• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:59
CET 20:59
KST 04:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)8Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1955 users

[IEM] Season 6 Championship - Page 147

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 145 146 147 148 149 314 Next
At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
March 08 2012 03:41 GMT
#2921
haha yeah my bad, over looked that
Go go Alliance.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 08 2012 03:42 GMT
#2922
On March 08 2012 12:34 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:32 Shikyo wrote:
I can see you guys are underestimating M5 again.

Group B was another Kiev. M5 was the only good team in a group without a competent jungle. You aint gonna counter Saint.

That being said, I actually think that the M5 vs CIJ semi (should it happen) will be, for all intents and purposes, the grand finals.

That's specifically what I mean if you think that counterjungling is somehow their secret winning strategy that their entire gameplay is based around.

Alex Ich is going to outplay Jiji so incredibly hard it's not going to be funny.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#2923
On March 08 2012 12:42 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:34 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 08 2012 12:32 Shikyo wrote:
I can see you guys are underestimating M5 again.

Group B was another Kiev. M5 was the only good team in a group without a competent jungle. You aint gonna counter Saint.

That being said, I actually think that the M5 vs CIJ semi (should it happen) will be, for all intents and purposes, the grand finals.

That's specifically what I mean if you think that counterjungling is somehow their secret winning strategy that their entire gameplay is based around.

Alex Ich is going to outplay Jiji so incredibly hard it's not going to be funny.

The ability for Diamond to play on a level above the enemy jungle is what makes M5 look so dominant. He is not going to be able to do that against Saint.

And the odd thing about jiji is he never gets outplayed badly. Sure he might lose a lane buy a little, but he aint pulling a regi from the SK game. Top lane becomes a wash, Mid I would mark as a wash, Saint gets an edge in jungle and M5 takes the edge bot.

I think we might actually see what happens when M5 is faced with having to straight outplay a team lategame without getting a huge advantage early.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
March 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#2924
I think we might actually see what happens when M5 is faced with having to straight outplay a team lategame without getting a huge advantage early.


oO, did you even watch kings of europe?
Go go Alliance.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 03:54:49
March 08 2012 03:54 GMT
#2925
On March 08 2012 12:47 dooraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think we might actually see what happens when M5 is faced with having to straight outplay a team lategame without getting a huge advantage early.


oO, did you even watch kings of europe?

True, good point. Forgot about those games.

But my thought (which I did a poor job of expressing) was the idea that LI7 is the best late game team in the world. M5 is gonna have to try to face that down, likely without the benefit of a massive early lead.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
March 08 2012 03:58 GMT
#2926
Yeah M5 v LI7 is going to be very interesting to watch. Time to see if the best carry-jungler in the game can shut down M5's tactics.
Go go Alliance.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
March 08 2012 04:14 GMT
#2927
On March 08 2012 12:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:42 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 12:34 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 08 2012 12:32 Shikyo wrote:
I can see you guys are underestimating M5 again.

Group B was another Kiev. M5 was the only good team in a group without a competent jungle. You aint gonna counter Saint.

That being said, I actually think that the M5 vs CIJ semi (should it happen) will be, for all intents and purposes, the grand finals.

That's specifically what I mean if you think that counterjungling is somehow their secret winning strategy that their entire gameplay is based around.

Alex Ich is going to outplay Jiji so incredibly hard it's not going to be funny.

The ability for Diamond to play on a level above the enemy jungle is what makes M5 look so dominant. He is not going to be able to do that against Saint.

And the odd thing about jiji is he never gets outplayed badly. Sure he might lose a lane buy a little, but he aint pulling a regi from the SK game. Top lane becomes a wash, Mid I would mark as a wash, Saint gets an edge in jungle and M5 takes the edge bot.

I think we might actually see what happens when M5 is faced with having to straight outplay a team lategame without getting a huge advantage early.

m5 beat curse starting 1-9
GANDHISAUCE
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 08 2012 04:15 GMT
#2928
Can someone provide me some insight on the aAa vs SK match-up?
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 04:20:30
March 08 2012 04:18 GMT
#2929
On March 08 2012 11:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/hanover/lol/playoffs/rankings/

Quarterfinal brackets are up.

Predictions?

+ Show Spoiler [My Predictions] +

Quarterfinals:
CLG > Crs 2-0
aAa > SK 2-1

Semifinals:
CLG > M5 2-1
Dignitas > aAa 2-0

3rd:
M5 > aAa 2-0

Finals:
CLG > Dignitas 2-1


I like these picks. Not writing M5 off but CLG definitely have the ability to deal with their playstyle, plus as someone else mentioned they have the advantage of CLG.EU probably scouting them pretty hard. CLG will have done their homework.


Also I'm surprised when people talk about TSM's failing this tourney no one has mentioned Chaox's poor performance - he lost / went even in lanes he should have crushed, and got caught out of position constantly. Lots of really uncharacteristic mistakes from him.

Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 08 2012 04:29 GMT
#2930
On March 08 2012 12:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:42 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 12:34 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 08 2012 12:32 Shikyo wrote:
I can see you guys are underestimating M5 again.

Group B was another Kiev. M5 was the only good team in a group without a competent jungle. You aint gonna counter Saint.

That being said, I actually think that the M5 vs CIJ semi (should it happen) will be, for all intents and purposes, the grand finals.

That's specifically what I mean if you think that counterjungling is somehow their secret winning strategy that their entire gameplay is based around.

Alex Ich is going to outplay Jiji so incredibly hard it's not going to be funny.

The ability for Diamond to play on a level above the enemy jungle is what makes M5 look so dominant. He is not going to be able to do that against Saint.

And the odd thing about jiji is he never gets outplayed badly. Sure he might lose a lane buy a little, but he aint pulling a regi from the SK game. Top lane becomes a wash, Mid I would mark as a wash, Saint gets an edge in jungle and M5 takes the edge bot.

I think we might actually see what happens when M5 is faced with having to straight outplay a team lategame without getting a huge advantage early.

Agreed, jiji will NEVER feed, EVER. Look at his stats over the group stages. 16-3-38 overall I don't see anyone on CLG falling apart, if they lose it'll be due to messy teamwork. If m5 tries to play as aggressively as they do on CLG I foresee them getting punished. They get away with too much against a lot of teams, but it seems all the good teams have punished them and taken an early lead. They came back with good teamfighting, but CLG has really good teamfighting as well.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 08 2012 04:29 GMT
#2931
I'm cheering for Dignitas!
Hope they make it far :3
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 04:50:48
March 08 2012 04:42 GMT
#2932
On March 08 2012 10:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
That point aside- timing a buff does not a competent jungle make, nor does the ability to get your team to react to that timer. Those are both the roles of whoever is calling shots- not necessarily the jungle.

TOO just hasnt adapted to the new jungle. He simply cant farm. Its basically the equivalent of trying to play mid while only csing every other wave, and only playing AP sona. You just cant do it.


Pretty much this.

To say that someone is a good jungler because they time buffs is ridiculous.

I'd be utterly shocked if everyone here was uncapable of a) timing a buff b) telling the lane they are ganking in X seconds. It isn't something that requires skill at all. All it requires is pressing the enter button.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
March 08 2012 04:56 GMT
#2933
On March 08 2012 12:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:47 dooraven wrote:
I think we might actually see what happens when M5 is faced with having to straight outplay a team lategame without getting a huge advantage early.


oO, did you even watch kings of europe?

True, good point. Forgot about those games.

But my thought (which I did a poor job of expressing) was the idea that LI7 is the best late game team in the world. M5 is gonna have to try to face that down, likely without the benefit of a massive early lead.

What's LI7?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 08 2012 04:59 GMT
#2934
http://clgaming.net/

New logo for LI7
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
March 08 2012 05:02 GMT
#2935
On March 08 2012 13:56 arnath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 08 2012 12:47 dooraven wrote:
I think we might actually see what happens when M5 is faced with having to straight outplay a team lategame without getting a huge advantage early.


oO, did you even watch kings of europe?

True, good point. Forgot about those games.

But my thought (which I did a poor job of expressing) was the idea that LI7 is the best late game team in the world. M5 is gonna have to try to face that down, likely without the benefit of a massive early lead.

What's LI7?


Took me a while to get it too.


[image loading]
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
March 08 2012 05:38 GMT
#2936
that ashe impression...god i still can't stop laughing

anyone know where i can find that on vod?
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 08 2012 05:59 GMT
#2937
LI7, assuming they get past Crs, because Crs has been such a blind spot for LI7 of late, will give a good match vs M5, but I hope and fear our russian overlords will reign supreme.

Still rooting for Dignitas though, go Scarra!

Oh yea and about tournament trending? Kiev, Sona, Hannover:

Support

Janna 8/42/273 (24) 17-7.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 08 2012 06:53 GMT
#2938
On March 08 2012 12:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:42 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 12:34 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 08 2012 12:32 Shikyo wrote:
I can see you guys are underestimating M5 again.

Group B was another Kiev. M5 was the only good team in a group without a competent jungle. You aint gonna counter Saint.

That being said, I actually think that the M5 vs CIJ semi (should it happen) will be, for all intents and purposes, the grand finals.

That's specifically what I mean if you think that counterjungling is somehow their secret winning strategy that their entire gameplay is based around.

Alex Ich is going to outplay Jiji so incredibly hard it's not going to be funny.

And the odd thing about jiji is he never gets outplayed badly. Sure he might lose a lane buy a little, but he aint pulling a regi from the SK game. Top lane becomes a wash, Mid I would mark as a wash, Saint gets an edge in jungle and M5 takes the edge bot.


Even when jiji was "slumping" it was usually him just dying like once in lane. He isn't a mid who's gonna gank very often (unless he plays TF). He's a teamfight AP carry, it's where he shines. During his slump phase he never was losing lanes hard or anything he just didn't have map presence (which he's gotten better on now imo) and he would fuck up some in team fights which was weird because that's actually his strongest point imo.

But yeah, he's just about the only AP carry who consistently gets farmed in lane no matter what.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 08 2012 06:55 GMT
#2939
omg, stop calling CLG, L17, it's annoying >.<
liftlift > tsm
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
March 08 2012 06:55 GMT
#2940
clg > curse 2-0
aaa > sk 2-1

m5 1-2 clg
dignitas 2-1 aaa

dignitas 2-1 clg finals

hope for a lot of 2-1 close nail biting games :3
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Prev 1 145 146 147 148 149 314 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
16:55
FSL s9 Code A & S Championship
Freeedom39
Liquipedia
Big Gabe XPERIONCRAFT
13:00
#3
RotterdaM3131
IndyStarCraft 324
mouzHeroMarine281
Belair 72
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 3131
IndyStarCraft 324
mouzHeroMarine 281
BRAT_OK 119
PiGStarcraft105
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 522
Dewaltoss 145
Larva 99
Rock 44
GoRush 9
Dota 2
Gorgc4977
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m13229
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King51
hungrybox43
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu446
Other Games
Grubby4620
summit1g4267
FrodaN3748
Beastyqt617
Mlord532
B2W.Neo184
ArmadaUGS134
XaKoH 113
QueenE84
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick60259
EGCTV819
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 722
Other Games
BasetradeTV40
StarCraft 2
angryscii 21
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach71
• 80smullet 19
• FirePhoenix10
• Pr0nogo 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3047
Other Games
• imaqtpie2332
• Shiphtur251
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
1m
Laughngamez YouTube
WardiTV Invitational
17h 1m
ByuN vs Percival
Percival vs Rogue
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
Classic vs Rogue
IPSL
1d
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 21h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
All Star Teams
6 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W3
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Big Gabe Cup #3
Underdog Cup #3
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.