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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 11:23:06
January 25 2014 11:22 GMT
#3781
On January 25 2014 20:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:19 ffrozenfish wrote:
I think Riot need to increase the bans so teams have a decent change against SKT

I think most people agree that Riot needs to up bans and/or rework the pick/ban phase.


I'd be ok with introducing a 4th ban for each team, as the champion pool is starting to get to a point where 3 bans just aren't enough. What was it originally, like 3 bans for each team with a ~70 champs, and now they expect us to have 3 bans per team for 117 champs? It's just not enough.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 25 2014 11:22 GMT
#3782
On January 25 2014 20:21 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:20 Fionn wrote:
Bengi's streak of Jungle KDA is gone.

Team Dark stole his belt.


Yeah, these KDA awards are a joke. : <

They need a most improved award imo.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 25 2014 11:22 GMT
#3783
On January 25 2014 20:22 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:19 ffrozenfish wrote:
I think Riot need to increase the bans so teams have a decent change against SKT

I think most people agree that Riot needs to up bans and/or rework the pick/ban phase.


I'd be ok with introducing a 4th ban for each team, as the champion pool is starting to get to a point where 3 bans just aren't enough. What was it originally, like 3 bans for ~70 champs, and now they expect us to have 3 bans per team for 117 champs? It's just not enough.

They could increase number of bans by removing kassadin from the game
Glorious SEA doto
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 25 2014 11:23 GMT
#3784
On January 25 2014 20:17 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:13 Doctorbeat wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:10 Kinie wrote:
Either that or one team will figure out some new broken strategy or champion that this mythical team could use to beat SKT T1 K. I mean, lets look at SKT T1's strengths:

- EVERY role can carry (yes, including support).
- Large champ pool at every roll
- Wide variety of strategies (pick comp, fast push, 5v5 wombo combo, etc.)
- Arguably best players in the world in every role (Faker obv. best mid world, but Bengi and PoohManDu might be best players in their roles too)
- Near-perfect team coordination
- Rarely get flustered if something odd or unusual happens in pick/ban phase or in a team fight

What weakness can you identify? Maybe a tendency of FotM syndrome, but when your mechanics are so good it doesn't matter as much what FotM champs are.


I feel like SKT dominance makes it more hard to win for other teams, considering how much people already fear SKT. I don't know about Korean scrim schedules but I'd expect SKT to mostly scrim with the sister team, so other teams don't learn as much.

I think SKT weakness might be a Fnatic/Gambit in their absolute prime. SKT just punish mistakes so damn hard, that you have to be really confident in your ability not to make mistakes.


Rofl, did you just come from Reddit or what, Fnatic/Gambit at their prime would get TRASHED by SKT for the love of god.

What are you talking about? Froggen's superteam would crush SKT
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 25 2014 11:23 GMT
#3785
On January 25 2014 20:22 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:19 ffrozenfish wrote:
I think Riot need to increase the bans so teams have a decent change against SKT

I think most people agree that Riot needs to up bans and/or rework the pick/ban phase.


I'd be ok with introducing a 4th ban for each team, as the champion pool is starting to get to a point where 3 bans just aren't enough. What was it originally, like 3 bans for ~70 champs, and now they expect us to have 3 bans per team for 117 champs? It's just not enough.

A rework of the pick/ban into something similar to Dota would do wonders for pick diversity, as well.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 11:24:19
January 25 2014 11:23 GMT
#3786
On January 25 2014 20:22 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:22 Kinie wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:19 ffrozenfish wrote:
I think Riot need to increase the bans so teams have a decent change against SKT

I think most people agree that Riot needs to up bans and/or rework the pick/ban phase.


I'd be ok with introducing a 4th ban for each team, as the champion pool is starting to get to a point where 3 bans just aren't enough. What was it originally, like 3 bans for ~70 champs, and now they expect us to have 3 bans per team for 117 champs? It's just not enough.

They could increase number of bans by removing kassadin from the game


If you want to balance Kassadin, make his R be a CD of 20/16/12, problem solved.

I don't play or watch Dota 2, so I don't know too much about their pick/ban phase.

And Faker got MVP again, I think PoohManDu got robbed.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 25 2014 11:24 GMT
#3787
On January 25 2014 20:22 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:19 ffrozenfish wrote:
I think Riot need to increase the bans so teams have a decent change against SKT

I think most people agree that Riot needs to up bans and/or rework the pick/ban phase.


I'd be ok with introducing a 4th ban for each team, as the champion pool is starting to get to a point where 3 bans just aren't enough. What was it originally, like 3 bans for ~70 champs, and now they expect us to have 3 bans per team for 117 champs? It's just not enough.


I would be okay with increasing bans if Riot's gut reaction wasn't to always nerf any champion that becomes popular in competitive play instead of buffing underplayed champions.

Faker 2x in a row MVP, Champion, and Mid KDA. GODJUNPA
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 25 2014 11:24 GMT
#3788
Fakerr Sunbaeee MVP MVP
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2014 11:24 GMT
#3789
what? who was game 3 mvp if not mandu?????
Carrilord has arrived.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 11:24:24
January 25 2014 11:24 GMT
#3790
pffffffffff mandu deserved that -.-
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 25 2014 11:24 GMT
#3791
On January 25 2014 20:24 Slusher wrote:
what? who was game 3 mvp if not mandu?????

These are overall MVP awards... Faker had like 8 MVPs before this.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 25 2014 11:24 GMT
#3792
Thought Mandu was going to win it, but I guess Faker won Game 3 MVP.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 25 2014 11:25 GMT
#3793
On January 25 2014 20:23 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:22 Fusilero wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:22 Kinie wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 25 2014 20:19 ffrozenfish wrote:
I think Riot need to increase the bans so teams have a decent change against SKT

I think most people agree that Riot needs to up bans and/or rework the pick/ban phase.


I'd be ok with introducing a 4th ban for each team, as the champion pool is starting to get to a point where 3 bans just aren't enough. What was it originally, like 3 bans for ~70 champs, and now they expect us to have 3 bans per team for 117 champs? It's just not enough.

They could increase number of bans by removing kassadin from the game


If you want to balance Kassadin, make his R be a CD of 20/16/12, problem solved.

Riot's doing the opposite. They're gutting his Q and E, lowering R damage but giving R a cd of 3 seconds at level 3. Plus some wonky W change. At this point, I'm just waiting for Riot to say fuck it, give Kassadin the Eve treatment, and give him a rework in 2 years.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 25 2014 11:25 GMT
#3794
On January 25 2014 20:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:24 Slusher wrote:
what? who was game 3 mvp if not mandu?????

These are overall MVP awards... Faker had like 8 MVPs before this.

In terms of points if mandu was picked for G3 he'd have taken the overall award.
Glorious SEA doto
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 11:25:41
January 25 2014 11:25 GMT
#3795
On January 25 2014 20:24 Fionn wrote:
Thought Mandu was going to win it, but I guess Faker won Game 3 MVP.



This is overall season MVP

edit: Oh I get what you mean.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 25 2014 11:25 GMT
#3796
On January 25 2014 20:24 Slusher wrote:
what? who was game 3 mvp if not mandu?????


I guess they didn't give it to Mandu if they did Mandu would have 750 points while Faker has 700
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2014 11:25 GMT
#3797
On January 25 2014 20:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 20:24 Slusher wrote:
what? who was game 3 mvp if not mandu?????

These are overall MVP awards... Faker had like 8 MVPs before this.


they are crazy weighted for the finals, he would have taken the points if he got game 3 mvp
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 25 2014 11:25 GMT
#3798
On January 25 2014 20:24 Fionn wrote:
Thought Mandu was going to win it, but I guess Faker won Game 3 MVP.



Basically this. I think the point totals had it so if Mandu won game 3 MVP he would get it, but if anyone else on SKT T1 got it Faker would get MVP.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 25 2014 11:28 GMT
#3799
Feel pretty confident the top three in the World right now are SKT, Bullets, and Blaze. Blaze also 10-0'ed WCG, so SKT would have probably done the same if they didn't take a night off versus Samsung Blue.

Hopefully LoL Masters shakes things up a bit.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2014 11:28 GMT
#3800
to be honest, and I've felt this way all season long watching SKT, their team is so balanced it's really hard to name an mvp so ogn staff just goes fuck it give it to Faker in the games where it isn't painfully obvious.
Carrilord has arrived.
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