extremely stable bottom lane and the meta appears to have shifted back into bengi's favour.
Thanks for the thread Fionn. My bet is that we'll have to wait until LCS goes back into full swing and liquid gets some screentime before we see a larger influx of newer faces.
Honestly, I could see a lot of people who want more civilized discussion than what /r/LeagueOfLegends normally offers wanting to migrate here instead. I'd expect a sizable chunk of people to move on over.
Dude, I instantly signed up the second i saw the site. /r/leagueoflegends novelty wore off a long time ago. I want to learn more and have somewhat serious discussion about the game and the karma system doesn't allow the subreddit to do that. I'm excited to see what the forums become and how they shape the playerbase.
On January 07 2015 14:51 re.Pratus wrote: I hope another team in Korea picks up Easyhoon. He can't live in Faker's shadow.
This video sums up Easyhoon's decision to stay on SKT.
Training with Faker is good practice, but wouldn't be better off on another team and getting LAN experience?
SKT pays the most money in Korea. SKT has the most fans in Korea.
Easyhoon is probably making a great salary with no pressure on him to do well behind the best player in the world. He is living the dream.
If I was KkOma I would make Eazyhoon practice only 3-5 champions who I think will be strong in upcoming metas or patches. Put him in and bust out a random ass Cassiopeia team comp and cheese the fuck out of the enemy team to put em on tilt.
Or I can just play Faker every game and win. That works too.
On January 07 2015 15:19 Lmui wrote: Just curious if there's more things I haven't discovered. There's so many new features in comparison to the old website, is the teamliquid website also going to get revamped to this standard? The old events calendar is so crappy in comparison to this, it's so shiny.
You can get to this thread via the active threads/lol tournaments area but in addition, you can go here via clicking the event and then clicking the thread link.
I'm fully expecting SKT to shit on Najin though. Even with the ohq hype, bang/wolf are an extremely stable bottom lane and the meta appears to have shifted back into bengi's favour.
Thanks for the thread Fionn. My bet is that we'll have to wait until LCS goes back into full swing and liquid gets some screentime before we see a larger influx of newer faces.
Honestly, I could see a lot of people who want more civilized discussion than what /r/LeagueOfLegends normally offers wanting to migrate here instead. I'd expect a sizable chunk of people to move on over.
Dude, I instantly signed up the second i saw the site. /r/leagueoflegends novelty wore off a long time ago. I want to learn more and have somewhat serious discussion about the game and the karma system doesn't allow the subreddit to do that. I'm excited to see what the forums become and how they shape the playerbase.
Yup, same here. I'll go to reddit for all the videos and community made content it offers. But when it comes to actually discussing the game, I'd much rather come here, where there is no 'top post' which is some terrible pun, or flaming someone who had a bad game.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: the ohq hype started before the preseason.
I'm not talking about hype, but the Ohq hype started with the Xenics Storm at Winter 2013-2014. And then died down when they failed to make in out of groups in the next Champions with NJBS. I'm referencing their most recent performances, Ohq and Cain are a top tier combo in Korea. They ca get ahead and can snowball games, while Bang and Wolf are a consistent lane which is what SKT needs.
i know that, and that was part of my argument. them carrying games due to snowballing will leave a greater impression, but this produces bias. in terms of raw laning skill they are not better than bang and wolf at all. teamfighting i'll call it even, but bang has the better environment.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: i think part of it is that monte probably really hates how skt s plays so the wolf bang lane isn't all that hyped. bang has died a total of like 5 times in the entire preseason or thereabout.
I don't think so, SKT S had a play style like CLG.Eu they just wanted to survive to the point of late game and win through superior team-fighting. Bang and Wolf has no reason to be hyped imo. Its a consistent lane that will go even.
monte hates how skt s doesn't take objectives and fights while given advantage. it is true bang and wolf are the best part of that team but that becomes muted when all you hear about skt s is how passive they are. the botlane is actually very capable of aggressive play and has a very high mechanical skill level.
I liked the tremendous strength Bang and Wolf have shown last year, but you're doing Easyhoon a disservice here. The team lived and died with him, and there's literally no one better doing what he does in my opinion. He was the biggest reason why SK Telecom T1 S was relevant in the scene despite having H0R0.
i'm not saying he's not good. he's really good at the zone control and killing creep thing. but that is pretty limited.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: the ohq hype started before the preseason.
I'm not talking about hype, but the Ohq hype started with the Xenics Storm at Winter 2013-2014. And then died down when they failed to make in out of groups in the next Champions with NJBS. I'm referencing their most recent performances, Ohq and Cain are a top tier combo in Korea. They ca get ahead and can snowball games, while Bang and Wolf are a consistent lane which is what SKT needs.
i know that, and that was part of my argument. them carrying games due to snowballing will leave a greater impression, but this produces bias. in terms of raw laning skill they are not better than bang and wolf at all. teamfighting i'll call it even, but bang has the better environment.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: i think part of it is that monte probably really hates how skt s plays so the wolf bang lane isn't all that hyped. bang has died a total of like 5 times in the entire preseason or thereabout.
I don't think so, SKT S had a play style like CLG.Eu they just wanted to survive to the point of late game and win through superior team-fighting. Bang and Wolf has no reason to be hyped imo. Its a consistent lane that will go even.
monte hates how skt s doesn't take objectives and fights while given advantage. it is true bang and wolf are the best part of that team but that becomes muted when all you hear about skt s is how passive they are. the botlane is actually very capable of aggressive play and has a very high mechanical skill level.
I liked the tremendous strength Bang and Wolf have shown last year, but you're doing Easyhoon a disservice here. The team lived and died with him, and there's literally no one better doing what he does in my opinion. He was the biggest reason why SK Telecom T1 S was relevant in the scene despite having H0R0.
i'm not saying he's not good. he's really good at the zone control and killing creep thing. but that is pretty limited.
I think Easyhoon and Horo were a major part in SKT S success, Marin felt was really hit and miss and hadn't reached his carry potential. Bang and Wolf were consistent, I wouldn't say they were a major factor in them winning or losing in most games, they went even in the majority of matches and tried to scale. I guess I'm discrediting them when they picked losing matchups and went even or slightly behind, but they also went that way when they had winning matchups. The bottom lane reminds me of Cop. They were a middle of the pack bot lane and their strength was being consistent
I am interested, and not in a good way, in seeing how they intend to play with the ability to swap players between games. Stomping game 1 then swapping players out for game 2 just puts a bad taste in my mouth, especially in the new best of 3 format.
On January 07 2015 15:53 Baffels wrote: I am interested, and not in a good way, in seeing how they intend to play with the ability to swap players between games. Stomping game 1 then swapping players out for game 2 just puts a bad taste in my mouth, especially in the new best of 3 format.
I don't know how the swapping works, do they have to say which players are playing in the games before the series start or can they swap out freely depending on what happened in that prior game?
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: the ohq hype started before the preseason.
I'm not talking about hype, but the Ohq hype started with the Xenics Storm at Winter 2013-2014. And then died down when they failed to make in out of groups in the next Champions with NJBS. I'm referencing their most recent performances, Ohq and Cain are a top tier combo in Korea. They ca get ahead and can snowball games, while Bang and Wolf are a consistent lane which is what SKT needs.
i know that, and that was part of my argument. them carrying games due to snowballing will leave a greater impression, but this produces bias. in terms of raw laning skill they are not better than bang and wolf at all. teamfighting i'll call it even, but bang has the better environment.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: i think part of it is that monte probably really hates how skt s plays so the wolf bang lane isn't all that hyped. bang has died a total of like 5 times in the entire preseason or thereabout.
I don't think so, SKT S had a play style like CLG.Eu they just wanted to survive to the point of late game and win through superior team-fighting. Bang and Wolf has no reason to be hyped imo. Its a consistent lane that will go even.
monte hates how skt s doesn't take objectives and fights while given advantage. it is true bang and wolf are the best part of that team but that becomes muted when all you hear about skt s is how passive they are. the botlane is actually very capable of aggressive play and has a very high mechanical skill level.
I liked the tremendous strength Bang and Wolf have shown last year, but you're doing Easyhoon a disservice here. The team lived and died with him, and there's literally no one better doing what he does in my opinion. He was the biggest reason why SK Telecom T1 S was relevant in the scene despite having H0R0.
i'm not saying he's not good. he's really good at the zone control and killing creep thing. but that is pretty limited.
I think Easyhoon and Horo were a major part in SKT S success, Marin felt was really hit and miss and hadn't reached his carry potential. Bang and Wolf were consistent, I wouldn't say they were a major factor in them winning or losing in most games, they went even in the majority of matches and tried to scale. I guess I'm discrediting them when they picked losing matchups and went even or slightly behind, but they also went that way when they had winning matchups. The bottom lane reminds me of Cop. They were a middle of the pack bot lane and their strength was being consistent
horo was really really bad.
you can't possibly compare bang to cop. i have no words for this
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: the ohq hype started before the preseason.
I'm not talking about hype, but the Ohq hype started with the Xenics Storm at Winter 2013-2014. And then died down when they failed to make in out of groups in the next Champions with NJBS. I'm referencing their most recent performances, Ohq and Cain are a top tier combo in Korea. They ca get ahead and can snowball games, while Bang and Wolf are a consistent lane which is what SKT needs.
i know that, and that was part of my argument. them carrying games due to snowballing will leave a greater impression, but this produces bias. in terms of raw laning skill they are not better than bang and wolf at all. teamfighting i'll call it even, but bang has the better environment.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: i think part of it is that monte probably really hates how skt s plays so the wolf bang lane isn't all that hyped. bang has died a total of like 5 times in the entire preseason or thereabout.
I don't think so, SKT S had a play style like CLG.Eu they just wanted to survive to the point of late game and win through superior team-fighting. Bang and Wolf has no reason to be hyped imo. Its a consistent lane that will go even.
monte hates how skt s doesn't take objectives and fights while given advantage. it is true bang and wolf are the best part of that team but that becomes muted when all you hear about skt s is how passive they are. the botlane is actually very capable of aggressive play and has a very high mechanical skill level.
I liked the tremendous strength Bang and Wolf have shown last year, but you're doing Easyhoon a disservice here. The team lived and died with him, and there's literally no one better doing what he does in my opinion. He was the biggest reason why SK Telecom T1 S was relevant in the scene despite having H0R0.
i'm not saying he's not good. he's really good at the zone control and killing creep thing. but that is pretty limited.
I think Easyhoon and Horo were a major part in SKT S success, Marin felt was really hit and miss and hadn't reached his carry potential. Bang and Wolf were consistent, I wouldn't say they were a major factor in them winning or losing in most games, they went even in the majority of matches and tried to scale. I guess I'm discrediting them when they picked losing matchups and went even or slightly behind, but they also went that way when they had winning matchups. The bottom lane reminds me of Cop. They were a middle of the pack bot lane and their strength was being consistent
Yes Bang of last year would be Cop if Cop solo killed Imp and Ohq in lane, then throwing the lead he built up during the laning phase by playing like Rambo. He plays smarter right now, but it's either him or Ohq who is the best in his position right now.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: the ohq hype started before the preseason.
I'm not talking about hype, but the Ohq hype started with the Xenics Storm at Winter 2013-2014. And then died down when they failed to make in out of groups in the next Champions with NJBS. I'm referencing their most recent performances, Ohq and Cain are a top tier combo in Korea. They ca get ahead and can snowball games, while Bang and Wolf are a consistent lane which is what SKT needs.
i know that, and that was part of my argument. them carrying games due to snowballing will leave a greater impression, but this produces bias. in terms of raw laning skill they are not better than bang and wolf at all. teamfighting i'll call it even, but bang has the better environment.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: i think part of it is that monte probably really hates how skt s plays so the wolf bang lane isn't all that hyped. bang has died a total of like 5 times in the entire preseason or thereabout.
I don't think so, SKT S had a play style like CLG.Eu they just wanted to survive to the point of late game and win through superior team-fighting. Bang and Wolf has no reason to be hyped imo. Its a consistent lane that will go even.
monte hates how skt s doesn't take objectives and fights while given advantage. it is true bang and wolf are the best part of that team but that becomes muted when all you hear about skt s is how passive they are. the botlane is actually very capable of aggressive play and has a very high mechanical skill level.
I liked the tremendous strength Bang and Wolf have shown last year, but you're doing Easyhoon a disservice here. The team lived and died with him, and there's literally no one better doing what he does in my opinion. He was the biggest reason why SK Telecom T1 S was relevant in the scene despite having H0R0.
i'm not saying he's not good. he's really good at the zone control and killing creep thing. but that is pretty limited.
I think Easyhoon and Horo were a major part in SKT S success, Marin felt was really hit and miss and hadn't reached his carry potential. Bang and Wolf were consistent, I wouldn't say they were a major factor in them winning or losing in most games, they went even in the majority of matches and tried to scale. I guess I'm discrediting them when they picked losing matchups and went even or slightly behind, but they also went that way when they had winning matchups. The bottom lane reminds me of Cop. They were a middle of the pack bot lane and their strength was being consistent
horo was really really bad.
you can't possibly compare bang to cop. i have no words for this
I think that most of the junglers in the competitive scene that can only perform on Lee Sin are meant to fail really hard if they don't get the fucking monk. That's why Horo looked like crap.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: the ohq hype started before the preseason.
I'm not talking about hype, but the Ohq hype started with the Xenics Storm at Winter 2013-2014. And then died down when they failed to make in out of groups in the next Champions with NJBS. I'm referencing their most recent performances, Ohq and Cain are a top tier combo in Korea. They ca get ahead and can snowball games, while Bang and Wolf are a consistent lane which is what SKT needs.
i know that, and that was part of my argument. them carrying games due to snowballing will leave a greater impression, but this produces bias. in terms of raw laning skill they are not better than bang and wolf at all. teamfighting i'll call it even, but bang has the better environment.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: i think part of it is that monte probably really hates how skt s plays so the wolf bang lane isn't all that hyped. bang has died a total of like 5 times in the entire preseason or thereabout.
I don't think so, SKT S had a play style like CLG.Eu they just wanted to survive to the point of late game and win through superior team-fighting. Bang and Wolf has no reason to be hyped imo. Its a consistent lane that will go even.
monte hates how skt s doesn't take objectives and fights while given advantage. it is true bang and wolf are the best part of that team but that becomes muted when all you hear about skt s is how passive they are. the botlane is actually very capable of aggressive play and has a very high mechanical skill level.
I liked the tremendous strength Bang and Wolf have shown last year, but you're doing Easyhoon a disservice here. The team lived and died with him, and there's literally no one better doing what he does in my opinion. He was the biggest reason why SK Telecom T1 S was relevant in the scene despite having H0R0.
i'm not saying he's not good. he's really good at the zone control and killing creep thing. but that is pretty limited.
I think Easyhoon and Horo were a major part in SKT S success, Marin felt was really hit and miss and hadn't reached his carry potential. Bang and Wolf were consistent, I wouldn't say they were a major factor in them winning or losing in most games, they went even in the majority of matches and tried to scale. I guess I'm discrediting them when they picked losing matchups and went even or slightly behind, but they also went that way when they had winning matchups. The bottom lane reminds me of Cop. They were a middle of the pack bot lane and their strength was being consistent
horo was really really bad.
you can't possibly compare bang to cop. i have no words for this
I feel that bias towards Bang and Wolf In the Bracket stage of the last champions they were in Horo played well in some games and bad in others he was inconsistent, but when he did well he snowballs games. Cop is consistent, they are consistent, there is your comparison and a comparison that makes sense. I'm not saying he has Cop skill level, that's absurd.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: the ohq hype started before the preseason.
I'm not talking about hype, but the Ohq hype started with the Xenics Storm at Winter 2013-2014. And then died down when they failed to make in out of groups in the next Champions with NJBS. I'm referencing their most recent performances, Ohq and Cain are a top tier combo in Korea. They ca get ahead and can snowball games, while Bang and Wolf are a consistent lane which is what SKT needs.
i know that, and that was part of my argument. them carrying games due to snowballing will leave a greater impression, but this produces bias. in terms of raw laning skill they are not better than bang and wolf at all. teamfighting i'll call it even, but bang has the better environment.
On January 07 2015 14:07 oneofthem wrote: i think part of it is that monte probably really hates how skt s plays so the wolf bang lane isn't all that hyped. bang has died a total of like 5 times in the entire preseason or thereabout.
I don't think so, SKT S had a play style like CLG.Eu they just wanted to survive to the point of late game and win through superior team-fighting. Bang and Wolf has no reason to be hyped imo. Its a consistent lane that will go even.
monte hates how skt s doesn't take objectives and fights while given advantage. it is true bang and wolf are the best part of that team but that becomes muted when all you hear about skt s is how passive they are. the botlane is actually very capable of aggressive play and has a very high mechanical skill level.
I liked the tremendous strength Bang and Wolf have shown last year, but you're doing Easyhoon a disservice here. The team lived and died with him, and there's literally no one better doing what he does in my opinion. He was the biggest reason why SK Telecom T1 S was relevant in the scene despite having H0R0.
i'm not saying he's not good. he's really good at the zone control and killing creep thing. but that is pretty limited.
I think Easyhoon and Horo were a major part in SKT S success, Marin felt was really hit and miss and hadn't reached his carry potential. Bang and Wolf were consistent, I wouldn't say they were a major factor in them winning or losing in most games, they went even in the majority of matches and tried to scale. I guess I'm discrediting them when they picked losing matchups and went even or slightly behind, but they also went that way when they had winning matchups. The bottom lane reminds me of Cop. They were a middle of the pack bot lane and their strength was being consistent
horo was really really bad.
you can't possibly compare bang to cop. i have no words for this
I think that most of the junglers in the competitive scene that can only perform on Lee Sin are meant to fail really hard if they don't get the fucking monk. That's why Horo looked like crap.
He had a shallow champ pool of Elise, Eve and Leesin that he did well on. He never really did anything on Rengar or J4
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In the Bracket stage of the last champions they were in Horo played well in some games and bad in others he was inconsistent, but when he did well he snowballs games. Cop is consistent, they are consistent, there is your comparison and a comparison that makes sense. I'm not saying he has Cop skill level, that's absurd. 
