EPT[IPL] IPL4 Main Event Discussion - Page 327
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On April 09 2012 19:29 Jiroz wrote: Being a sub 1000 elo scrub I probably shouldn't comment, but did anybody else find Hotshot's Olaf build seems very unusual? I think he went shurelia's first or something along those lines. Hotshot's olaf is very...special. I remember dyrus going "WTF?" on stream when he saw hotshot run flash/TP olaf. Even in the games they won with olaf, hotshot was getting more or less carried. It's like how weak his Shen was a few weeks back - just because it's the new op top lane doesn't mean you don't need a heavy amount of practice with him to do well. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
http://ipl4.leagueoflegends.com/galleries/videos/day-1 Oh Riot has all the Vods they are just unlisted. | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
On April 09 2012 22:37 wintergt wrote: Is there a VOD up yet for the finals? I fell asleep. Try this | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
On April 09 2012 22:55 BlackMagister wrote: Vods http://ipl4.leagueoflegends.com/galleries/videos/day-1 Oh Riot has all the Vods they are just unlisted. Thanks, and they seem to be listed too now if you click 'day 3'. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On April 09 2012 23:37 emucxg wrote: what runes does saint run on shyvana? He used to run aspeed/armor/mr.lvl/armpen. I do not know if he has switched to the diamondprox ad/armor/as/ad page as of yet. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On April 09 2012 23:37 emucxg wrote: what runes does saint run on shyvana? On NA, his page 16 is named Shyvana AS FlatArmor MR/Level AD | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
hotshotgg has to go, he blows so hard | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On April 10 2012 04:24 nyxnyxnyx wrote: just finished watching all the clg vs tsm games (and also other clg games actually) hotshotgg has to go, he blows so hard except he did really well the entire rest of the tournament? i mean in terms of consistency, chaox was worse all tourney, he just pulled it through the last two games | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On April 10 2012 04:24 nyxnyxnyx wrote: just finished watching all the clg vs tsm games (and also other clg games actually) hotshotgg has to go, he blows so hard Right, because he wasn't playing really well in the first set, right? | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
hotshotgg is good at running around and being a giant PITA and not dying in general, but that's really all he's good for. it doesn't take skill to splitpush (although knowing when to B is indeed amazing) but he plays overly defensive so i don't give him credit for that. i would take voyboy over him any day and CLG probably knows it. hotshot easily the weakest link in CLG | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On April 10 2012 04:48 nyxnyxnyx wrote: to examine if hsgg really did 'well', we first try to consider if what he did in the games he 'performed' were a direct result of his skill or his whole team making a play hotshotgg is good at running around and being a giant PITA and not dying in general, but that's really all he's good for. it doesn't take skill to splitpush (although knowing when to B is indeed amazing) but he plays overly defensive so i don't give him credit for that. i would take voyboy over him any day and CLG probably knows it. hotshot easily the weakest link in CLG voyboy's overaggression without knowledge of jungler position arguably knocked dignitas out of the tourney also, his nid pretty much gives clg a free win because it's like the centerpiece of their tried and true poke comp. cho isn't super easy either, but he lands ruptures on ganks about half the time so his lane always has plenty of pressure | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Problem is that the majority of tops in lol have way too limited a selection of champs and way too high a variation of play, even at top level. There really is no consistently dominating top laner when it comes to tournament play, although Darien does come the closest when he is on lan. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
and the pool isn't horrible either: despite the loss of irelia, there's still olaf, singed, vlad, nid, cho, riven, ls, udyr, gp, yorick, swain, ryze, nunu, fiora, shen, lulu, cass, rumble, and the random AD that can sometimes show up there though i'm not arguing with the fact that hotshot sucks at olaf and dyrus is the only one i've seen consistently do well with him top | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On April 10 2012 04:53 Two_DoWn wrote: Problem is that the majority of tops in lol have way too limited a selection of champs and way too high a variation of play, even at top level. As someone who is most certainly not good at this game, I think that top lane is probably the hardest role during early game. Arguably hardest role all game long. The number of viable champions for top is huge, the chance that any top laner is well versed in every match up is pretty much nonexistent. Combine that with the fact that top is the most likely lane to get ganked or camped and you get one of the most silly experiences in video games. For example, was whoever played v8 when TreeEski played Mundo likely very well versed in that match up? Probably not, Mundo is a pretty rare solo top these days. What Hotshot experienced at all against Lulu top? Hell no because practically no one has done that and it's a new champion. Like when you have a lane where bruisers are probably the closest thing to the norm yet you also have at least four or five APs who can run that lane as well as champions like Teemo it's a lot to ask of anyone to become well versed in every match up. It's a lot to ask of anyone to consistently win top lane. I've seen Dyrus, Hotshot, Voyboy, and practically every other top laner that's been in the pro scene for more than six months carry their team crazy hard from top lane while also fail and cost their team the game by losing top so hard. tl;dr Fuck top lane. | ||
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Lancer723
United States486 Posts
On April 10 2012 04:35 zulu_nation8 wrote: in chauster's ama on the clg forums, he said something like i believe hotshot can play support at a decent level, probably just giving him false confidence so chaugod can finally take a solo like he deserves. He also said something like I wanna try to playing different roles at tourney level. It's honestly pretty sad that arguably the most versatile and one of the best NA players is stuck playing support for his team simply because his team is so limited. Support is very difficult to play, I always had the belief that you want your best player on support, or at least the smartest and most versatile one. Look at what Xpecial does for TSM, he is that teams fricken rock, always solid, I thought he was TSM's overall best player this tourney. | ||
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