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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 10 2012 16:17 GMT
#6101
You do not want to pick a weak duel jungler vs M5 unless your mid lane/top/support are all really deadly champs (lb, ali, akali?). They are gonna be in your jungle, they will have a good duelist, they probably will have their support near.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#6102
On March 11 2012 01:17 cascades wrote:
How does m5 train?


Arrive at the tournament ten days ahead of the event. Practice for ten hours a day every day.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#6103
I think a real discussion should be if the move to EU caused TSM's play to suffer.


Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#6104
On March 11 2012 01:17 cascades wrote:
How does m5 train?


they did a CS style bootcamp before this event and before kiev too I think
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 16:18:48
March 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#6105
On March 11 2012 01:17 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 01:16 daemir wrote:
Scarra so right, game 2 was done at champ select, their comp was horrible.


To be fair, M5's pick/ban phase is fucking nuts. It's a large part of their success imo. Not that their lanes are bad, they're amazing. And Diamond might be the best jungler in the world too. But their pick/ban phase makes them really strong.

Alex Ich best captain in the world (By the way also very charismatic and with good interviews imo)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
March 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#6106
On March 11 2012 01:17 cascades wrote:
How does m5 train?


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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
March 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#6107
On March 11 2012 01:17 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 01:16 daemir wrote:
Scarra so right, game 2 was done at champ select, their comp was horrible.


To be fair, M5's pick/ban phase is fucking nuts. It's a large part of their success imo. Not that their lanes are bad, they're amazing. And Diamond might be the best jungler in the world too. But their pick/ban phase makes them really strong.

I think that's the biggest lesson from the finals. In both games, M5 got the exact comp they wanted.

I believe in a Reddit AMA or something, Jatt said the reason Dignitas was (once) dominant was that it dominated picks and bans, and always had a superior team comp to the opponent.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#6108
On March 11 2012 01:17 cascades wrote:
How does m5 train?


scrims 10 hours a day
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
March 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#6109
On March 11 2012 01:18 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 01:17 cascades wrote:
How does m5 train?


Arrive at the tournament ten days ahead of the event. Practice for ten hours a day every day.

Alex Ich also mentioned in one of the interviews that they train certain strategies on mid-tier teams (no idea what he thinks is mid tier though) before actually using them in tournaments.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#6110
Oh the bittersweet irony
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
March 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#6111
I agree with the sentiments that the only teams that can compare to m5 are the 2 clgs and thats because they have counters to m5. Clg.eu hass the 2nd best top who can compete with genja and clg.eu teamplay is amazing and clg.us has the best jungler who is saint. Idk we shall see in the future if anyone can counter the crazy agressivness from m5
Evil Geniuses<3
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#6112
Rivington: So, Scarra what was it like. You got focused hard. Constant jungle pressure.
Scarra: We had a stratgy going in but it didn't work out. We should have warded our red area and that kill from Lee Sin was what really set us back hard. And we knew you could use Urgot in gimmicky strats but we didn't expect that. They really changed things up and out-played us. They definitely deserved this win.
Rivington: You guys played so well here. Undefeated this entire tournament. Where did you feel that you finally had the win over Dignitas?
Alex Ich: We had strategy for first game. They had perfect pick for us to run this strat. Then second game we had psychology. And we pick solid and take it from there. And we can use mental edge for snowball.
Rivington: Did you guys expect Dignitas to be able to respond to your strategies well?
Alex Ich: They couldn't adapt to our style like CLG did. We were much more aggressive taking small objectives. From all the teams. I mean. We had splitpush from CLG. We had team fight from Dignitas. But we have counterjungle from strategy us.
Rivington: So from the picks and bans How did you want to counterpick M5?
Scarra: We knew M5 wanted Lee Sin so we traded him for Shyvana. We had a plan Blue, Wolves, Red, Golems, Bot lane. But then we should have expected the invade when their support was nowhere to be seen. It was a really bad play on our part. And once that happened we didn't know what to do and we fell apart.
Rivington: So how was the whole plan game 2?
Scarra: We should have executed better. We had some idea but we should have adapted better to their strategy. We shouldn't have picked Shyvana and Irelia second game because we didn't know Dar1en played Shen but then they did. We did badly. They outpicked us and out played us so they deserve this win.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
emraaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany505 Posts
March 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#6113
wtf is this a joke?
Sure as the dust that floats high and true, when movin through kashmir
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 16:21:25
March 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#6114
On March 11 2012 01:17 cascades wrote:
How does m5 train?

Damn, couldnt find the clip fast enough T_T
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#6115
LOL voyboy real winner
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
March 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#6116
Awkward award....
Zero fighting.
spacemonkey4eve
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States267 Posts
March 10 2012 16:20 GMT
#6117
host real jerk LOL wanting him to give the shirt to scarra
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 16:20:38
March 10 2012 16:20 GMT
#6118
Voyboy ? the fuck ? He got roflstomped against M5... NA bias is NA bias.
Just like people voting Idra as the best foreigner.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
March 10 2012 16:20 GMT
#6119
this is embarassing
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
March 10 2012 16:20 GMT
#6120
2 slow 2 down
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