• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:41
CET 01:41
KST 09:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA15
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? Data analysis on 70 million replays BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2034 users

[NA LCS] S4 Spring Week 6 - Page 52

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 50 51 52 53 54 73 Next
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 23 2014 21:49 GMT
#1021
Hey look! Cop does some damage, maybe teamfighting when he was on the screen would've been a good idea.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
February 23 2014 21:49 GMT
#1022
On February 24 2014 06:47 Neverhood wrote:
lmao saint with the flash plays

Its so weird that CRS then went in on that instead of just legging it -_-

Love Saint, but his support play is questionable. Like, come on. He even repeatedly said on his stream that he feels like playing jungle in yoloqueue is giving free elo to his teams, and he plays support because of that...
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 23 2014 21:49 GMT
#1023
im just watching that 1k gold wave surging bot
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 23 2014 21:49 GMT
#1024
On February 24 2014 06:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:48 Redox wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Curse #1. LOL WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT. Cop wasn't even there.

Throw?

Definitely a throw. lost dragon and baron off that.


It's okay, because Dyrus just missed out on gold from CS, so TSM is throwing the game now.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
February 23 2014 21:50 GMT
#1025
do you guys think we see teemo again this plit?
Science>Mechanics
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 23 2014 21:50 GMT
#1026
On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL

You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope

TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw.

Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying.

That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw.

Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat.

Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.
liftlift > tsm
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
February 23 2014 21:51 GMT
#1027
LOL Saint
LOL Curse
LOL Liquid
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 23 2014 21:51 GMT
#1028
WHAT WAS THAT. Why are you fighting outside the turret? too HAM.
liftlift > tsm
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 23 2014 21:52 GMT
#1029
On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL

You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope

TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw.

Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying.

That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw.

Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat.

Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.

Yes master. Anyways despite all those horrible throws TSM TSM TSM TSM
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
February 23 2014 21:52 GMT
#1030
saint's boxes were spot on this game
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 23 2014 21:52 GMT
#1031
On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL

You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope

TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw.

Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying.

That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw.

Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat.

Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.


No one is saying it isn't a momentum swing. Obviously any time when a team has a good team fight, it is in their favor.

The point is that it wasn't a throw.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 21:54:08
February 23 2014 21:52 GMT
#1032
Good last try by Curse. Caught Turtle out of position and had a decent engage with Yasuo and Zac but they were just too far behind.

Not a throw. I don't think Curse was ever ahead in gold or towers/objectives the entire game. Being "ahead" for one objective doesn't mean you're ahead overall.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
February 23 2014 21:53 GMT
#1033
On February 24 2014 06:52 beefhamburger wrote:
Good last try by Curse. Caught Turtle out of position and had a decent engage with Yasuo and Zac but they were just too far behind.

Stop derailing the semantics discussion about what is and isn't a throw :O
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 23 2014 21:53 GMT
#1034
On February 24 2014 06:52 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL

You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope

TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw.

Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying.

That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw.

Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat.

Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.


No one is saying it isn't a momentum swing. Obviously any time when a team has a good team fight, it is in their favor.

The point is that it wasn't a throw.

if you make bad decision and lose huge advantage because of it, that's pretty much a throw. you're throwing away advantage.
liftlift > tsm
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 23 2014 21:54 GMT
#1035
On February 24 2014 06:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:52 Chicane wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL

You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope

TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw.

Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying.

That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw.

Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat.

Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.


No one is saying it isn't a momentum swing. Obviously any time when a team has a good team fight, it is in their favor.

The point is that it wasn't a throw.

if you make bad decision and lose huge advantage because of it, that's pretty much a throw. you're throwing away advantage.


So if a player misses CS that's pretty much a throw because you're throwing away a gold advantage.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 21:55:19
February 23 2014 21:54 GMT
#1036
need more items on yasuo and cop but curse took fights they shouldnt have from that dragon fight onwards. learn to turtle until full build yasuo pls



that saint flash box was def a throw
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 23 2014 21:54 GMT
#1037
On February 24 2014 06:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:52 Chicane wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL

You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope

TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw.

Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying.

That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw.

Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat.

Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.


No one is saying it isn't a momentum swing. Obviously any time when a team has a good team fight, it is in their favor.

The point is that it wasn't a throw.

if you make bad decision and lose huge advantage because of it, that's pretty much a throw. you're throwing away advantage.

Except for the small fact that you keep ignoring that it was a small advantage of which they lost most of it but never fell behind.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 23 2014 21:55 GMT
#1038
WT took the trap on purpose to bait the hook (which happened, and he shielded it), but then Saint walked and flayed (or flashed? can't recall) to get the knock-up, and Zac jumped in to try and ult Sivir for Yasuo.
It made sense, but TSM just disengaged way too fast and 2-3 big spells had already been baited this way.

On the other hand, had it worked better (Zac timed with Thresh to cc through the spellshield), WT may have been screwed.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
February 23 2014 21:57 GMT
#1039
On February 24 2014 06:55 Alaric wrote:
WT took the trap on purpose to bait the hook (which happened, and he shielded it), but then Saint walked and flayed (or flashed? can't recall) to get the knock-up, and Zac jumped in to try and ult Sivir for Yasuo.
It made sense, but TSM just disengaged way too fast and 2-3 big spells had already been baited this way.

On the other hand, had it worked better (Zac timed with Thresh to cc through the spellshield), WT may have been screwed.

Being caught by the flay was getting caught out. He survived only because he had his flash+barrier. If it was a closer/even game, I think the Curse engage would have won that fight with Turtle down.
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2243 Posts
February 23 2014 21:57 GMT
#1040
And very surprisingly, Saint once again utterly fails on support and turns this match into a 4v5. THE SHOTCALLING THOUGH
Cogito, ergo Toss
Prev 1 50 51 52 53 54 73 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
23:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17
CranKy Ducklings97
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 207
Nathanias 61
ProTech15
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3013
Artosis 711
Terrorterran 4
Counter-Strike
taco 49
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor202
Other Games
summit1g10121
Grubby4002
Pyrionflax200
Maynarde125
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1229
BasetradeTV49
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 98
• HeavenSC 42
• musti20045 28
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21232
• Ler70
League of Legends
• Doublelift4255
Other Games
• imaqtpie1497
• Scarra1141
Upcoming Events
OSC
8h 19m
Wardi Open
11h 19m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 19m
OSC
22h 19m
Wardi Open
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.