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Hey look! Cop does some damage, maybe teamfighting when he was on the screen would've been a good idea.
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On February 24 2014 06:47 Neverhood wrote:
lmao saint with the flash plays
Its so weird that CRS then went in on that instead of just legging it -_-
Love Saint, but his support play is questionable. Like, come on. He even repeatedly said on his stream that he feels like playing jungle in yoloqueue is giving free elo to his teams, and he plays support because of that...
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
im just watching that 1k gold wave surging bot
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On February 24 2014 06:48 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 06:48 Redox wrote:On February 24 2014 06:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Curse #1. LOL WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT. Cop wasn't even there. Throw? Definitely a throw. lost dragon and baron off that.
It's okay, because Dyrus just missed out on gold from CS, so TSM is throwing the game now.
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do you guys think we see teemo again this plit?
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On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw. Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying. That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw. Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat.
Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.
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LOL Saint
LOL Curse
LOL Liquid
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WHAT WAS THAT. Why are you fighting outside the turret? too HAM.
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On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw. Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying. That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw. Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat. Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.
Yes master. Anyways despite all those horrible throws TSM TSM TSM TSM
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saint's boxes were spot on this game
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On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw. Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying. That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw. Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat. Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse.
No one is saying it isn't a momentum swing. Obviously any time when a team has a good team fight, it is in their favor.
The point is that it wasn't a throw.
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Good last try by Curse. Caught Turtle out of position and had a decent engage with Yasuo and Zac but they were just too far behind.
Not a throw. I don't think Curse was ever ahead in gold or towers/objectives the entire game. Being "ahead" for one objective doesn't mean you're ahead overall.
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On February 24 2014 06:52 beefhamburger wrote:
Good last try by Curse. Caught Turtle out of position and had a decent engage with Yasuo and Zac but they were just too far behind.
Stop derailing the semantics discussion about what is and isn't a throw :O
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On February 24 2014 06:52 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw. Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying. That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw. Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat. Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse. No one is saying it isn't a momentum swing. Obviously any time when a team has a good team fight, it is in their favor. The point is that it wasn't a throw.
if you make bad decision and lose huge advantage because of it, that's pretty much a throw. you're throwing away advantage.
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On February 24 2014 06:53 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 06:52 Chicane wrote:On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw. Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying. That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw. Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat. Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse. No one is saying it isn't a momentum swing. Obviously any time when a team has a good team fight, it is in their favor. The point is that it wasn't a throw. if you make bad decision and lose huge advantage because of it, that's pretty much a throw. you're throwing away advantage.
So if a player misses CS that's pretty much a throw because you're throwing away a gold advantage.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
need more items on yasuo and cop but curse took fights they shouldnt have from that dragon fight onwards. learn to turtle until full build yasuo pls
that saint flash box was def a throw
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On February 24 2014 06:53 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 06:52 Chicane wrote:On February 24 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:48 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:45 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:43 wei2coolman wrote:On February 24 2014 06:42 Yorkie wrote:On February 24 2014 06:41 wei2coolman wrote:
THE TSM THROWS. LOL You make no sense. They lost a fight on even gold 4v5 3 to 1. It was a bad decision, but throw? nope TSM was ahead in gold, and made bad decision to fight, and lose their lead. That by definition is a throw. Throw. As in throw the game away. They were ahead in gold. Now they are ahead in gold by a lesser amount. What are you saying. That's a huge momentum swing for crs, that dragon fight was a throw. just cuz it ain't baron, don't mean it ain't a throw. Lol every bad play now is a throw? Baron "throws" are called throws because they often turn the tide of a game. You can throw anywhere but to be called that it has to actually change the lead/allow the other team to claim important objectives/momentum. As you just saw in that last fight, TSM is still in the drivers seat. Actually in the last fight, you notice Curse rotated to Dragon earlier, because they have better map control, the teamfight was just extremely poor from Crs. The gold difference was like 200 at that point. The 2nd Dragon that TSM loss was pretty big momentum swing for Curse. No one is saying it isn't a momentum swing. Obviously any time when a team has a good team fight, it is in their favor. The point is that it wasn't a throw. if you make bad decision and lose huge advantage because of it, that's pretty much a throw. you're throwing away advantage.
Except for the small fact that you keep ignoring that it was a small advantage of which they lost most of it but never fell behind.
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WT took the trap on purpose to bait the hook (which happened, and he shielded it), but then Saint walked and flayed (or flashed? can't recall) to get the knock-up, and Zac jumped in to try and ult Sivir for Yasuo.
It made sense, but TSM just disengaged way too fast and 2-3 big spells had already been baited this way.
On the other hand, had it worked better (Zac timed with Thresh to cc through the spellshield), WT may have been screwed.
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On February 24 2014 06:55 Alaric wrote:
WT took the trap on purpose to bait the hook (which happened, and he shielded it), but then Saint walked and flayed (or flashed? can't recall) to get the knock-up, and Zac jumped in to try and ult Sivir for Yasuo.
It made sense, but TSM just disengaged way too fast and 2-3 big spells had already been baited this way.
On the other hand, had it worked better (Zac timed with Thresh to cc through the spellshield), WT may have been screwed.
Being caught by the flay was getting caught out. He survived only because he had his flash+barrier. If it was a closer/even game, I think the Curse engage would have won that fight with Turtle down.
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And very surprisingly, Saint once again utterly fails on support and turns this match into a 4v5. THE SHOTCALLING THOUGH
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