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On September 19 2013 08:23 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 07:53 O-ops wrote:On September 19 2013 07:06 O-ops wrote:On September 19 2013 07:05 Alaric wrote:
I still have trouble with stuff like "whom" despite learning it thrice. F'k it. >.> Understandable coming from a Frenchman #Kappa User was warned for this post I thought i was warned for taking potshots at the French. ...Got warned for using twitch memes. Not that i disagree with the warning btw, it's just rather funny that i was warned for that in that comment lol. And then you get bitter when you realise that despite my Frenchness there's actually a bunch of Americans on TL that still confuse stuff like there/their/they're or you're/your while I don't.  (Can't remember what I noticed exactly, iirc it was that the average German poster seemed to do less mistakes than the average Americain poster in the threads I was checking at the time.)
Non-native speakers usually tend to be more aware of grammatical rules than native speakers because they had them drilled into their heads while learning it while Native speakers just learn it growing up and forget/were not taught well the actual rules governing the language. That and people are just lazy as hell when it comes to there/their/they're etc.
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On September 19 2013 08:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 08:02 Vonthin wrote:On September 19 2013 07:57 Zdrastochye wrote:On September 19 2013 07:53 O-ops wrote:On September 19 2013 07:06 O-ops wrote:On September 19 2013 07:05 Alaric wrote:
I still have trouble with stuff like "whom" despite learning it thrice. F'k it. >.> Understandable coming from a Frenchman #Kappa User was warned for this post I thought i was warned for taking potshots at the French. ...Got warned for using twitch memes. Not that i disagree with the warning btw, it's just rather funny that i was warned for that in that comment lol. Because LR threads constantly shit over countries/regions, it's part of the hype, plus most use it ironically. EU > NA > KR At least group B taught me this.  NA is currently 2-1 vs EU right now not including gg.eu and our hands down best team hasn't played yet NA > EU > KR > NA
NA > EU > NA > KR
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If I am a part of C9 now I will definitely be so happy as I get to laugh at silly strategies and yet let the koreans and chinese show their strategies to me, and I can practice a counter right away. From the comfort of my own home/teamhouse.
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Earth > Char > Valoran > Azeroth > Korhal
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On September 19 2013 08:40 HaruRH wrote:
If I am a part of C9 now I will definitely be so happy as I get to laugh at silly strategies and yet let the koreans and chinese show their strategies to me, and I can practice a counter right away. From the comfort of my own home/teamhouse.
This insinuates that all strategies are being shown, or that a counter is capable of being produced in a week(in secret?). I'm not saying there's no advantage to the bye, but it's not like they're automatically going to have the master key to defeating their ro8 opponent because they don't have to play right now.
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Is Najin B and Royal Club that much stronger than the other Kor/Chinese teams? If not I can really see C9 taking it all :o
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On September 19 2013 07:25 Sprouter wrote:
you guys must be really bored without worlds to look forward to
WORK IS VERY BORING THATS FOR SURE
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On September 19 2013 08:53 HazMat wrote:
Is Najin B and Royal Club that much stronger than the other Kor/Chinese teams? If not I can really see C9 taking it all :o
I think the consensus is that SKT is the strongest Korean team but it appears to be close? Royal Club also ended up beating OMG too but the gap isn't that wide. C9 does have a good shot, because they don't do what has led to the downfall of teams vs Koreans/Chinese, make really stupid decisions and get caught a lot. C9 might have the most trouble against OMG because they play that early aggressive style and know how to snowball leads, while C9 is seen as being weakest in the early game.
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United States47024 Posts
On September 19 2013 08:53 HazMat wrote:
Is Najin B and Royal Club that much stronger than the other Kor/Chinese teams? If not I can really see C9 taking it all :o
Royal is stronger on a good day than OMG but less consistent.
That said, there are two things that I would like to point out:
1) I think OMG will beat C9 if they go up against each other. Not as a product of the skill difference, but because of how their playstyles match up. C9 is a team that tends to give up early advantages, and use superior map movement, teamfighting, and farming efficiency to make up for it in the midgame. But playing the game like this will play to OMG's strengths. OMG will take an early advantage, leverage that advantage for map control and a farm advantage, and just slow-roll that advantage. This is their comfort zone, and how they win every game they win. They simply disengage fights that they do not believe they can win, and they do a very good job of this. If you give them that early lead, they won't put themselves in a position where they can give it up.
All the teams that have ever beaten OMG have done so by getting an early advantage in the first place (Royal in the qualifiers, iG in their few wins against OMG in Spring split).
2) People are making an enormous leap in logic by comparing how stompy C9's games are vs. TSM to how comparatively close the group A games are. "Because C9 looks cleaner beating TSM than OMG or T1 did, C9 must play more cleanly than OMG or T1 on the whole". But you can't make that leap in logic. The reason is that the first time you're playing against a new team, your games will be sloppier against them than if you've played against them 50 times. Playing and beating a team repeatedly gets you accustomed to their shortcomings and their decision making process--you understand how they play better and therefore win games more cleanly against them, even if the "skill difference" has not actually grown between the two teams.
EVERY team in group stage has looked worse against teams they haven't faced before. They're playing against playstyles that they've never played against before, and therefore their sense of how a team will react to a given situation does not work at all. But the same will be true of C9 when they face foreign teams as well. They will look worse than they did in LCS when they play a foreign team for the first time too. They might still be good enough to win, but we can't know that at all right now.
Group B has a perfectly good proof of this in how Fnatic played. Their game vs. Gambit was far cleaner and more decisive than vs. Ozone. Even though Ozone is definitely playing worse than Gambit on the whole (and lost to them), Fnatic is far more comfortable winning against Gambit due to their familiarity.
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Depends who cloud9 is scrimming with. It seems like OMG is scrimming with pretty much everyone and I also think Royal seemed interesting in scrimming them ahead of time.
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c9 will get owned
it has been prophesied by confucius many years ago
"I know how the birds fly, how the fishes swim, how animals run. But there is the Dragon. I cannot tell how it mounts on the winds through the clouds and flies through heaven. Today I have seen the Dragon."
~ Confucius
The Dragon? Who is the Dragon?
“Don't wake a sleeping dragon"
~ Napoleon
"Beware the sleeping dragon. For when she awakes the Earth will shake."
~ Winston Churchill
WHO ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? WTF IS A DRAGON?
+ Show Spoiler [IT CAN ONLY BE....] +![[image loading]](http://i1.ytimg.com/sh/FYBz96m4U4g/showposter.jpg?v=51783c4d?feature=og) jk
+ Show Spoiler [jk] +
In totality, c9 are the clouds that the dragons will mount before flying to heaven
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United States37500 Posts
Royal is the real "dark horse". Tabe and Wh1t3zZ going to bring old school back. hue
I'm just echoing what Yango says, np.
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i believe in black sword, PraY/Cain op
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On September 19 2013 09:47 Zergneedsfood wrote:c9 will get owned it has been prophesied by confucius many years ago "I know how the birds fly, how the fishes swim, how animals run. But there is the Dragon. I cannot tell how it mounts on the winds through the clouds and flies through heaven. Today I have seen the Dragon."~ Confucius The Dragon? Who is the Dragon? “Don't wake a sleeping dragon"~ Napoleon "Beware the sleeping dragon. For when she awakes the Earth will shake."~ Winston Churchill WHO ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? WTF IS A DRAGON? + Show Spoiler [IT CAN ONLY BE....] + jk In totality, c9 are the clouds that the dragons will mount before flying to heaven
Of all the dragon games to choose, you choose a Lucky Shyv jungle? Godlike will not be pleased if he hears of this.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
someone earlier said that koreans rely too much on coaching and players themselves need to study foreigner games more.
this is a very good point. when you rely on coaching, you'll get a prepared game plan, at best a system of prepared counters. but oftentimes players are called upon to make decisions that run outside of the preparation. this improvisation needs knowledge of the opponents to really work.
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Zzitai believe Sword will win this tournament.
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god damn it, i thought worlds was on today and i was so hyped for it D:
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Baa?21244 Posts
sword is very strong i've been saying it
stupid to underestimate them
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United States37500 Posts
On September 19 2013 11:00 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
sword is very strong i've been saying it
stupid to underestimate them
What's strong about them currently?
What makes them better than their compatriots, say Ozone.
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