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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:51:41
March 07 2012 09:51 GMT
#1701
So i missed the start of the game, did Rainman build Triforce into Wits End?

Edit: And Beserker boots?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:51:37
March 07 2012 09:51 GMT
#1702
regardless, TOO is so good, stuck with such bads, poor guy. i have also seen a ton of people hype xpecial's play but i was not uber impressed. xpecial + chaox is supposed to be the best bot lane combo right? why are they losing to elementzzzzzz


They didn't, they had an advantage for quite a while, although I was puzzled that they failed to press it. At one point chaox + xpecial had total ward coverage and kog had no pots and no mana while chaox had all 3 of his pots left and they didn't make any effort at all to zone kog. was really weird.

there was absolutely nothing TRM could have done, they got comped too hard. bot lane needed to destroy the weak nunu lane for that game to be winnable and they just didn't.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:52:47
March 07 2012 09:52 GMT
#1703
On March 07 2012 18:50 Zooper31 wrote:
Regi missed several key ults that could've gave insta gibbs or won teamfights, Chaox constantly got hit by morg Qs and took tons of un-needed dmg and forced his team to play defensive giving up positions, and Kogmaw played amazingly well and got several early kills during teamfights which gave him some huge momentum.

Basically summary of the game from a TSM fanboy lol. That last teamfight was the best one they did all game imo, hope that meant they had their gameplan figured out.


that's because they just went balls out because they knew both exhausts were down and it was the last hope, = rainman can actually dive and kog almost dies.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 07 2012 09:52 GMT
#1704
TRM really needs to learn to play poppy srsly.
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
March 07 2012 09:52 GMT
#1705
On March 07 2012 18:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
regardless, TOO is so good, stuck with such bads, poor guy. i have also seen a ton of people hype xpecial's play but i was not uber impressed. xpecial + chaox is supposed to be the best bot lane combo right? why are they losing to elementzzzzzz


They didn't, they had an advantage for quite a while, although I was puzzled that they failed to press it. At one point chaox + xpecial had total ward coverage and kog had no pots and no mana while chaox had all 3 of his pots left and they didn't make any effort at all to zone kog. was really weird.

there was absolutely nothing TRM could have done, they got comped too hard. bot lane needed to destroy the weak nunu lane for that game to be winnable and they just didn't.


i dunno, i can see the reasoning behind TSM's comp. split up kog and nunu, then use sivir's ult combined with irelia's true damage and attack speed to destroy the kog. it makes sense. they just executed it so poorly
would you ever miss it?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 07 2012 09:52 GMT
#1706
On March 07 2012 18:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
regardless, TOO is so good, stuck with such bads, poor guy. i have also seen a ton of people hype xpecial's play but i was not uber impressed. xpecial + chaox is supposed to be the best bot lane combo right? why are they losing to elementzzzzzz


They didn't, they had an advantage for quite a while, although I was puzzled that they failed to press it. At one point chaox + xpecial had total ward coverage and kog had no pots and no mana while chaox had all 3 of his pots left and they didn't make any effort at all to zone kog. was really weird.

there was absolutely nothing TRM could have done, they got comped too hard. bot lane needed to destroy the weak nunu lane for that game to be winnable and they just didn't.

Mmm, maybe. There was that successful gank bottom which lead to a dragon so after that it's pretty much even.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 07 2012 09:53 GMT
#1707
On March 07 2012 18:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 07 2012 17:25 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Maybe it is today, but have you seem them practise? Its just all over the place and not coordinated. If they win then good for them , but I dont really see them playing well in this.


Cough.


Not just him though. A lot of people, like Two_DoWn, thought the same thing. People need to have a better eye on how teams look at their most recent.

People don't know about dat Nyjacky.


Yeah but this is why preconceived notions are bad. I've said before the event started that Curse would darkhorse it up, and not that one game proves me right, beating TSM is a good sign.

Having laned vs Nyjacky a bunch of times, I can say he's all sorts of scary no matter which champ he's playing.
Hey! How you doin'?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 07 2012 09:54 GMT
#1708
People overrate this group. Since kiev TSM and M5 have been playing awful.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
March 07 2012 09:54 GMT
#1709
SK just got 1st blood, gold even between both teams now
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 07 2012 09:55 GMT
#1710
Nyjacky got improved when he was in China during the summer, and got played in Chinese server with Chinese progamers.

u heard it first.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:57:02
March 07 2012 09:56 GMT
#1711
On March 07 2012 18:52 deskscaress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
regardless, TOO is so good, stuck with such bads, poor guy. i have also seen a ton of people hype xpecial's play but i was not uber impressed. xpecial + chaox is supposed to be the best bot lane combo right? why are they losing to elementzzzzzz


They didn't, they had an advantage for quite a while, although I was puzzled that they failed to press it. At one point chaox + xpecial had total ward coverage and kog had no pots and no mana while chaox had all 3 of his pots left and they didn't make any effort at all to zone kog. was really weird.

there was absolutely nothing TRM could have done, they got comped too hard. bot lane needed to destroy the weak nunu lane for that game to be winnable and they just didn't.


i dunno, i can see the reasoning behind TSM's comp. split up kog and nunu, then use sivir's ult combined with irelia's true damage and attack speed to destroy the kog. it makes sense. they just executed it so poorly


yeah it makes sense... i mean you definitely understand what they were going for better than I did... but it still just seems like way too much peeling power. Sivir just cannot get close enough to hit anyone that matters with that comp so all they need to do is peel off rainman and they just have so many tools for it. seems doomed. The weakness of that comp is that their bot lane is weak and they didn't get punished for it.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
March 07 2012 09:57 GMT
#1712
Vlad and Trist out-csing Udyr and Graves respectively. Cass beating Galio mid.

SK going for first dragon at 13 minutes, gets it for free.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
March 07 2012 09:57 GMT
#1713
On March 07 2012 18:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
People overrate this group. Since kiev TSM and M5 have been playing awful.


TSM slumping and M5 letting that win get to their heads imo.

Regi always gives FB away and then plays risky whole game, TRM continues to make stupid decisions often dying, Oddone making clutch plays when needed, and Chaox/Xpecial continue to win lane vs anyone they are paired against though not always taking that lead and making plays off it.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 07 2012 09:57 GMT
#1714
On March 07 2012 18:55 emucxg wrote:
Nyjacky got improved when he was in China during the summer, and got played in Chinese server with Chinese progamers.

u heard it first.


People should watch his stream, if they haven't already. His combos with AP carries is top notch~
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:58:57
March 07 2012 09:58 GMT
#1715
Usually I'm a huge TSM fanboy (TRM, TOO <3). But I don't know, the sub being German (me being German myself) and the underdog and all that shit made me really root for him - and Curse in the process.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 07 2012 09:59 GMT
#1716
I don't know top lane matchups that well, but jesus, is udyr supposed to be losing like that? Like, you let the lane push because you have lee sin, zone him early, then just destroy him if he comes close. You've got lee sin udyr vs vlad shyv, you can definitely overextend on udyr.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 07 2012 09:59 GMT
#1717
On March 07 2012 18:47 Celestial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:43 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:39 emucxg wrote:
trm needs to stop playing irelia and xpecial should stop playing sona


and imho karthus would be better for regi to deal vs that team comp


has nothing to do with any of those picks imo... they gave curse the combo of morg + kog + nunu.

Morgana not the problem. Orianna is wayyyyyyy better at «protect the kog».


Yeah I don't see how that's even possible for Morg to be less effective than Orianna at defending a Kog vs a Gragas/Sona/Maokai team. All those great timed black shields totally nullified any Gragas ult, Orianna would have to salvage scraps from that.

The black shield only was used to protect Kog from Gragas ult. This + the slow from her ult (she nearly never hit the stun from it). That's all Morg did at protecting Kog. Even thoguh the black shields were nice, an Orianna offers a 6s CD slow+speed up to the Kog, 30MR/30armor and 400hp on the same CD, and very fast nukes to deter anybody new from coming. Not to mention a displacement ult.

Orianna is to me the #1 carry protector mid, even though the Black shield is a very nice skill, Orianna has spammable utility to help the carry.

And if you get her a Rylai it just gets stupid, every time you shield your carry the opponents are slowed, as well as with all the nukes flying.
The legend of Darien lives on
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:01:24
March 07 2012 10:00 GMT
#1718
Sypher vs SK

Shyvana comes in to a pushed bot lane to try for a lane gank, with blitz and trist. Lucky for SK, ocelote come in for a lane gank at the same time with cassio. Blitz gets a pull on graves, and tristana jumps on, however ocelote gets a perfect ult on 3 of them, all die.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 07 2012 10:00 GMT
#1719
On March 07 2012 18:52 deskscaress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
regardless, TOO is so good, stuck with such bads, poor guy. i have also seen a ton of people hype xpecial's play but i was not uber impressed. xpecial + chaox is supposed to be the best bot lane combo right? why are they losing to elementzzzzzz


They didn't, they had an advantage for quite a while, although I was puzzled that they failed to press it. At one point chaox + xpecial had total ward coverage and kog had no pots and no mana while chaox had all 3 of his pots left and they didn't make any effort at all to zone kog. was really weird.

there was absolutely nothing TRM could have done, they got comped too hard. bot lane needed to destroy the weak nunu lane for that game to be winnable and they just didn't.


i dunno, i can see the reasoning behind TSM's comp. split up kog and nunu, then use sivir's ult combined with irelia's true damage and attack speed to destroy the kog. it makes sense. they just executed it so poorly

OK, this is what happend.

TSM always charge in first -> morg ulti 4 people -> everyone pull out -> TRM still fighting because he is already using his Q to charge for Kogmaw -> TSM now charge again but this time its 4v5 - > KogMaw rapes TSM
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
March 07 2012 10:01 GMT
#1720
Rooting for Crs to make it out of this group btw. All the other team's are unknown's or have atleast 1 player i dislike
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