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Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
January 20 2013 16:35 GMT
#1901
Alex forgive me for doubting your Ryze <3
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 20 2013 16:35 GMT
#1902
lol scumbag Gosu randomly dies toplane while genja is at dragon
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 16:36:50
January 20 2013 16:35 GMT
#1903
On January 21 2013 01:16 little fancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 01:08 Alaric wrote:
On January 21 2013 01:04 little fancy wrote:
I LOVE THIS GAME - so much tankiness everywhere, teamfights last 20+ seconds before someone dies and it's just a 10 men brawl in the middle of nowhere, everybody hitting everybody. SO much fun to watch, great!

I actually dislike it because of the emphasis it puts on belt items. Randuin's and warmogs are pretty much mandatory, with sunfire being a nice, if midgame-centered because of slot-efficiency, third one.
So far we saw near nigh variety in builds and though teamfights last kinda long, I'd rather have a 10+ seconds fight relying on clutch key skills coming off cooldown and positioning, rather than people just running around because the amount of damage they do is so low.

There's a difference between "not getting an ace in 2s from stacking AoE" and "not doing damage so it takes ages to die". :/
I don't hate it on the principle. But it really starts to tire me because of the scale it's reaching.


Maybe I'd agree with you if it stays that way. However, for me it is a welcome relief compared the the boring 'press R and stack ultimates until everyone melts' strategy. And I feel like it makes clutch ultimate use even more necessary (Sona's / Xin's come to mind).

But yeah, Giant's Belt is a staple for a lot of standard defensive items and with Warmog's it's too strong right now (but I guess Riot already admitted that and is going to tweak this irrc). But maybe this wouldn't be a problem if 'real' APs would be played more often which they currently are not because of the strong AD casters (Kha'zix is ridicoulus on this patch). That way, a Singed couldn't just stack armor + HP and have 200+ armor left after LW penetration, thus overall champs would die faster again.

I agree that it's refreshing, but the tendency is a lot less appealing to me.
Having threats like Kha'Zix forces AD carries to build more defensively, which I'm fine with (even though they end up using the same default items than everyone, hi warmogs). The problem is that with everyone building so tanky, the loss of damage from an AD carry means it takes ages to kill somebody.
Add to that that everybody is so tanky that burst can't kill anyone anymore, and you go from intermediate teamfights where after the dust of initiation settles, there are wounded and low targets of various priorities that have to reposition, manage cooldowns, etc. accordingly, to teamfights where the main effect of initiation is "Kha'Zix is now in the middle of us, move back to avoid him" and everybody's full HP.

Toward the end of s2/start of s3 it's true that burst and initiation had too much importance (Kha'Zix, Eve, MF really [too] strong). But now wer'e on the other extreme of the scale, where burst doesn't really matter (or only if it's followed by "regular" carry dps, cf. Kha'Zix) because it fails to kill, or even bring low anyone, and then you're useless.

The only AP champs that I see having success (in a teamfighting comp context, obviously stuff like Nidalee will remain godlike at poking and splitpushing) if that tendency keeps going are Karthus, Ryze, Eve, Kayle... champs who, more importantly than burst, have excellent dps on top of durability/survivability (Karthus doesn't need to build tanky but his passive makes it so he'll still do more damage and it's what counts).


Having Viktor go from powerful pick to weak, and my last game plagued by 10 belts/belt items and 4 kindlegems/kindlegem items felt pretty symptomatic to me.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 16:36:41
January 20 2013 16:35 GMT
#1904
The lag is back Q__Q

Stop lagging this is like torture ;__;
;;
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
January 20 2013 16:36 GMT
#1905
The stream can't handle 180.000+ people, time to change to the korean again.
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 20 2013 16:37 GMT
#1906
On January 21 2013 01:36 CrimsonLotus wrote:
The stream can't handle 180.000+ people, time to change to the korean again.

Why would you ever leave it ? :o
The legend of Darien lives on
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
January 20 2013 16:38 GMT
#1907
On January 21 2013 01:37 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 01:36 CrimsonLotus wrote:
The stream can't handle 180.000+ people, time to change to the korean again.

Why would you ever leave it ? :o


I like deman's voice.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 20 2013 16:38 GMT
#1908
nooo why lagg now
Blurio
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany288 Posts
January 20 2013 16:39 GMT
#1909
Annnnnd it's gone.
discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
January 20 2013 16:40 GMT
#1910
Korean stream it is

They truly love their Blitzcranks^^
;;
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
January 20 2013 16:40 GMT
#1911
link for the korean stream please
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 16:40:53
January 20 2013 16:40 GMT
#1912
Why didn't we have this lagg when those games were 100% one sided instead. the luck !
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 16:42:00
January 20 2013 16:40 GMT
#1913
On January 21 2013 01:40 Special Endrey wrote:
link for the korean stream please

http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3155

damn that turnaround from M5, koreans really like to camp brushes for extended period of time.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 16:41:54
January 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#1914
Locket up for GBG, this teamfight should go in their favor.

EDIT : wow dat manmode from Darien. This Aligator is never afraid.
The legend of Darien lives on
discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
January 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#1915
On January 21 2013 01:40 Special Endrey wrote:
link for the korean stream please


http://www.twitch.tv/nicegametv
;;
discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
January 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#1916
Damn that locket srsly saved them there ^__^
;;
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#1917
Oh the balls on Darien :D
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
January 20 2013 16:42 GMT
#1918
Renekton never dies, GG wins fight 4v5 lol
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 16:42:21
January 20 2013 16:42 GMT
#1919
Hello Xin ult. Stronk burst, gave them the oomph to kill Anivia.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
January 20 2013 16:42 GMT
#1920
How to win teamfight with one renekton Q
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