Orianna...Shield + MS, A good peel Ult. To use the MS, you put a nuke on cd.
Morg...Shield + CANCELLING EVERY CC, A good peel Ult.
I don't understand how Ori is in Morg's class at "Protect the Kog".
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LightRailCoyote
United States982 Posts
March 07 2012 09:46 GMT
#1681
On March 07 2012 18:44 UniversalSnip wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2012 18:43 mr_tolkien wrote: On March 07 2012 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote: On March 07 2012 18:39 emucxg wrote: trm needs to stop playing irelia and xpecial should stop playing sona and imho karthus would be better for regi to deal vs that team comp has nothing to do with any of those picks imo... they gave curse the combo of morg + kog + nunu. Morgana not the problem. Orianna is wayyyyyyy better at «protect the kog». I don't agree, but ok... Orianna...Shield + MS, A good peel Ult. To use the MS, you put a nuke on cd. Morg...Shield + CANCELLING EVERY CC, A good peel Ult. I don't understand how Ori is in Morg's class at "Protect the Kog". | ||
daemir
Finland8662 Posts
March 07 2012 09:46 GMT
#1682
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 07 2012 09:46 GMT
#1683
Poll: Recommend TSM vs. Curse Yes (19) No (2) 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend TSM vs. Curse Oh yeah, I had a poll going. derp | ||
ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 07 2012 09:46 GMT
#1684
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
March 07 2012 09:46 GMT
#1685
On March 07 2012 18:44 De4ngus wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2012 18:42 wei2coolman wrote: On March 07 2012 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote: On March 07 2012 18:39 emucxg wrote: trm needs to stop playing irelia and xpecial should stop playing sona and imho karthus would be better for regi to deal vs that team comp has nothing to do with any of those picks imo... they gave curse the combo of morg + kog + nunu. Problem was Rainman didn't do his job. Rainman's main job should be killing Kogmaw, but couldn't do it. no, rainman had no way of getting to kog. I said "couldn't", meaning he didn't have the ability to do so. I didn't mean that Rainman did poorly. But tbh Rainman could've knocked top tower really early, when he gained the 40 cs advantage. He should've just bullied the shit out of the pug even harder, and knocked that tower asap. Rather he wanders around map not really accomplishing to much, and getting his tower killed really quickly. | ||
{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
March 07 2012 09:47 GMT
#1686
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Celestial
United States652 Posts
March 07 2012 09:47 GMT
#1687
On March 07 2012 18:43 mr_tolkien wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2012 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote: On March 07 2012 18:39 emucxg wrote: trm needs to stop playing irelia and xpecial should stop playing sona and imho karthus would be better for regi to deal vs that team comp has nothing to do with any of those picks imo... they gave curse the combo of morg + kog + nunu. Morgana not the problem. Orianna is wayyyyyyy better at «protect the kog». Yeah I don't see how that's even possible for Morg to be less effective than Orianna at defending a Kog vs a Gragas/Sona/Maokai team. All those great timed black shields totally nullified any Gragas ult, Orianna would have to salvage scraps from that. | ||
emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
March 07 2012 09:47 GMT
#1688
once i saw TRM fought few times without using his ulti, i knew TSM is lost | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
March 07 2012 09:48 GMT
#1689
On March 07 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2012 17:25 ihasaKAROT wrote: Maybe it is today, but have you seem them practise? Its just all over the place and not coordinated. If they win then good for them , but I dont really see them playing well in this. Cough. Not just him though. A lot of people, like Two_DoWn, thought the same thing. People need to have a better eye on how teams look at their most recent. People don't know about dat Nyjacky. | ||
GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
March 07 2012 09:48 GMT
#1690
On March 07 2012 18:45 NeoIllusions wrote: The sub is a champ. Didn't fall behind but didn't suck either. With a last minute sub, all you really want from him is to not suck, not lose lane, not be dead weight in team fights. And like I said before Nyjacky and Cop are goooooood. I was really impressed with his discipline to not over extend against TRM. There weren't too many wards on the map mid game, because of the double oracle, and Shyvanna sacrificed some cs to be safe. Overall just really smart, safe play. Exactly what you want from an unknown quantity. | ||
LightRailCoyote
United States982 Posts
March 07 2012 09:48 GMT
#1691
On March 07 2012 18:46 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2012 18:44 De4ngus wrote: On March 07 2012 18:42 wei2coolman wrote: On March 07 2012 18:41 UniversalSnip wrote: On March 07 2012 18:39 emucxg wrote: trm needs to stop playing irelia and xpecial should stop playing sona and imho karthus would be better for regi to deal vs that team comp has nothing to do with any of those picks imo... they gave curse the combo of morg + kog + nunu. Problem was Rainman didn't do his job. Rainman's main job should be killing Kogmaw, but couldn't do it. no, rainman had no way of getting to kog. I said "couldn't", meaning he didn't have the ability to do so. I didn't mean that Rainman did poorly. But tbh Rainman could've knocked top tower really early, when he gained the 40 cs advantage. He should've just bullied the shit out of the pug even harder, and knocked that tower asap. Rather he wanders around map not really accomplishing to much, and getting his tower killed really quickly. To be fair, though, I would guess that Rainman moving middle was probably a team call and not him acting on his own initiative. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
March 07 2012 09:48 GMT
#1692
On March 07 2012 18:47 emucxg wrote: TRM cannot play irelia... once i saw TRM fought few times without using his ulti, i knew TSM is lost It wasn't his irelia that was his problem, it was his inability to use his CS advantage in the game. | ||
deskscaress
United States399 Posts
March 07 2012 09:48 GMT
#1693
i really want to say that TRM is the reason they lost that (his teamfighting was pretty atrocious throughout, especially considering he was a kill and 50 cs up on shyvana); but at the same time, reginald's body-slam -> ult nothing combo setting up all those fail teamfights was pretty terrible too. basically i figured the gragas pick was to shut down the kog pick: you save the gragas ult for the nunu ult. nunu will be hugging kog to protect him from irelia, nunu ults when irelia dives -> gragas separates kog and nunu with his own ult, then lands barrel to shut down kog's AS. instead, reginald was trying to catch completely coordinated players out with his ult. this isn't solo queue, TSM needs to stop playing like it is regardless, TOO is so good, stuck with such bads, poor guy. i have also seen a ton of people hype xpecial's play but i was not uber impressed. xpecial + chaox is supposed to be the best bot lane combo right? why are they losing to elementzzzzzz basically just an outstanding game by Curse, and really unimpressive play by all of TSM except for the odd little jungler. | ||
Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
March 07 2012 09:48 GMT
#1694
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Vequeth
United Kingdom1116 Posts
March 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#1695
On March 07 2012 18:46 daemir wrote: I think the sub did a good job at protecting kog there. I'm really happy for Crs, what an upset! Indeed, protecting kog and zoning sivir he did a great job as. I kinda feel that TSM could of ganked top lane a bit more considering he is the weak spot and Irelia was naturally stronger. | ||
Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
March 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#1696
Curse had a great performance run. TheOddOne did very well but the rest of his team was lacklustre. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
March 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#1697
On March 07 2012 18:46 JBright wrote: Poll: Recommend TSM vs. Curse Yes (19) No (2) 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend TSM vs. Curse Oh yeah, I had a poll going. derp For me, this was the most exciting game of IEM Hannover thus far. :3 And I also think Morg > Ori for that team comp. Anti-CC is just too much. | ||
Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
March 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#1698
Whenever Irelia tried to do her job, not only was there a Nunu in place, there was a Morganna ult. If Morganna hit more than one person, they would leave, but Rainman would try to do his duty, more often just ending up in the middle of 5 enemy heros. He'd do damage fine, but without his teammates poking or hitting, KogMaw just healed up within 7 auto attacks. Dunno if that is Rainman going deep unneccisarily, good defense, or TSM not following up. Or if I'm just completely wrong. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
March 07 2012 09:50 GMT
#1699
On March 07 2012 18:49 Vequeth wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2012 18:46 daemir wrote: I think the sub did a good job at protecting kog there. I'm really happy for Crs, what an upset! Indeed, protecting kog and zoning sivir he did a great job as. I kinda feel that TSM could of ganked top lane a bit more considering he is the weak spot and Irelia was naturally stronger. Not to mention, the pug was almost always pushing hte lane (though he wasn't over extended). | ||
Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
March 07 2012 09:50 GMT
#1700
Basically summary of the game from a TSM fanboy lol. That last teamfight was the best one they did all game imo, hope that meant they had their gameplan figured out. edit: Subbed played name was "Plote" don't know if hes on EU west or east but they said he was German. He did ok in lane, was behind in CS all game compared to TRM but he didn't unnecessarily either. Did his job ulting into teamfights and attacking the focus. | ||
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