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On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool.
That sounds like a line from Red Alert 4.
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On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was.
Okay man.
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Canada2068 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was.
Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about.
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On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about.
What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Canada2068 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again."
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On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was.
Your excuse is totally rational and not racist at all, so I find the responses to it mildly amusing, whther they are joking or being serious. You never know here, haha.
"YOU DON'T LIKE THE CHINESE LANGUAGE??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!" - haha
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On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about.
idk, the Korean casters have always been able to make me excited when watching stuff without speaking a language I understand. They are just so emotional and into it.
edit: So maybe it's just the way those casters in particular speak rather than Chinese
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United States37500 Posts
l0l, this language tangent is... most unexpected.
oh you guys.
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United States47024 Posts
TBH the real travesty isn't how people are too lazy to watch Chinese LoL.
The REAL travesty is that Riot's own interest/involvement in the scene is so little that they couldn't even be bothered to write factually correct preview articles, to say nothing of analysis or predictions.
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United States23455 Posts
On September 21 2013 09:00 TheYango wrote:
TBH the real travesty isn't how people are too lazy to watch Chinese LoL.
The REAL travesty is that Riot's own interest/involvement in the scene is so little that they couldn't even be bothered to write factually correct preview articles, to say nothing of analysis or predictions.
What are you referring to?
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United States37500 Posts
On September 21 2013 09:00 TheYango wrote:
TBH the real travesty isn't how people are too lazy to watch Chinese LoL.
The REAL travesty is that Riot's own interest/involvement in the scene is so little that they couldn't even be bothered to write factually correct preview articles, to say nothing of analysis or predictions.
People will be lazy. If you want to be a srs outlet, you do have to silver platter things until the following is overwhelming. It's how I see it too.
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On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:
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I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM.
They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again."
Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit".
Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:
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I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM.
They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again."
Yes, but food has other properties than being enjoyable, for example being healthy/unhealthy, in which case it makes perfect sense to force some foods down your throat. But in case of LoL, the only important aspect is enjoyment, in which case I'd say it's fine to guesstimate that you won't aquire taste for a particular LoL stream and give up on it. You probably wouldn't tell someone who doesn't like Destiny after watching him once to watch him 10 times because he might be aquired taste :p
like seriously don't jump on Nafta's di throat just because he doesn't like chinese streams that you feel are superior.
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On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable.
Lol, I watched a lot Korean BW in yaoyuan before plu started to cast. Fully understand that pain.
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United States47024 Posts
On September 21 2013 09:01 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:00 TheYango wrote:
TBH the real travesty isn't how people are too lazy to watch Chinese LoL.
The REAL travesty is that Riot's own interest/involvement in the scene is so little that they couldn't even be bothered to write factually correct preview articles, to say nothing of analysis or predictions. What are you referring to?
The Josh Augustine primer piece that praises OMG's teamfighting (lol), Spellsy's Royal primer piece that, while spot on with the analysis, repeatedly gets facts wrong about the team and their history, and the video that they put up that's just hilariously useless.
EDIT: Not to mention the commentators during the event repeatedly spouting incorrect nonsense about Chinese LoL. Though I have to give props to Kobe for being the commentator who most obviously went out of his way to actually educate himself about how OMG plays.
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On September 21 2013 09:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
l0l, this language tangent is... most unexpected.
oh you guys.
You don't like the Chinese cast? - Heretic, enemy of humanity, clearly have issues againts things that are different from the standard.
You don't like people who have different taste, when it comes to a purely subjective matter? - Way to go! Don't forget to remind them how racist they are, and how they can't accept things that are a little different!
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United States4006 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:46 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. It must be nice to be so blissfully racist.
That is not racist at all. I find the Chinese language annoying to listen to as well.
There's a big difference between saying "Chinese is a shit language and stupid"(which is racist, although even then not really, you're just hating a language lol) and "I find it annoying".
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Canada2068 Posts
On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
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Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol.
A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal".
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On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:
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I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM.
They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again."
Sushi is expensive. If I didn't like it the first 1-2 times I wouldn't pay for it 10 more times, that's for sure.
No one is obligated to follow every scene, wtf. If he didn't like LPL he doesn't have to watch it, even because of reasons other people think are stupid.
I can't believe this is even an argument.
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On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal".
So I can't say i can't stand XY language, if I can't stand XY language? Do I really have to point out why? What if I don't even know, maybe it's just annoying to me, or something?
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