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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 01:57:24
September 22 2014 01:56 GMT
#3801
Neither SHRC nor LMQ has the vision control to consistently force fights against koreans, I think Alliance has the best chance, but not much better.

I still want NJWS to 2-0 then though
boomer hands
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 02:37:01
September 22 2014 02:36 GMT
#3802
I don't think LMQ stands a chance against Korean teams. I still subscribe to the idea that LMQ is basically LPL-lite.

I don't think Korean teams will be immortal/undefeated this tournament, but I do heavily favor both Blue and Shield to exit group stages as 1st seed.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 22 2014 02:40 GMT
#3803


like a couple days too fucking late. Morning so bad.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 22 2014 02:54 GMT
#3804
On September 22 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmIBt4-IKvg

like a couple days too fucking late. Morning so bad.

His posture is amazing for someone who has had his back broken so many times.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
September 22 2014 02:59 GMT
#3805
On September 22 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmIBt4-IKvg

like a couple days too fucking late. Morning so bad.

Now all they need is to steal Westdoor and Greentea from AHQ >_>
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 03:08:02
September 22 2014 03:07 GMT
#3806
On September 22 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmIBt4-IKvg

like a couple days too fucking late. Morning so bad.



FREE CHAWY EARLIERRRRR

On September 22 2014 11:59 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmIBt4-IKvg

like a couple days too fucking late. Morning so bad.

Now all they need is to steal Westdoor and Greentea from AHQ >_>


Chawy mid laner though
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 22 2014 03:10 GMT
#3807
On September 22 2014 10:23 xes wrote:
SHRC and LMQ probably have the best chance at taking a game off Koreans because all they do is brawl and break the rules of ognTSM rotations which Koreans wrote the rulebook on


Their sololanes sucks and also the same with edg only omg sololanes are good but their botlane sucks.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 22 2014 03:16 GMT
#3808
I think it's good that SK didn't make it to Singapore because Svenskeren would've probably got them killed there by spitting on the street or something.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 22 2014 03:17 GMT
#3809
Damn, Lustboy put in work in the second TSM vs SHR game.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 03:51:50
September 22 2014 03:34 GMT
#3810
On September 22 2014 12:16 KissBlade wrote:
I think it's good that SK didn't make it to Singapore because Svenskeren would've probably got them killed there by spitting on the street or something.


Lmao

I think the general toxicity in China is still the highest in all the regions but shit always hits the fan in EU for some reason.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 22 2014 04:08 GMT
#3811
Halfway through groups 50 champions have been picke/banned. Aatrox is the only champion of that 50 that was banned and never picked.

Though I expect an EU team to correct that.+ Show Spoiler +
Hue
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 06:22:13
September 22 2014 06:16 GMT
#3812
On September 22 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmIBt4-IKvg

like a couple days too fucking late. Morning so bad.

Next tournament they're going to only pick xerath/ziggs, chawy will underperform because those aren't his champs and they'll proclaim that they were right with morning and go back to yasuo/syndra/fizz
Glorious SEA doto
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 22 2014 08:01 GMT
#3813
On September 22 2014 15:16 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmIBt4-IKvg

like a couple days too fucking late. Morning so bad.

Next tournament they're going to only pick xerath/ziggs, chawy will underperform because those aren't his champs and they'll proclaim that they were right with morning and go back to yasuo/syndra/fizz


Yes chawy will rock.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
CreationSoul
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania231 Posts
September 22 2014 12:49 GMT
#3814
I am glad that TSM will face SSW. It would have been "unfair" that TSM have a chance to reeach semifinals without even facing a korean team.
Quitting is the easy way out...
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
September 22 2014 13:38 GMT
#3815
On September 22 2014 15:16 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmIBt4-IKvg

like a couple days too fucking late. Morning so bad.

Next tournament they're going to only pick xerath/ziggs, chawy will underperform because those aren't his champs and they'll proclaim that they were right with morning and go back to yasuo/syndra/fizz

Oh god pls no >_>
Hoping so hard that he'll surprise everyone again with something in the vein of his mid pre-rework karma....
But I doubt it. TPA seems really... conservative to me. =/ (which is odd since they were the ones who brought triple-smite team comps to GPL in spring and were the ones who ran Lulu-ADC)
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3759 Posts
September 22 2014 13:57 GMT
#3816
So after first two groups concluded, we can easily believe that koreans are ontouchable while the rest of regions can probably compete with each other.
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 14:19:05
September 22 2014 14:18 GMT
#3817
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epic Uzi reaction after watching TSM vs SK

TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
September 22 2014 14:21 GMT
#3818
wtf ahq and royal in one room. conspiracy?
Science>Mechanics
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
September 22 2014 14:32 GMT
#3819
On September 22 2014 23:18 niukasu1990 wrote:


epic Uzi reaction after watching TSM vs SK


I just had to go back and rewatch that bit on the vods.
God how can a team make so many miss plays right after another.

They could have pushed top to open another inhib but instead they go for the nexus.
As soon as the 4 from TSM enter the base Vayne begins to recall, Dyrus lets it happen which is just a terrible play.
Bjergen blows his entire combo on Sven who loses only 1/3 of his HP and he then zonya's to avoid a morgana binding while still at full hp which removes him from the crucial moments of the fight.
Turtle is caught facing Vayne and has to back out, his only direction is right into Swain, Morgana and Ziggs so he dies for free and at that point its impossible for TSM to do anything.

I just dont get how on earth you make the call to rush mid when you can push top lane hard, get to the inhib tower and if Vayne is still bottom you TP in Dyrus and force the engage 4v5. Either vayne backs and gets their late or you take the nexus.

Instead you trap yourself in the enemy base and allow a splitpush Vayne with no TP to get to the fight sooner then Dyrus who had TP.

Just... mind boggling bad call for a team of the level of TSM.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 15:13:02
September 22 2014 15:11 GMT
#3820
On September 22 2014 23:32 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2014 23:18 niukasu1990 wrote:


epic Uzi reaction after watching TSM vs SK


I just had to go back and rewatch that bit on the vods.
God how can a team make so many miss plays right after another.

They could have pushed top to open another inhib but instead they go for the nexus.
As soon as the 4 from TSM enter the base Vayne begins to recall, Dyrus lets it happen which is just a terrible play.
Bjergen blows his entire combo on Sven who loses only 1/3 of his HP and he then zonya's to avoid a morgana binding while still at full hp which removes him from the crucial moments of the fight.
Turtle is caught facing Vayne and has to back out, his only direction is right into Swain, Morgana and Ziggs so he dies for free and at that point its impossible for TSM to do anything.

I just dont get how on earth you make the call to rush mid when you can push top lane hard, get to the inhib tower and if Vayne is still bottom you TP in Dyrus and force the engage 4v5. Either vayne backs and gets their late or you take the nexus.

Instead you trap yourself in the enemy base and allow a splitpush Vayne with no TP to get to the fight sooner then Dyrus who had TP.

Just... mind boggling bad call for a team of the level of TSM.


CandyPanda would hide out of vision and then decide to continue to split push or recall. Dyrus simply can't chase him because Vayne can easily chase him down if he leaves base. He could've kept throwing cleavers but he was so afraid of throwing (if he didn't die a bunch early game, I think he would've been confident enough to chase).

TSM had a very frontline oriented comp, it was over when they entered the base and got flanked (without Dyrus there), regardless of what individual members did. Once they made the call to enter SK's base, they should've got Dyrus to TP immediately or sacrifice himself to chase Vayne and prevent a recall.
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