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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
March 07 2012 10:01 GMT
#1721
M5 vs EHOME coming up on main stream.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 07 2012 10:02 GMT
#1722
On March 07 2012 18:59 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:47 Celestial wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:43 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:39 emucxg wrote:
trm needs to stop playing irelia and xpecial should stop playing sona


and imho karthus would be better for regi to deal vs that team comp


has nothing to do with any of those picks imo... they gave curse the combo of morg + kog + nunu.

Morgana not the problem. Orianna is wayyyyyyy better at «protect the kog».


Yeah I don't see how that's even possible for Morg to be less effective than Orianna at defending a Kog vs a Gragas/Sona/Maokai team. All those great timed black shields totally nullified any Gragas ult, Orianna would have to salvage scraps from that.

The black shield only was used to protect Kog from Gragas ult. This + the slow from her ult (she nearly never hit the stun from it). That's all Morg did at protecting Kog. Even thoguh the black shields were nice, an Orianna offers a 6s CD slow+speed up to the Kog, 30MR/30armor and 400hp on the same CD, and very fast nukes to deter anybody new from coming. Not to mention a displacement ult.

Orianna is to me the #1 carry protector mid, even though the Black shield is a very nice skill, Orianna has spammable utility to help the carry.

And if you get her a Rylai it just gets stupid, every time you shield your carry the opponents are slowed, as well as with all the nukes flying.


And all of that totally pales in comparison to being able to nullify displace from gragas ult. All the shields, displaces and movements buffs are gonna do jack shit after kog got knocked into the enemy team. Morg shield stops that from happening, everything past that is secondary.

It's kog, he explodes (twice) if he gets out of position for a split second.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 07 2012 10:02 GMT
#1723
I think people are really misplacing 'blame' on the TSM team. Regi's 'missed ults' were pretty on point, but Nyjacky showed some fantastic reaction time black shields(thus making the ults look like duds). Rainman got dunked on by the exhausts+initial focus. It really comes down to the fact that Crs went all-in on a Nunu+Kog lane vs Sivir+Sona, Sivir/Sona needs to dominate that matchup, and they didn't. The game seemed to turn at that point where Kog finished his IE and Chaox kept hesitating to recall to finish his, and from that point on Kog kept himself 1 item up on Sivir.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 07 2012 10:02 GMT
#1724
Fuk, my proxy server fail me today. The stream lagging from time to time for me. Just missed the first game because of this T_T. Looking forward to see Ehome vs M5 though
Terran
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
March 07 2012 10:02 GMT
#1725
Can anyone shed some light on how good EHOME are? Ive never seen them play before
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 07 2012 10:03 GMT
#1726
Why didnt Sypher ban Cassio? Dont give Oce one of his mains ....
KCCO!
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 07 2012 10:03 GMT
#1727
On March 07 2012 19:02 Vequeth wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on how good EHOME are? Ive never seen them play before
Only thing I know about EHOME is that PDD plays some sick Garen.
#freeshauni
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 07 2012 10:03 GMT
#1728
On March 07 2012 18:59 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:47 Celestial wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:43 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:39 emucxg wrote:
trm needs to stop playing irelia and xpecial should stop playing sona


and imho karthus would be better for regi to deal vs that team comp


has nothing to do with any of those picks imo... they gave curse the combo of morg + kog + nunu.

Morgana not the problem. Orianna is wayyyyyyy better at «protect the kog».


Yeah I don't see how that's even possible for Morg to be less effective than Orianna at defending a Kog vs a Gragas/Sona/Maokai team. All those great timed black shields totally nullified any Gragas ult, Orianna would have to salvage scraps from that.

The black shield only was used to protect Kog from Gragas ult. This + the slow from her ult (she nearly never hit the stun from it). That's all Morg did at protecting Kog. Even thoguh the black shields were nice, an Orianna offers a 6s CD slow+speed up to the Kog, 30MR/30armor and 400hp on the same CD, and very fast nukes to deter anybody new from coming. Not to mention a displacement ult.

Orianna is to me the #1 carry protector mid, even though the Black shield is a very nice skill, Orianna has spammable utility to help the carry.

And if you get her a Rylai it just gets stupid, every time you shield your carry the opponents are slowed, as well as with all the nukes flying.


Black Shield prevents Regi from ulting Kog into their whole team. Cop was out of position a couple times and he got bailed out. Maybe if you're considering perfect positioning Ori's shield and speed buff is more valuable, but for that game it was not.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 07 2012 10:04 GMT
#1729
SK in a very comfortable lead vs Sypher, picking up a baron right now and ahead in kills 6-0.
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
March 07 2012 10:04 GMT
#1730
SK grabs dragon, kills two of Sypher and takes a 20 minute Baron.

Sypher down 5k gold, 6 kills, 2 towers.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 07 2012 10:04 GMT
#1731
On March 07 2012 19:00 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:52 deskscaress wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
regardless, TOO is so good, stuck with such bads, poor guy. i have also seen a ton of people hype xpecial's play but i was not uber impressed. xpecial + chaox is supposed to be the best bot lane combo right? why are they losing to elementzzzzzz


They didn't, they had an advantage for quite a while, although I was puzzled that they failed to press it. At one point chaox + xpecial had total ward coverage and kog had no pots and no mana while chaox had all 3 of his pots left and they didn't make any effort at all to zone kog. was really weird.

there was absolutely nothing TRM could have done, they got comped too hard. bot lane needed to destroy the weak nunu lane for that game to be winnable and they just didn't.


i dunno, i can see the reasoning behind TSM's comp. split up kog and nunu, then use sivir's ult combined with irelia's true damage and attack speed to destroy the kog. it makes sense. they just executed it so poorly

OK, this is what happend.

TSM always charge in first -> morg ulti 4 people -> everyone pull out -> TRM still fighting because he is already using his Q to charge for Kogmaw -> TSM now charge again but this time its 4v5 - > KogMaw rapes TSM


This is a fairly accurate play of what happened. TRM was always first in, first to die, lolol.
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
March 07 2012 10:04 GMT
#1732
sypher getting destroyed by sk on the absolute stream
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 07 2012 10:05 GMT
#1733
On March 07 2012 19:03 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:02 Vequeth wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on how good EHOME are? Ive never seen them play before
Only thing I know about EHOME is that PDD plays some sick Garen.

Yeah, when people though that Garen solo top is trash. PDD just shut down his opponent so hard. Was that in the WCG 2011?
Terran
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 07 2012 10:05 GMT
#1734
On March 07 2012 19:02 Vequeth wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on how good EHOME are? Ive never seen them play before

they are pretty bad imho... they havent won any tournament in China yet.
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:07:34
March 07 2012 10:05 GMT
#1735
On March 07 2012 18:59 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:47 Celestial wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:43 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:39 emucxg wrote:
trm needs to stop playing irelia and xpecial should stop playing sona


and imho karthus would be better for regi to deal vs that team comp


has nothing to do with any of those picks imo... they gave curse the combo of morg + kog + nunu.

Morgana not the problem. Orianna is wayyyyyyy better at «protect the kog».


Yeah I don't see how that's even possible for Morg to be less effective than Orianna at defending a Kog vs a Gragas/Sona/Maokai team. All those great timed black shields totally nullified any Gragas ult, Orianna would have to salvage scraps from that.

The black shield only was used to protect Kog from Gragas ult. This + the slow from her ult (she nearly never hit the stun from it). That's all Morg did at protecting Kog. Even thoguh the black shields were nice, an Orianna offers a 6s CD slow+speed up to the Kog, 30MR/30armor and 400hp on the same CD, and very fast nukes to deter anybody new from coming. Not to mention a displacement ult.

Orianna is to me the #1 carry protector mid, even though the Black shield is a very nice skill, Orianna has spammable utility to help the carry.

And if you get her a Rylai it just gets stupid, every time you shield your carry the opponents are slowed, as well as with all the nukes flying.


EDIT: Daemir beat me to it.

Let's go EHOME, Crush the red army!
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 07 2012 10:06 GMT
#1736
Alex so diplomatic now lolol
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
March 07 2012 10:07 GMT
#1737
On March 07 2012 19:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:00 emucxg wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:52 deskscaress wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
regardless, TOO is so good, stuck with such bads, poor guy. i have also seen a ton of people hype xpecial's play but i was not uber impressed. xpecial + chaox is supposed to be the best bot lane combo right? why are they losing to elementzzzzzz


They didn't, they had an advantage for quite a while, although I was puzzled that they failed to press it. At one point chaox + xpecial had total ward coverage and kog had no pots and no mana while chaox had all 3 of his pots left and they didn't make any effort at all to zone kog. was really weird.

there was absolutely nothing TRM could have done, they got comped too hard. bot lane needed to destroy the weak nunu lane for that game to be winnable and they just didn't.


i dunno, i can see the reasoning behind TSM's comp. split up kog and nunu, then use sivir's ult combined with irelia's true damage and attack speed to destroy the kog. it makes sense. they just executed it so poorly

OK, this is what happend.

TSM always charge in first -> morg ulti 4 people -> everyone pull out -> TRM still fighting because he is already using his Q to charge for Kogmaw -> TSM now charge again but this time its 4v5 - > KogMaw rapes TSM


This is a fairly accurate play of what happened. TRM was always first in, first to die, lolol.


Plus, for someone diving in the middle of team fights, why on earth wasnt he running merc treads.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 07 2012 10:07 GMT
#1738
cmon go to the picks n bans, wanna watch EHOME pick some weird compo
KCCO!
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 07 2012 10:07 GMT
#1739
I'm so far behidn on the ESPORTS scene but I'm so so tempted to watch this night to try and catch up on how TSM/Curse/M5 are doing now. Last tourney I saw M5 impressed me like no other team before.
Retvrn to Forvms
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 07 2012 10:07 GMT
#1740
It's gonna be a great game imo, if I remember correctly chinese team are very agressive.
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