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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 25 2013 05:58 GMT
#2321
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 25 2013 05:59 GMT
#2322
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


He went invis and charged at Shy, how is that not forcing a fight?
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 25 2013 05:59 GMT
#2323
pls no double nunu.

dont even joke about it.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 06:00:03
May 25 2013 05:59 GMT
#2324
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


I don't know what your definition of "pick" is, but I think most people would agree that stealthing, approaching Shy, and then attacking him counts as "picking/forcing a fight".

e;fb
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2013 06:00 GMT
#2325
On May 25 2013 14:58 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:57 Shikyo wrote:
It puzzles me why people don't pick Yohohohorick


If you can kill his ghouls they count as minions and you're close enough to the fountain that you can b between waves if you clear fast enough.

They shouldn't count as minions, they give 0 gold...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 25 2013 06:00 GMT
#2326
Twitch lagging for me. Gone ahead and switched over to Azubu.

Not bad.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 25 2013 06:00 GMT
#2327
On May 25 2013 14:59 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


I don't know what your definition of "pick" is, but I think most people would agree that stealthing, approaching Shy, and then attacking him counts as "picking/forcing a fight".

e;fb


It's taiwanese courtship.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 25 2013 06:00 GMT
#2328
On May 25 2013 14:58 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...

It wasn't a mistake, a minion happened to die right as shy would die and that kept him alive, aka luck.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
May 25 2013 06:00 GMT
#2329
Ambition will give first blood, but stomp the CS count regardless... oh wait.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 25 2013 06:01 GMT
#2330
If I could see Singed/Garen vs Singed/Garen, I would be fine with not watching the rest of All-Stars.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 25 2013 06:02 GMT
#2331
On May 25 2013 15:01 Gahlo wrote:
If I could see Singed/Garen vs Singed/Garen, I would be fine with not watching the rest of All-Stars.


lol mirror matches definitely the best.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 25 2013 06:03 GMT
#2332
On May 25 2013 14:59 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


I don't know what your definition of "pick" is, but I think most people would agree that stealthing, approaching Shy, and then attacking him counts as "picking/forcing a fight".

e;fb

?He as in "Shy" didn't manage anything, the second "he" obviously still means shy, people don't go around using he for different people in the same phrase, lmao. If shy had picked the fight it would mean that there was a possibility of him having managed his xp advantage.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 06:06:23
May 25 2013 06:04 GMT
#2333
On May 25 2013 15:00 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:58 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...

It wasn't a mistake, a minion happened to die right as shy would die and that kept him alive, aka luck.


The minion actually died just as/after the fight started.

On May 25 2013 15:03 IshinShishi wrote:
?He as in "Shy" didn't manage anything, the second "he" obviously still means shy, people don't go around using he for different people in the same phrase, lmao. If shy had picked the fight it would mean that there was a possibility of him having managed his xp advantage.


The subject of the sentence you replied to was "Stanley". Any reasonable person would thus assume that the "he" you were referring to was the subject under discussion (i.e. Stanley).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2013 06:04 GMT
#2334
On May 25 2013 15:00 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:58 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...

It wasn't a mistake, a minion happened to die right as shy would die and that kept him alive, aka luck.

Of course it was a mistake if a minion died there. Also regardless of what you might think, minions don't just "happen" to die.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
May 25 2013 06:05 GMT
#2335
On May 25 2013 15:00 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:58 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 Shikyo wrote:
It puzzles me why people don't pick Yohohohorick


If you can kill his ghouls they count as minions and you're close enough to the fountain that you can b between waves if you clear fast enough.

They shouldn't count as minions, they give 0 gold...


They grant gold if killed by parley, someone with tf buff, etc. Pretty sure they count as minions.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2013 06:07 GMT
#2336
On May 25 2013 15:05 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 15:00 Shikyo wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 Shikyo wrote:
It puzzles me why people don't pick Yohohohorick


If you can kill his ghouls they count as minions and you're close enough to the fountain that you can b between waves if you clear fast enough.

They shouldn't count as minions, they give 0 gold...


They grant gold if killed by parley, someone with tf buff, etc. Pretty sure they count as minions.

But for this competition they shouldn't count because the whole point of the minion kill counter is that you count the minions that give gold so you see who's ahead etc. If they count as minions while giving no gold it makes no sense to count them...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 25 2013 06:07 GMT
#2337
On May 25 2013 15:04 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 15:00 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...

It wasn't a mistake, a minion happened to die right as shy would die and that kept him alive, aka luck.

Of course it was a mistake if a minion died there. Also regardless of what you might think, minions don't just "happen" to die.

It's not only about the minion dying, it's about neither shy nor stanley taking that into account when the fight occurred, that's what makes it lucky, it was out of shy's control or awareness, he got lucky.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 25 2013 06:08 GMT
#2338
On May 25 2013 15:04 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 15:00 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...

It wasn't a mistake, a minion happened to die right as shy would die and that kept him alive, aka luck.


The minion actually died just as/after the fight started.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 15:03 IshinShishi wrote:
?He as in "Shy" didn't manage anything, the second "he" obviously still means shy, people don't go around using he for different people in the same phrase, lmao. If shy had picked the fight it would mean that there was a possibility of him having managed his xp advantage.


The subject of the sentence you replied to was "Stanley". Any reasonable person would thus assume that the "he" you were referring to was the subject under discussion (i.e. Stanley).

Reread the whole dialogue, won't waste my time breaking it down.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
thefreed
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
May 25 2013 06:09 GMT
#2339
On May 25 2013 15:07 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 15:04 Shikyo wrote:
On May 25 2013 15:00 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...

It wasn't a mistake, a minion happened to die right as shy would die and that kept him alive, aka luck.

Of course it was a mistake if a minion died there. Also regardless of what you might think, minions don't just "happen" to die.

It's not only about the minion dying, it's about neither shy nor stanley taking that into account when the fight occurred, that's what makes it lucky, it was out of shy's control or awareness, he got lucky.


I don't get how you call getting ahead in minion kills therefore, farther in experience and money luck.
That's stanley's fault for letting it get that way. If he was better he would've killed more minions and leveled up faster then Shy that way. Then he would've been the one that won.
My country is the world, My religion is to do good. -T.P The fool doth thinks his a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool. -W.S
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 06:11:03
May 25 2013 06:09 GMT
#2340
On May 25 2013 15:07 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 15:04 Shikyo wrote:
On May 25 2013 15:00 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...

It wasn't a mistake, a minion happened to die right as shy would die and that kept him alive, aka luck.

Of course it was a mistake if a minion died there. Also regardless of what you might think, minions don't just "happen" to die.

It's not only about the minion dying, it's about neither shy nor stanley taking that into account when the fight occurred, that's what makes it lucky, it was out of shy's control or awareness, he got lucky.

Really? I pay attention to my levels and minions being close to dying all the time and I'm silver, why do you assume that a progamer wouldn't?

On May 25 2013 15:04 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 15:00 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:57 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 14:56 IshinShishi wrote:
sheer luck won shy that game, then again stanley shouldn't have gone back so early.


Level management is not luck. Stanley was on the back foot and forced a bad fight.

He didn't manage anything, he didn't pick that fight either.


Stanley forced the fight. It was Stanley's mistake...

It wasn't a mistake, a minion happened to die right as shy would die and that kept him alive, aka luck.


The minion actually died just as/after the fight started.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 15:03 IshinShishi wrote:
?He as in "Shy" didn't manage anything, the second "he" obviously still means shy, people don't go around using he for different people in the same phrase, lmao. If shy had picked the fight it would mean that there was a possibility of him having managed his xp advantage.


The subject of the sentence you replied to was "Stanley". Any reasonable person would thus assume that the "he" you were referring to was the subject under discussion (i.e. Stanley).

He replied to the "level management" which was pretty obviously stated in his sentence. Level management was supposedly done by Shy so he was talking about shy... Talking about level management of Stanley when level management of Stanley wasn't mentioned would make no sense.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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