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On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:
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For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl
You see, I do, and that statement boggles my mind. And here we go again... if you say you are fine without sound, then it's fine, but when you put it in a way, where you basically say we suck, for wanting proper sounds, is just calling for a debate.
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On September 21 2013 09:19 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen.
Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl You see, I do, and that statement boggles my mind. And here we go again... if you say you are fine without sound, then it's fine, but when you put it in a way, where you basically say we suck, for wanting proper sounds, is just calling for a debate.
how many wei2coolman clones are in this fucking thread? rofl
*someone says "do you really need sound?"*
*response is: "why you have to say we suck bro?"*
TLGD. The mecca of league discussion and general intelligence.
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On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:
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For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl
It adds to the experience
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On September 21 2013 09:18 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:14 Nos- wrote:On September 21 2013 09:11 Kiett wrote:
Personally, I find Cantonese to be unpleasant to listen to. As well as the dialect of my hometown, Wuhan, and my father's hometown, Ke Jia. I just do. I don't think there's anything racist about not liking the way a language sounds ._.
Fortunately, Mandarin sounds fine to me, and that's what everything is done in now, so yay ^^ yo what you're from Wu Han? yes sir, indeed i am! are you as well? on TL i've only known fishuu to be a fellow wuhan-born :o
Yea I was born there and pretty much all of my family (except those that went overseas) are still living there. Have you gone back recently?
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On September 21 2013 09:21 MattBarry wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen.
Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl It adds to the experience
"omg that Ahri charm REALLY hit the spot"
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On September 21 2013 09:17 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:16 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:11 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:09 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:
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How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it?
Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". So I can't say i can't stand XY language, if I can't stand XY language? Do I really have to point out why? What if I don't even know, maybe it's just annoying to me, or something? Because when people don't give reasons or don't bother to examine the real reason they don't like something, bad things happen. But can we really not distinguish a serious, and deep confession, like "I hate Chinese people", from something trivial, like "I hate the Chinese language"? Like, really? The former demands serious explanation, if you don't want to come off as a huge, racist dick, but the latter is like saying you don't like to listening to rock music. You can jump on that guy, bashing him with "OMG, BUT DEEP PURPLE, BRO, DEEP FRICKING PURPLE, HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE TRUE MUSIC???", but what's the point???? If he doesn't like it, then he doesn't like it, it's as simple as that, he just stated his opinion. If he would keep saying how rock music sucks and etc, THEN he should give some explanation, because it offends others. And once again the EU coalition continues the discussion as csheep lurks back and snickers. Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:17 TheYango wrote:
Am I racist for not liking how Phreak/Riv's commentary sounds?
Though I guess my quip is more with the content. Of course.
I'm sure he appreciates your intention to turn it around on us, but we are still nowhere near at his "you are racist, son!!"-level of stupidity. Though I guess if he says something like that, we should just let it go, cuz... he's a... sheep? I don't know.
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On September 21 2013 09:22 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:17 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:16 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:11 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:09 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:
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Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". So I can't say i can't stand XY language, if I can't stand XY language? Do I really have to point out why? What if I don't even know, maybe it's just annoying to me, or something? Because when people don't give reasons or don't bother to examine the real reason they don't like something, bad things happen. But can we really not distinguish a serious, and deep confession, like "I hate Chinese people", from something trivial, like "I hate the Chinese language"? Like, really? The former demands serious explanation, if you don't want to come off as a huge, racist dick, but the latter is like saying you don't like to listening to rock music. You can jump on that guy, bashing him with "OMG, BUT DEEP PURPLE, BRO, DEEP FRICKING PURPLE, HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE TRUE MUSIC???", but what's the point???? If he doesn't like it, then he doesn't like it, it's as simple as that, he just stated his opinion. If he would keep saying how rock music sucks and etc, THEN he should give some explanation, because it offends others. And once again the EU coalition continues the discussion as csheep lurks back and snickers. On September 21 2013 09:17 TheYango wrote:
Am I racist for not liking how Phreak/Riv's commentary sounds?
Though I guess my quip is more with the content. Of course. I'm sure he appreciates your intention to turn it around on us, but we are still nowhere near at his "you are racist, son!!"-level of stupidity. Though I guess if he says something like that, we should just let it go, cuz... he's a... sheep? I don't know.
I don't understand where anyone gets the idea that csheep actually meant what he said and was just in it to bait people and laugh while he plays league and feed.
rofl
I'm half surprised you guys have not learned after his 3000+ posts in this community that sheep actually takes every opportunity to make people do exactly what you do.
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On September 21 2013 09:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:19 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:
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How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it?
Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl You see, I do, and that statement boggles my mind. And here we go again... if you say you are fine without sound, then it's fine, but when you put it in a way, where you basically say we suck, for wanting proper sounds, is just calling for a debate. how many wei2coolman clones are in this fucking thread? rofl *someone says "do you really need sound?"* *response is: "why you have to say we suck bro?"* TLGD. The mecca of league discussion and general intelligence.
Honestly cant tell if trolling anymore. I figured cheep was but you went along like it was serious.
You just joined in calling someone racist, then continued defending it like it was a defensible position. How is that in any way like just saying "do you really need sound?"
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On September 21 2013 09:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:19 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:
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How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it?
Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl You see, I do, and that statement boggles my mind. And here we go again... if you say you are fine without sound, then it's fine, but when you put it in a way, where you basically say we suck, for wanting proper sounds, is just calling for a debate. how many wei2coolman clones are in this fucking thread? rofl *someone says "do you really need sound?"* *response is: "why you have to say we suck bro?"* TLGD. The mecca of league discussion and general intelligence.
You add a rofl after your sentence, and now you act like you didn't mean it in a provocative way, haha. Amusing. Just because you think you are being witty with your mockings, doesn't mean you are actually any better, than the rest of us.
Edit: best pre-game show ever, btw.
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On September 21 2013 09:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:21 MattBarry wrote:On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:
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How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it?
Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl It adds to the experience "omg that Ahri charm REALLY hit the spot"
Well the sounds of abilities definitely help me keep up with whats happening in a team fight, especially if something happens barely offscreen.
If LPL and Tencent really cared about foreign audience, they're up the quality of their English casting and production. As it stands, they don't care so only people very interested in seeing the games will watch it. And that's completely fine,Tencent doesn't feel the roi for their sponsors is worth upping the quality of their English production.
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On September 21 2013 08:46 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 21 2013 07:19 NeoIllusions wrote:On September 21 2013 07:12 kainzero wrote:On September 21 2013 07:01 heartlxp wrote:
i wish we can have escrow and betting on TL, everyone thinking TSM has anything more than a 10% chance is delusional I laughed when OMG played TSM at first and viewers were 58% TSM. They had no idea. Part of this is blind fanboyism but this also reflects how uninformed the general League community is about the CN scene. It's something I've brought up to Riot and hopefully we can rectify this. The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. It must be nice to be so blissfully racist.
TIL: Chinese is a race.
On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 08:38 Gahlo wrote:On September 21 2013 08:17 TheYango wrote:On September 21 2013 07:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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The CN league is incredibly cut off from the rest of the world. Compare it to OGN and they're miles different in production and outreach. You can't honestly blame anyone for not following the Chinese LCS Maybe it's because I watched enough BW off shitty Daum streams, but I'm not exactly sympathetic to people who demand casting in their own language and Twitch streams. Compared to a year or two ago, watching Chinese games is so easy now. You check Leaguepedia for times, go to fengyunzhibo, click on the stream that's obviously playing League with the most viewers, and you're done. It's not like when you had to use some shitty PPTV plugin (that triggered every form of malware detection in existence) in IE to get a 240p stream to barely be watchable. For me it's all down to language. I can watch esports in Korean because the language doesn't bother me. However, since Chinese is tonal, it's very bothersome to listen to. Keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who will smile stupidly while sitting on a train overhearing a conversation in a language he doesn't know because he likes to listen to it. This is actually one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. Also, I was always on China's side. I will be happy to say that I did not care for the Korean hype train, and have been cheering for Comrade San and Comrade Cool. How is it the worst excuse?If he wants to listen to ingame sounds but doesn't like the language and he can find something similar which doesn't have that problem why should he watch it? Personally I've just never really been interested in the chinese scene for some reason.Now I realise how stupid that was. Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal".
Chinese is the only language I've heard that I DIDN'T want to listen to if I had a choice. I've asked a few of my friends about why this could be and the only thing we could come up with is because it is a tonal language. I'm not saying that Chinese is bad and needs to change and if you don't like it well too bad you're wrong, I'm just saying it's not for me. Saying I don't want to listen to something because of the way it sounds is perfectly reasonable.
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On September 21 2013 09:24 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:19 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:
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Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl You see, I do, and that statement boggles my mind. And here we go again... if you say you are fine without sound, then it's fine, but when you put it in a way, where you basically say we suck, for wanting proper sounds, is just calling for a debate. how many wei2coolman clones are in this fucking thread? rofl *someone says "do you really need sound?"* *response is: "why you have to say we suck bro?"* TLGD. The mecca of league discussion and general intelligence. You add a rofl after your sentence, and now you act like you didn't mean it in a provocative way, haha. Amusing. Just because you think you are being witty with your mockings, doesn't mean you are actually any better, than the rest of us.
I totally meant it in the way you thought I meant it. If you're going to put words in my mouth when I didn't say anything of the sort I see no reason to call you out on it.
On September 21 2013 09:24 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:19 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:
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Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl You see, I do, and that statement boggles my mind. And here we go again... if you say you are fine without sound, then it's fine, but when you put it in a way, where you basically say we suck, for wanting proper sounds, is just calling for a debate. how many wei2coolman clones are in this fucking thread? rofl *someone says "do you really need sound?"* *response is: "why you have to say we suck bro?"* TLGD. The mecca of league discussion and general intelligence. Honestly cant tell if trolling anymore. I figured cheep was but you went along like it was serious. You just joined in calling someone racist, then continued defending it like it was a defensible position. How is that in any way like just saying "do you really need sound?"
pls tell me where I joined in on calling someone racist outside of quoting sheep's post with no additional content
All I said was not watching a certain stream because you found the language annoying is an absolutely garbage excuse. I dislike Korean commentary half the time but that doesn't stop me from muting or putting something else on to listen.
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On September 21 2013 09:11 Kiett wrote:
Personally, I find Cantonese to be unpleasant to listen to. As well as the dialect of my hometown, Wuhan, and my father's hometown, Ke Jia. I just do. I don't think there's anything racist about not liking the way a language sounds ._.
Fortunately, Mandarin sounds fine to me, and that's what everything is done in now, so yay ^^
Beijing Mandarin annoys me though, adding "-er" to perfectly good words zzzz
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On September 21 2013 09:29 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:11 Kiett wrote:
Personally, I find Cantonese to be unpleasant to listen to. As well as the dialect of my hometown, Wuhan, and my father's hometown, Ke Jia. I just do. I don't think there's anything racist about not liking the way a language sounds ._.
Fortunately, Mandarin sounds fine to me, and that's what everything is done in now, so yay ^^ Beijing Mandarin annoys me though, adding "-er" to perfectly good words zzzz
omg cheep's chinese confuses the fuck out of me
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in game sound definitely adds to experience. it makes it easier to tell if certain spells hit in bush, or not, thus letting viewers know, before the caster says something.
On September 21 2013 09:29 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:11 Kiett wrote:
Personally, I find Cantonese to be unpleasant to listen to. As well as the dialect of my hometown, Wuhan, and my father's hometown, Ke Jia. I just do. I don't think there's anything racist about not liking the way a language sounds ._.
Fortunately, Mandarin sounds fine to me, and that's what everything is done in now, so yay ^^ Beijing Mandarin annoys me though, adding "-er" to perfectly good words zzzz
taiwanese mandarin best mandarin.
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On September 21 2013 09:17 Complete wrote:
btw with all the Vi in the tournament so far, has anybody noticed if they max Eor Q? Is there any way to find match history or something like that to see info on that type of stuff?
(just curiosity)
What I've always seen/used has been R>Q>E>W
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On September 21 2013 09:30 wei2coolman wrote:
in game sound definitely adds to experience. it makes it easier to tell if certain spells hit in bush, or not, thus letting viewers know, before the caster says something.
that's not the question I'm asking
the question is do you you really need sound?
I swear a bunch of people watch league at work. Are they all wearing gaming headphones while at work?
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On September 21 2013 09:09 TheYango wrote:
I think it's fine for people to have their own personal reasons for not following LPL.
What I think is ridiculous is people trying to pin the blame on PLU/Tencent for not making it easy enough to watch Chinese games.
I think it's partially their fault, lack of english casters + lack of popular western stream sites (twitch/azubu/youtube).
On September 21 2013 09:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:30 wei2coolman wrote:
in game sound definitely adds to experience. it makes it easier to tell if certain spells hit in bush, or not, thus letting viewers know, before the caster says something. that's not the question I'm asking the question is do you you really need sound? I swear a bunch of people watch league at work. Are they all wearing gaming headphones while at work?
I mean, it's like asking "do you really need to wear underwear?"
Sure you can go commando, but in ideal situation, I hope you do wear it.
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On September 21 2013 09:26 Zergneedsfood wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 09:24 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:19 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:
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Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl You see, I do, and that statement boggles my mind. And here we go again... if you say you are fine without sound, then it's fine, but when you put it in a way, where you basically say we suck, for wanting proper sounds, is just calling for a debate. how many wei2coolman clones are in this fucking thread? rofl *someone says "do you really need sound?"* *response is: "why you have to say we suck bro?"* TLGD. The mecca of league discussion and general intelligence. You add a rofl after your sentence, and now you act like you didn't mean it in a provocative way, haha. Amusing. Just because you think you are being witty with your mockings, doesn't mean you are actually any better, than the rest of us. I totally meant it in the way you thought I meant it. If you're going to put words in my mouth when I didn't say anything of the sort I see no reason to call you out on it. On September 21 2013 09:24 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:19 Volband wrote:On September 21 2013 09:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:On September 21 2013 09:15 Dan HH wrote:On September 21 2013 09:06 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 09:02 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 CountChocula wrote:On September 21 2013 08:57 nafta wrote:On September 21 2013 08:53 CountChocula wrote:
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Because it sounds like a bullshit rationalization. It's akin to eating sushi for the first time and not liking it, then wondering what all the fuss is about. What?It's more like eating sushi not liking it and not eating it.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Yes, but an adult would try it 10 times and see if it grows on them. Studies have shown that some foods are an acquired taste and you need to try it about 10-15 times to appreciate it. A child would be like, "Ew sushi. I'm not eating sushi ever again." Well if you don't want to eat something you shouldnt eat it?I don't really understand why I need to appreciate a particular type.All I say is "I don't like it" not "It is shit". Very surprised why this doesn't seem like a good reason to people lol. A mature person looks for reasons behind why they like or dislike something. The reason the first guy gave was very suspect. I've never heard someone say they think Chinese sounded bad, because it was "tonal". You guys are calling him immature and racist for disliking a SOUND, this is absurd. In your version of the world, a mature person would have to spend his entire time analysing foods, sounds, smells and surfaces that his senses don't feel right about? I just thought it was hilarious and the worst excuse to not watch something that I've ever seen. How many people really need sound when they watch League? rofl You see, I do, and that statement boggles my mind. And here we go again... if you say you are fine without sound, then it's fine, but when you put it in a way, where you basically say we suck, for wanting proper sounds, is just calling for a debate. how many wei2coolman clones are in this fucking thread? rofl *someone says "do you really need sound?"* *response is: "why you have to say we suck bro?"* TLGD. The mecca of league discussion and general intelligence. Honestly cant tell if trolling anymore. I figured cheep was but you went along like it was serious. You just joined in calling someone racist, then continued defending it like it was a defensible position. How is that in any way like just saying "do you really need sound?" pls tell me where I joined in on calling someone racist outside of quoting sheep's post with no additional content All I said was not watching a certain stream because you found the language annoying is an absolutely garbage excuse. I dislike Korean commentary half the time but that doesn't stop me from muting or putting something else on to listen.
Quoting something without adding anything is a basic one of saying "seconded." I tried muting it and listening to something else or watching it without sound. I got bored. I don't watch sports or esports to be bored. They are supposed to entertain us.
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On September 21 2013 09:29 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:11 Kiett wrote:
Personally, I find Cantonese to be unpleasant to listen to. As well as the dialect of my hometown, Wuhan, and my father's hometown, Ke Jia. I just do. I don't think there's anything racist about not liking the way a language sounds ._.
Fortunately, Mandarin sounds fine to me, and that's what everything is done in now, so yay ^^ Beijing Mandarin annoys me though, adding "-er" to perfectly good words zzzz
LOL
i find that hilarious, because i picked up the -er habit at some point in my childhood (only for a few words though, not everything. just like, ji dian -> ji dier) and i have no idea where it came from because nobody in my family is from beijing, and i've only been there once when i was 4 for a short visit. my little brother also picked it up, probably from me haha
On September 21 2013 09:22 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:18 Kiett wrote:On September 21 2013 09:14 Nos- wrote:On September 21 2013 09:11 Kiett wrote:
Personally, I find Cantonese to be unpleasant to listen to. As well as the dialect of my hometown, Wuhan, and my father's hometown, Ke Jia. I just do. I don't think there's anything racist about not liking the way a language sounds ._.
Fortunately, Mandarin sounds fine to me, and that's what everything is done in now, so yay ^^ yo what you're from Wu Han? yes sir, indeed i am! are you as well? on TL i've only known fishuu to be a fellow wuhan-born :o Yea I was born there and pretty much all of my family (except those that went overseas) are still living there. Have you gone back recently?
I went back in 09, right before I started college. It was way too hot for me to enjoy the place though, I just always wanted to be inside with AC xD
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